Was she a Mary Sue?

Was she a Mary Sue?

More like a Mommy Sue

Valkyrie was for sure.

Beat me to it

Well since we are told she is very old and has been fighting for along time it is acceptable for her to show up skilled, if she was someone who had never trained before and was instantly adept then you could male a case

Hair Hela >>> Helmet Hela

Is this a motherfucking Star Trek reference?

Can villains even be Mary Sues?
Seems to directly contradict the meaning of it

this, the nig was

no, she's old, ugly and no one liked her.

fucking mommy hive mind

More women should wear horns. It's sexy.

She was a literal goddess of death who was at the creation of the world.

She can be allowed to be a bit overpowered.

they just need to wear more black and make you kneel before them more

With that bodysuit of her's I don't really care.

>grabs her bewbs on the last frame
Foxy bastard

FPBP

Nope, just another boring Marvel villain whose plot is "rule or destroy the thing". Shame because Cate is hot as fuck in the movie, but Jeff Goldblum was so much better and should have been the main villain.

Yeah she was one of the most forgettable MCU villains so far.
Despite being the Goddess of Death she really did very little, her entire superpower was throwing knives at people and it felt like every single line of dialogue she had started with her reminding the audience who she was.
Splitting the movie in half between the gladiator and Hela plots was also a bad call

Me on the right

m-mommy is really tall

They should have just gone all in on Planet Hulk. The Asgard stuff felt like it was on auto-pilot, while Taika and the whole crew were having a blast with Jeff Goldblum's planet.

Bad guys can't be mary sue, they are supposed to be perfect so the victory of the good guys is more satisfying

>CGI shitfest

lol WTF is this bullshit? It looks like a screenshot of some Myst game.

>that subtle camel toe when her thighs part
>that ass

definitely

based

>Was she a Mary Sue?

I guess we've reached the point where words have lost all meaning?

That's one sexy outfit

Why does Thor team up with a drunk slaver, mass murderer and green monster who kills for sport if he's supposed to be a hero?

>nobody likes her
>skilset appropriate for the goddes of death
>the main antagonist

Why didn't they just make a Planet Hulk movie? Normies made this movie make so much bank because Hulk is in it, they don't give a hoot about Assgard.

No, she isn't.

Good villains are defined by their strength.
Good heroes are defined by their weaknesses.

Mary Sues are heroes who are defined by their strengths.

what was her super power anyways? stabbing people?

>skilset appropriate for the goddes of death
Throwing knives?

Throwing knives, they could have given the resurrection power to her but for some reason they had some artifact do that instead.
Would have made her actually threatening

Goldblum was cringe tier awful

Why do you find throwing knives a weak superpower? You can build a shield out of knives, you can build a house out of them. Very useful.

god i wish that was me

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the camrip actually looked better than the webdl

some scenes look worse than youtube fan vids, just awful digital cinematography

Where are you watching this one

The queen of boners

thats the trailer, but a high quality 4gb rip is already out

She was more interesting than that. She had an imperialistic vision of Asgard that shines light on the darker side of Odin's past, and by extension Asgard's past. She didn't just want to kill everyone or rule the universe. She wanted Asgard to be powerful.

this

I nearly drifted off to sleep reading that. No one gives a flying fuck about Asgard, its history, or its politics. RLM is right, just make Planet Hulk.

that is pretty boring, specially since the movie treats her as wrong (as well as Odin's past). A lady who denounces asgard's viking ways and keeps neutering its defenses and degenerating it through good intentions would be far funnier

every time it becomes about people fighting her it's boring

then Thor and Hulk are the biggest mary sues

Thor is a man bimbo who cant do shit and doesnt believe in himself without his hammer

The hulk is a sissy in danger of becoming a dumb rage monster forever

Very original opinions you got there, individuals.

fuck off mouse cuck

nu wars sucks and rey is a mary sue, nothing will change that

i bet they are the same people who militantly hate the prequels

Mike Stoklasa says something funny and to his mindless autist followers it's a holy commandment they must defend to death

Hulk's distribution rights are currently being held by Universal and in order to make another solo Hulk movie they'd have to work out some kind of deal with them. Since every single Hulk movie that was made recently underperformed and had a mixed response Marvel isn't willing to go through the trouble of working out said deal.

Feel free to keep mindlessly parroting RLM's opinions, though.

No, because she wasn't flawless. She was prideful and short sighted.

One thing the movie did right that broke away from the Marvel formula was that the heroes actually didn't beat her - they didn't come up with some last minute trick, or invoke the power of friendship. She was kicking their ass until they summoned the one guy who was actually stronger. Pretty good move on the writers part, I have to admit. Ragnarok could have actually been kino if it wasn't stuck with doing the same tired Marvel shit we've been seeing for years.

No. She fucks up a lot. She thinks she has control of asgard and loses a damn sword? She failed to kill either of her siblings. She also loses to a fire type.

Wtf are you on about? In what way is Hela even interesting?

Even Loki was better, "I'm a mutt and I will overcompensate by committing genocide for my father"

This, imagine if everyone she kills she can bring back. Or at least fucking bothered using that flame to bring back the guys she and the other undead killed.

But NOOOOOO! Marvel is a pussy

How would one get a job involved with outfits worn by actors? Like imagine being the guy who puts this in a storage unit or whatever and you have free reign to sniff her pusy and foot sweat.

You'd have to work in props and costume department

Mary Sues are alcoholics?

I hope you're not the guys who are also calling her a mary sue. Because giving a character who you perceive as being a mary sue the power of resurrecting random people at will doesn't exactly contribute to dispelling that notion

only because Ragnarok is a comedy. Besides that, those characters aren't defined by much more than their strength.

>Just being powerful is now considered being a Mary Sue.
>Doesn't matter if the character is a villain, which by definition can't be Mary Sues.

I'm not, that was my first post itt.

But her power really didn't fit for a Goddess of Death just because she can make weapons to kill people

She did have an undead army though

Being able to make anything out of knives is a pretty neat power.

She isn't the protagonist, therefore not eligible for the title. And a Villain Sue/Stu is someone who can always asspull themselves out of defeat. Doctor Doom would be a close to a glorious Villain Stu with his Doombots taking the fall for his most retarded anticd, but he actually was defeated, dethroned, exiled, sent to Hell, partially lobotomized, tricked out of godhood... in person.

Galadriel is looking pretty good for what, a girl in her 50s now? That crown is fucking godawful though.

>high-functional alcoholic without any actual negative consequences

She falls off her ship seconds after being introduced.

You didn't even watch the film.

That came to life from someone else's magic and that she never replenished with the newly dead

It's a very common opinion because just about every can agree that the Planet Hulk half of the movie was vastly superior to the Asgard half.

most superheroes are mary sues, be it superman or Thor, it's really their purpose.

Maybe that's why people like Batman and Spiderman so much, they're actually flawed human beings with very human problems and limitations.

Marvel literally cannot make a solo Hulk movie atm so saying they should've made the entire thing Planet Hulk is pointless.

and immediately then slaughters all bad guys with no hassle

...you do realize hulk and thor are owned by disney right? How does shitting on them somehow mean you are defending disney wars you fucking brainless faggot.

>Planet Hulk half of the movie
More like an eighth. Have you actually read Planet Hulk, or you thinking about the animated version? Because Planet Hulk was crap.

superman was designed to be a gary stu. And the fact that most people only knows the term mary sue is quite disturbing.

>superheroes do cool things!
Whoa....

t. brainless faggot disneycuck shill jew

Pic unrelated. His knives are good because they have incredible magic hax.

Meh, just a severely nerfed metal bending skill.

>Planet Hulk
Is that any good?

Yeah. It's pulp as fuck, exactly like a comic book should be.

the movie would have been better if it explained that her and Surtur would be locked in battle for the rest of time. And I loved seeing Surtur as his true form, but it would have been better to have him as large as a building rather than a mountain to have Hela seem more on his level.

don't really understand how she beats the good guys in the beginning with ease but then looses without anything really changing for either side. also her army of the dead didn't seem to do anything

Flat is justice

best Hulk story

>RLM said it so anyone else who says the same thing must be parroting
I've not watched a RLM video in years and agree that was the weak part of the movie

>being so brain damaged by Sup Forums that you can only speak in buzzwords

>Tee hee, look how CLUMSY I am! This will in no way shape or form hamper me at any moment when I need to shine, but she is so flawed because she's CLUMSY

All the character of a Twilight protagonist. Yep. Not a Mary Sue at all!