Pitch me your takes on what an Ultimate DCU would be like
Rules:
>You must include DC characters in your pitch
>Your character must in some way correlate to their mainline counterpart although are open to reinterpretation
>Your idea must exist in the same continuum as every other post's
Earth-1.
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kys OP
>No fun allowed
>Ultimate Batman: The Worlds Ultimate Detective
>Playboy billionaire Bruce Wayne is the head of the worlds leading technology company, specializing in military tech
>Meanwhile, his two adopted sons, Dick Grayson and Tim Drake don the identities of Nightwing and Batman respectively to avenge they're adoptive mother, Selina Kyle, and adopted brother, Jason Todd, using technology provided by they're father
>Nightwing operates in Bludhaven like normal
>Batman stories are more detective oriented, rather than action oriented
>His arch-nemesis is The Penguin, not The Joker, and in this universe, The Joker doesn't exist quite yet
>Doctor Harleen Quinzel is a valuable ally, which makes her eventual downfall even more tragic
>The stories focus less on super-villainy and more on organized crime and Noire elements
>When Jason Todd inevitably is revived during the first event, he becomes the Red Hood and does the whole "Wanna be Punisher" thing
>But his identity is only revealed to the readers, and in a heated battle with an enraged Nightwing, he is knocked into a vat of ACE chemicals, transforming him into The Joker, now a man who plays super-villainy for fun, as he's cheated death twice, and now believes the world is his playground
The joker's brain is actually spread across his entire body and he can regenerate and he uses greasepaint to numb his super brain skin.
My direction would be "younger, edgier, less continuity", similar to the New 52 or the Earth One line, and of course just like the Ultimate line. Goal is to appeal to muh realism fags, but in a good way. None of the mistakes of the Ultimate universe making things too tied together and getting really retarded. Tonally it's something between mainline DC and Wildstorm-- characters are a bit edgier but still heroic.
For Superman I'd do something like Morrison's Action Comics. Have Superman depowered to Golden Age levels, make him focused on fighting street crooks and white-collar crime and corruption.
For Wonder Woman I'd make it kind of like Azzarello's Wonder Woman. The Amazons are subjects of Athena instead of Aphrodite. Like Azzarello's Amazons they're more focused on battle, but more like the Wildstorm Kherubim in that they have powerful technology. Also very isolationist. She still prefers to resolve things diplomatically if possible, but is prepared to resolve things by force.
For Batman I honestly couldn't do much better than Johns' Earth One, really love that series. Only change would be that Batman is fine with letting his enemies die of their own doing like he was in the Golden Age.
>>Doctor Harleen Quinzel is a valuable ally, which makes her eventual downfall even more tragic
If we are subverting everything this part could be that instead of falling for The Joker, like every stories does, this time Harleen Quinzel fell for Poison Ivy, but here's the kicker, Ivy didn't play with Harleen mind like Joker did but Ivy instead played with her heart and emotions and made her fall Madly in Love
For Aquaman I'd bring back the very Atlantis-focused, more regal and edgy version PAD wrote.
Green Lantern would pretty much just be rainbow corps shit. I'm not a fan of it but it's simple and it sells.
I don't think I'd really change Flash much, I imagine his adventures would sometimes involve team-ups with the Earth-0 Flash and Earth-2 Jay Garrick. I guess I'd just make him more like Wally in his later years.
Martian Manhunter would straight up just be an alien living in Denver trying to learn to be human while solving crimes and mysteries.
>Green Lanterns
>Hal Jordan is a reckless former Air Force pilot whose recklessness has caused him to cut contacts with his family, get fired from his job and breakup with his long term girlfriend. To escape his life which has been a downward spiral, he joins the green lantern corps, which is a volunteer force now(though the ring still chooses you) and has various departments.
>It will be a military Sci fi book where GLs are sent to maintain peace in war zones and certain Covert operations.
>Sinestro is the captain of Hal's battalion. He's a hard line authoritarian with some fascist views. He's been using his influence to smuggle stuff to fund his political takeover back on Korugar.
>Guy and Jon are introduced later. Jon is a technician and later joins the special forces.
Ultimate Wonder Woman
Ambassador Diana Prince
WW 2 pilot Steve Trevor crashes into Paradise Island, and instead of sending a single person, Queen Hippolyta summons her entire army and invades and overthrows Mussolini's Italy.
After the Amazons aid the Allies and the Justice Society and reach Germany before the Red Army, Hippolyta renames Italy New Themyscira and declares it the new home of the Immortal Amazons, that they rule over.
Her daughter Diana is named ambassador to the U.N. marries Steve has two daughters named Cassie and Donna.
The story picks up in Modern times Steve is dead her Demi-Amazon daughters are grown and and Diana looks for a new purpose in the world.
Shit that's good. Disregard the retarded Joker part with Jason Todd, let's just go with this instead
>Billy, Mary and Freddy are street orphans
>Sivana is a drug dealer who kidnaps Mary to sell her into child prostitution.
>Billy and Freddy take the help of another drug dealer who calls himself the wizard.
>He has a new drug which he calls Shazam. In his words, it affects you like you've been hit with thunder and makes you feel like a God.
Really?. I was just putting my ship into your story (sorry for that). You could still do the Joker part, since it doesn't interfere with that unless your Joker idea was tied with Harleen. The only thing that changed is that Harleen obsession is now for Ivy instead of Joker
>Ultimate Booster Gold
>It's just Booster Gold, because Booster Gold already is ultimate
>Ultimate DCU
Joker cuts off the mayor's cock and staples it to his forehead, then bombs a post office. John Constantine is just a trenchcoat wearing Magic: The Gathering player who appears for 4 panels and then gets stabbed in the heart by Deadshot. Barbara Gordon was a disabled person all along and never able to become Batgirl, and it is because of her disability that she is unable to defend herself when she is raped by Hal Jordan.
I agree, I actually really liked the Joker part, for an "ultimate" universe at least
>After the Amazons aid the Allies and the Justice Society and reach Germany before the Red Army, Hippolyta renames Italy New Themyscira and declares it the new home of the Immortal Amazons, that they rule over.
What about all the Italians, though.
imagine, an entire country of concubines. and not just the men, but the women, and children too
>Lex luthor is more of a Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates kinda guy.
>Secretly takes down both heroes and villains because he believes they are both too dangerous
And... won't the rest of the world have any sort of a problem with that?
>implying people wouldn't want to join in
Came to post N52, but this is better
>Queen Bee secretly sponsors terrorism against the west
>Pulls some COD level stuff against the Americans
>Green Arrow and Speedy turn into Price and Soap
>Speedy dies
>Queen Bee is fought at the top of a hotel
>Gets hung Makarov style
>Ultimate Warrior
Guy Gardner is caught in an industrial accident that awakens his Vuldarian DNA and then goes on to become a superhero before joining the Green Lantern Corp
this was an excuse to have a comic called Ultimate Warrior
This should have been it and would have been it had they not decided to fuck it up.
What
That was a revamped JSA, not Ultimate DC.
Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman die in the opening sequence.
Killing Hitler buys you a lot of leeway
But it was SO GOOOOOD
>>Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman die in the opening sequence
That's the idea, forking the DC universe in order to take it in a completely different direction, letting the other characters have a chance to shine. Instead they just just introduced Old Man Batman, Evil Supes #129 and sent it all spiraling down to mediocre hell.
I know it was, but it doesn't have anything to do with the idea of the Ultimate universe, which is redoing the entire universe from the ground up with the same classic characters.
I mean if we're going with Ultimate Marvel standards-
Superman-raised in Area 51 after the government ceased his space capsule, Secret Agent designated KL-EL is a superpowered soldier used to intervene as a free agent in intetnational grounds, so the Us doesn't have to.
Batman-Bipolar self-made upper-class vigilante who brutally beats urban muggers after his parents were shot by them. Has a younger gay lover named Robin, who also has AIDs
The Flash-Teenage high schooler with superspeed obtained trying to get high off experimental chemicals
Wonder Woman-Feminazi from a technologically advanced race made up of women that's made it her duty to destroy the patriarchies of the world. Has sextape with John Stewart.
Green Lanterns-AI rings that possess hosts to creat an intergalactic fascist force.
Aquaman-Scrawny kid who grew up in a lighthouse with an abusive, rapist dad. Runs away on a boat only to have it sink in a storm and finds himself among an ancient alien race called Atlanteans that worship him as a god. Commands their armies and technology to do his bidding.
Martian Manhunter-Cannibalistic alien who hunts criminals so that no one will have an issue with his appetite.
10/10
I really like this two takes. It makes for a interest twist on Batman mythos. I'd read it
Same guy, but on a more serious note, if they did an "Ultimate" DC I would hope they'd go with, like an amped up version of DC rather than an amped up version of Marvel.
Marvel's magic is more "super advanced technology" while DC's is more "concepts brought to life". Marvel's more current events while DC's more legends and tales. Obviously that's not always true, but in general it's how the two worlds tend to work.
In a lot of ways it'd probably feel like a Vertigo version of the JLA with an almost mythological feel to it.
Alright, I'm gonna do... Orion.
O'Ryan Masters is a high-ranking engineer who's working at Cadmus, who starts getting "dark" thoughts. His productivity falls, he can't concentrate, he starts getting into more and more hardcore porn, he neglects his work, all that. Also, he thinks somebody, or something, is watching him. He can't sleep, and when he does, he has nightmares about something called "Darkseid".
One day, he snaps. He raids his lab, and takes all the stolen equipment to his place in the mountains. And then... he blacks out. When he wakes up, he finds himself naked, in a room full of scribbles. Some of it is in some unknown language, some notes are in English, and some sort of "formulas" are in Ancient Greek. He looks around, terrified, only to see a shadowy shape. He stares at it. It stares at him. And then... it lunges.
The world spins. He's now alternating between an extremely bright series of colors, a dark and depressing place and the room. He hears whispers, and sees more shapes. He screams. Eventually... it stops.
He's back at the room. Only he has an Omega Symbol at his back. He slowly rises. He looks catatonic, and his body is full of snapped bones, and looks like a puddle. Suddenly, his muscles start rejunovating, and his bones snap into place. In the end, he rises, looking like a demigod. His eyes are glowing. He's now 2,10 meters tall. His cock is 10" flaccid. A few words come out of his mouth. Not something we'd understand.
He walks towards a closed case. Noises are heard. A buzzing noise, coupled with banging. The case opens. The noise gets louder. He enters inside, as CADMUS breaks in. They look at the mess, and notice the case, which has started to slowly crack open. In the end, it explodes, killing everyone.
O'Ryan, now Orion, in full get-up, steps forward. Before him stand Highfather & Darkseid, albeit distorted. They stare at each other, before he steps out.
So, uh, that's it. It's basically Ult!Thor but edgier.
Bump
Ultimate Gotham.
No metahumans allowed, by order of mayor Cobblepot. Bad for business, keeps talking about building a wall to keep these 'metas' out. Any business that dislikes metahumans has an incentive to move to Gotham, so thier is lots of money in Gotham, but because of no metahumans any wannabe crime boss moves to Gotham to avoid people like Superman and the Flash, increasing the corruption in Gotham.
This led to Batman being needed.
The first major crossover event deals with the characters targeted for elimination by a global conspiracy. The emergance of Superman and the increasing number of Super-people is considered a threat to their dominance. As the heroes come increasingly under fire they form a team, aiming to bring it down.
As the event goes on its revealed the conspiracy are the enemies of the JSA who united and formed the Society of Supervillians, wiping the JSA from the memory of the populace, then enjoying a life at the top of the food chain. All this is expositioned to Batman in the decrepit Hall of Justice by a remorseful Shade, while the new JL fight the SoS, who are weaker with age but incredibly numerous.
After their victory the JL notice a number of artifacts have vanished from the vaults, which leads on to the 'second wave' of characters. For instance we see Dinah Lance receiving a package containing belongings of the original Black Canary, An elderly Dr Morrow constructing Red Tornado and Alan Scott's ring finding Guy Gardener. The fate of the original JSA is kept ambiguous, as for an 'Ultimate' style re-imagining WW2 heroes still being up to a fight wouldnt really work. Their influence remains a Planetary style 'secret history of the world'.
>keeps talking about building a wall to keep these 'metas' out.
It was cringy in Catwoman Election Night, it's cringy here. You can make Trump metaphors, but do they really have to be so obvious?
this is REALLY good
do flash and superman please
i like it
Haha, no.
>Ted Kord is there too, please.
Batman
>orphaned when his parents were killed by corrupt policeman Gordon
>raises Barbera as his Robin after dropping Gordon off a roof to his death
>Alfred is no longer a butler, but his older gay lover that took him in as a youth
Superman
>while kept hidden by the Kents he was actually raised by the computer in his escape pod
>isolated and awkward he struggles to understand a humanity that fears him
>Lex Luthor is actually the good guy between them
Wonder Woman
>Diana Prince is a porn star who specializes in dominatrix scenes
>no longer an amazon she turns into an empowered version of herself whenever she wields the lasso of truth
Green Lantern
>a villain sent to enforce universal order on Earth who eventually switches sides to protect it from the fascist Guardians
The Flash
>caused all of this
>is actually Eobard Thawne, having damaged the timeline too much and forced to replace Barry Allen
Gorilla Grodd eats people
Read the--
Beat me to it.
>O'Ryan Masters is a high-ranking engineer who's working at Cadmus, who starts getting "dark" thoughts. His productivity falls, he can't concentrate, he starts getting into more and more hardcore porn
Stopped reading there. Did you just time travel from the 90s you edgy fuck?
The Legion of Superheroes are now more like the Monster Squad.
Fuck off, Rooney.
Batman's origin should be the same as the Telltale's version. But make Batman a gray type of hero while Bruce Wayne is more of a left-wing activist and makes money by investing on new tech and research aswell as businesses. Also uses crypto-currencies.
Batman has a more militaristic tech and would use harsher methods to tackle crime and corruption while taking technology from villains to use, but Bruce Wayne is a nice guy and takes a more activist role in helping the community while using technologies from villains and re-engineer them for civilian use in the city
Using both his identities to tackle crime and corrupt officials and corporate people
He doesn't rely on the cops, but is still in touch with Gordon, and would use other methods to solve stuff
Bruce Wayne's hair is strawberry creme blond instead of black
He wears this costume, but replace the yellow with red
There is no Two- Face or Harley Quinn as he manages to redeem them both and they are in a relationship. However, there are new villains being brought into the fight like Barbara Gordon
Qadir Ali is a cybernetics expert and joins Bruce in his Batman adventures along with Alfred and Lucius. Improving Batman's gadgets and his drones
His love interest is Zatanna
Make Mister Miracle (Shilo Norman) the new seventh member of the league. That way you have someone who isn't white and someone who can tie into the Fourth World
DESU having Mister Miracle (I don't know much about Shilo, I'm thinking Scott) be the 7th member of the league is a pretty solid choice. Definitely better than making Cyborg a walking Mother Box.
>Eobard Thawne is a dickhead speedster from the future who's plans are always thrawted by the Super Heroine known as the Flash
>Eobard decides to go back in time and kill her before she ever gets her powers, leaving him free to rule the speed force
>Unfortunately for him, in an effort to correct itself, the speed force alters the time line so that her son, Barry Allen, is the one who becomes the Flash.
>Now Barry Allen must stop the Sinister Speedster Thawne and save the timeline, and if he's lucky, his mother.
...You do know we're making Edgy DC Redesigns, right? It's in the title...
Okay, I laughed. Better Constantine than not-Vertigo Constantine!
>Green Lantern
>a villain sent to enforce universal order on Earth who eventually switches sides to protect it from the fascist Guardians
But that's normal Green Lantern.