Neil Gaiman or Alan Moore

Neil Gaiman or Alan Moore

Which is superior?

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The one that signs contracts without bitching about it later

The one that finishes the comics he starts writing

>I put on my robe and wizard hat

the one that shakes hands like a man, jesus how awkward

Alan Moore by far.

Frank miller

I may be the only one in the world who thinks this, but Neil Gaiman is incredibly overrated.

The one that isn't a nonce

Frank Miller is far less consistent quality wise than Moore and Gaiman

Moore's writing isn't YA tier.

Superior how?

Writing? Gaiman's pretty wordy as well, but his scripts are far less pretentious, and he'll get a lot more out of the artist. Plus, less people complaining about stuff being stolen, less cringy "little girl in fantasy books" porn, and much easier to digest by casual readers.

Personality and marketability? Coraline and American Gods are far more memorable than Watchmen in film and television among non-readers, and his novels and short stories are far more memorable than any non-comic book Moore's done. Even if you haven't read his work, you can still appreciate the man after his speech going viral, and his relationship with Palmer opens up for a way wider slew of fans that otherwise may not read comics. It's also hard to find something bad to say about the man career-wise other than maybe that Spawn thing. Moore is renowned for pissing off people in multiple industries, though.

Looks? "Broody artist" always has a plave in culture, "not sure if wizard or hobo with a cult" is a bit more limited.

Moore could probably take him in a fist fight, though.

You're not the only one. I've been re-reading Sandman and it's 20% good storytelling and 80% Gaiman sucking his own dick about being a good storyteller. Even when it's good it's still not profound.

Neil.... by a large fucking margin because although he's eccentric as fuck, he's no Alan Moore whackadoo space wizard...

He still actually has a career that isn't based on decades old reverence and now, obscurity

Who is the superior wizard, Moore or Morrison?

Why is Neil with a Jojo character?

Even his books aren't that great. I read American Gods, which was supposed to be this amazing book, and I left feeling somewhat lukewarm over it. I will admit, he did good work with Pratchett on Good Omens, but I'm going to assume Pratchett did most of the work on that one as the style seems closer to his usual stuff.

Gaiman's far and away the better person, and the fact he hasn't said anything retarded in interviews or social media despite how often he does both is incredible.

Gaiman's obviously superior as he was able to capture Moore, who must now share his gold with him.

Morrison's actually tried doing something with it rather than just being one, and the cast of LoEG is still doing wonderfully, so he's got my vote.

Gaiman

kek

Grant Morrison.

Plebs will disagree.

Otto Binder

>and he'll get a lot more out of the artist
That's just bullshit, Moore makes a great use of his artist.

Implying anything Gaiman did is more memorable than this:

>The political climate of Britain in the early 1980s also influenced the work,[7] with Moore positing that Margaret Thatcher's Conservative government would "obviously lose the 1983 elections", and that an incoming Michael Foot-led Labour government, committed to complete nuclear disarmament, would allow the United Kingdom to escape relatively unscathed after a limited nuclear war

Moore is a fucking retard lmao

There's a reason they called Labour's 1983 manifesto "the longest suicide note in history"

>Gaiman is a better writer because he's nice :DDD
Holy shit fag

No one remembers the book, barely any the movie. Only the mask survived, and the people who use it are almost all tools

>probably
Can Neil even make a fist?

Isn't Alan Moore a pedo?

You've never heard about the author of Alice in Wonderland, have you?

>No one remembers the book
bullshit
>barely any the movie
bigger bullshit
>Only the mask survived
And people always use for the same reasons, because they remember the meaning so they remember the story

Alaan Moore works are simply far more iconic and is not even funny.

Seriously, if Guy Fawkes was American we'd probably celebrate the 5th of November for the exact opposite reason the Brits do. We love a good old rebel in the US

Than Anonymous?
Never forget never forgive lol.

Seriously though, V for Vendetta doesn't really gain too much attention outside of the edgy teen and shut-in community. Coraline is cute, has a Nightmare Before Christmas and Kubo feel to it with it's animation, and appeals to kids, while American Gods has Ian McShane, a hot lead actor, Gillian Anderson playing everyone, Pornstache, The 7up guy as Anansi, and Crispin Glover being at his most creepy. Hell, it even has a gay sex scene and Dane Cook if we're talking about shit to get angry about.

Personal opinion on which you personally prefer aside, V doesn't hold a candle in terns of lasting in people's minds.

He could tag in his wife. I'd honestly put my money on her over Moore.

gaiman is a qt3.14

You're heavily overestimating how much people give a shit about the backstory to the mask, let alone Anonymous itself.

Moore because I'd take an occultist over a Scientologist any day.

Are you seriously trying to imply that more people know about american gods than V of Vendetta?After decades and we still got a lot of references about it, almost all adult cartoons made a reference about moore works, avatar made an entire season based in that story.

I'm sorry you never learned how to read.

As a writer?
I'd say Gaiman. Plot and characters' quality isn't far off Moore, but he has more range in the subjects he writes about and is more consistent in the quality output.

As a person?
Gaiman is a SJW and Moore is an actual, literal cuckold.
So Mike Mignola.

So neither? Gaiman will go on about how shit 2000AD was to work for and how if the company had given anything back to the talent they wouldn't have all left for DC in the 80's

>Personal opinion on which you personally prefer aside, V doesn't hold a candle in terns of lasting in people's minds.
Your argument consist entirety on personal opinions.

Also V for Vendetta is in imdb top 250, and has 851,607, Coraline doesn't even rank in imdb top and has 157,716 votes.

No, he gives instructions. He details every single description, not allowing the actual artist to give any range of his own. It's limiting, because you only have one perspective. All you're seeing is Moore's vision, and that doesn't always translate well en masse.

And dont forget about that thing with Mcfarlane.

>Moore is a cuckold

Seriously? Doesn't surprise me

The question isn't who the more marketable writer is. It's which writer is superior.

Harry Potter is a multi-billion dollar media empire but I wouldn't call Rowling a "superior" author.

>Harry Potter is a multi-billion dollar media empire but I wouldn't call Rowling a "superior" author.

you bitch you typed that just to invite the pasta

How do you. Know this is how Moore works?

I gave you a shitload of examples of why they would draw wider appeal, and you gave me an imdb count.
You're starting to sound like that dude with the Gwenpool hateboner.

>not allowing the actual artist to give any range of his own.
BULLSHIT

> He would write the script almost like a letter to the artist, he’d talk about his life and what he’d read of your stuff, what he liked about the last story you’d done, and then he’d say: “Now I’m going to be absurdly obsessive about detail here, but draw whatever you want. I just tend to run off at the mouth. It’s really up to you what this story’s, going to look like.”
Rick Veitch
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I prefer people who are blatantly creepy to charismatic rapists.

really? huh.

"In what way? Here's a few different varieties of what you could mean."

"Marketable alone doesn't mean superior!"

Why do I bother?

>he'll get a lot more out of the artist
What the hell are you talking about? Moore really knows how to push the artists he works with into putting their best into the comic, and always makes sure the art is as vital to the story as the script. I can't think of any major Moore comic that could be drawn by anyone else but whoever did it. And most of them never did something as good as whatever they did with Moore either.
If there's something Moore can do better than most comic book writers is involving the artist in the creative process and getting a lot from them.

Former scientologist. He was born into the religion, and left during his young adult years.

Not even that guy but Gwenpool is a super shitty character and you know it.

Have you seen his scripts? His Killing Joke script alone is a nightmare to a lot of student comic artists. Portfolio reviewers hate them as well because no matter who draws it it's basically gonna be the same page. It's the narrative art equivalent of filling out a tax form.

You don't know what you're talking about. Read both Moore's and Campbell's notes about From Hell to see how much Moore encourages the artist to do his own research and asks for input on the work.

>Not even that guy
Sure

I haven't read her, so I don't have an opinion. This guy is more some sperglord who just goes into a tantrum every time no matter the argument.

You argument was that V for Vendetta didn't gain as much attention as Coraline, which is objectively false. The rest were just a bunch of subjective opinions that were completely irrelevant when discussing the impact that a movie had in people.

You really have no idea about what you're talking about. He writes those incredibly detail scripts but then he engages in a back and forth with the artist about how the final page is gonna look like, and he demands a lot from them. Just read any interviews with any artists that have worked with him and they all talk about the very prolongued phone talks and letter exchanges that took place while working with Moore.

Exactly, hell the famous 9 panel grid from Watchmen was all Dave Gibbons' idea

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I want you to name one freelance artist who's publicly badmouthed the writer he's worked with and continued to have a career. Don't get me wrong, some people might enjoy all the details. Less creative work and layouts mean less time consumed, but that's usually not the case.

>only one person hates that shitty comic that marvel keep pushing on everyone
Ponifag logic,I'm not going to derail the thread anymore so you can defend your shitty waifu.

>That guy doesn't agree with me in arguemtn about comic book adaptation so he must a gwenpool hater
Are you legitimately retarded?

>Less creative work and layouts mean less time consumed
> Less creative
> Draw whatever you want
Just admit you're talking out of your ass

Gaiman has great ideas but his writing is frequently so overblown and in need of a merciless editor. Only half of the original Sandman is any good, it could have been so much fucking shorter.

It's worse with his prose. I'm re-reading American Gods because of the show and it's a goddamn chore to get through and there's like a major climax after the real one. Why, Gaiman? Oh, right, to set up the two dogshit novellas you pumped out later that diminish the original story and absolutely no one except thirteen-year-old emos asked for. Moore is a pain in the dick and constantly biting the hands that feed him, and has a weird obsession with rape, but at least he knows what to leave out of a book and how to pace a damn story.

That being said, I'd probably rather have a beer with Gaiman than Moore. I'd rather pretend to give a shit about eyeliner and his wife's shitty new music than hear about how I'm not reading Moore's comics the right way and maybe get murdered on my way to the bathroom.

Ignore your hateboner for Moore for a second and read the facts. Not even the artists that are in bad terms with Moore talk shit about the creative process they had in the comics they made with him. Even Moore himself always aknowledges the imput artists had in the comics he wrote.

I read Anansi Boys before American Gods and I liked it a lot more. I think his short stories are a lot better than his actual novels (aside from Good Omens but like you said that's a special case). The best part of American Gods are the little anecdotes and scenes, not the narrative itself.

Moore actually seems to be a pretty chill and funny guy in the videos you can see him talking about other stuff and interacting with people.

*...in the videos where you can see him...

Ins't moore always nice with fans in person? I feel like people think he's like his simpsons parody.

>Oh, right, to set up the two dogshit novellas you pumped out later that diminish the original story and absolutely no one except thirteen-year-old emos asked for.
There was a second one? I actually kind of liked the first. It had a sweet tone.

All the videos I've seen of him, show him being very nice, self aware and having a good sense of humor.

Everyone should probably see this btw youtube.com/watch?v=mKgblaifX1s

>he voiced himself
heh, I wonder if he's a little lulu fan or if just some random joke.

It's funny because Alan Moore is explaining the joke. Genius. youtube.com/watch?v=cl_fux5U-VY

He was a baby when he worked at 2000AD. And McFarlane IS a prick, he calls himself an asshole all the time.

That being siad this is a difficult choice. I think Gaiman has the volume, but Moore has more specific individual works I like more.

There was a Supreme issue where Moore's script was drawn by two separate artists and both were different. Stop talking out of your ass.