Medieval show

>medieval show
>character dual wields swords

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I was so pissed when they had arthur dayne fight with dual swords in GoT
i'd been waiting for that scene since 2012 but D&D just ended fucking it up horribly

>WW2 flick
>bren outdone by spandau

especially since its perfectly plausible and can be done without looking like star wars

There is recorded history of dual wielding though, rare as it was.

Didn't the Portuguese regularly use a rapier in the right hand and main gauche in the left during the conquistador era?

do you think anyone ever historically actually ended their opponent rightly?

>iron age show
>strong women warriors

What about the knife + tomahawk combo

>iron age show
>people are taller than 5 feet

Dual wielding wasn't all that unusual. It's only weird if both swords are the same length. The non-dominant hand held a shorter sword/dagger.

>people's teeth are sparkly white

nonononono
nonononono

It's a common thing in European fencing (also Niten Ichi-ryu in Japan), but it's not the same: you have a main weapon and a smaller and lighter one. This way your balance doesn't suffer as it does with two full-size weapons.
Also these fighting styles usually involved a duel of unarmored or lightly armored fighters

>medieval show
>goblin girl shadowsteps behind amazonian qt

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrying_dagger

>amazonian qt

>as if you wouldnt hit this with the force of a thousand suns

>with fashionable and stylish hair

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Thank you for your answer. I guess I'm confused because I thought one main weapon and a light weapon/dagger was what dual wielding was. I take it this refers specifically to using a longsword in each hand, something like that?

fucking renaissance when armor was extinct because gunpowder deemed it worthless and it was mostly used in duels as a makeshift shield because swords could barely cut

I'm sorry but when someone tells me dual wielding I imagine kung fu shit where the guy spins around with both same sized weapons, chops heads off in a scissor like fashion and fights two guys at the same time.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimachaerus

did they lose the technology during the dark ages?

You know you want it.

>guy known entirely for his single huge sword
>lol let's make him dual wield
I will never, ever forgive them for this

why is she jerking off the manlet in public?

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Depends what you meed by longsword. What would have been referred to in period as a longsword was a 2 handed weapon, so it would be almost biomechanical impossible to dual wield those effectively. The video game idea of long vs short swords comes from contrasting weapons from different periods. As soon as metal working techniques became good enough, almost all cultures gravitated to using as long a single handed weapon as was viable. Most cultures just call swords “swords”, or some translation. “Longsword” or some translation usually indicates a dedicated two handed weapon.

In the days that metal quality dictated length, you easily could dual wield, and roman gladiators notably did, as twin swords is definitely a very flashy style involving lots of skill. But in battle it’s almost useless. Using your second hand for a weapon that gives no further range or power makes no sense when you could have a polearm or a shield.

Later, when swords reached maximum single handed lengths, the only people to dual wield were fencing masters to make a point of how skilled (and likely ambidextrous) they were. So basically, unless the weapons are shorter than you can manage one handed (several cultures kept this fighting style past when swords became longer, in which case it generally beats a single sword, but loses to a shielded or armoured opponent), or you’re a master fencer, then dual wielding natched swords is not a good idea, and using the more standard dagger/short sword and sword combination is only useful in a one on one unarmoured confrontation (which is not only a situation in which that pair is good, it might be the best weapon choice of all for that situation.) So yeah, when autists like me mock dual wielding, we are talking about weapons that are too long, or characters forgoing a shield to be flashier when it makes no sense, both of which are very common in “historical” films.

Name 217 movies where that happens

Could you pierce plate armor with a spear?

Childhood is idolizing the Twin Swordsman.
Adulthood is realizing the Axeknight is the only logical choice.

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You’re going to have difficulty piercing plate armour with anything, and really you’re not going for the plates but the gaps. A spear offers more range and better point control so it’s easier to get the point in, and way more leverage to wrench with once it’s in.

To a degree, fighting a well plated man is equal parts martial arts and tin opening. And given that he might happily receive a blow to give one to a less armoured man, a good few feet of hardwood and a spike is a great way to at least keep him back, if nothing else.

indonesians do it
youtube.com/watch?v=VG--JoXV2HI
youtube.com/watch?v=Vbo85v_Oqc4

depends. sword and parrying dagger isnt bad. but two longswords is retarded.

>gingerly poke two niggas twice because you can't put your back into either movement

FTFY

I'd hire them to spin flaming torches at parties

To more accurately answer your questiin though, maybe if he’s knocked down and you can fall your weight onto the spear. You’re certainly not going to stab him hard enough in a plate to go through the plate without knocking him off balance (or more likely, yourself if the spear skids off).

Bypassing armour was always considered more practical than piercing it though.

Yeah, I was tempted to also bring up fillipino kali, okinawan kobudo or chinese butterfly knives as examples of cultures continuing to dual wield past the point when metalwork had advanced enough to move to maximum single handed length. I think you’ll find that in both cases (and I’m almost willing to bet every case, though if anyone has proof otherwise I’d be fascinated to see it), that those weapons are sub maximum length.

I didn’t list all the variations because my comment was already long and rambling, but yes. Two “shortsword” length blades is a very viable option for unarmoured dueling or skirmishing. Again, I’d go as far as saying it beats a longer single handed weapon 6 or 7 times out of 10 assuming no huge skill gaps.

Kali is awesome by the way. My only experience with it has been a few classes here and there. It’s something I definitely want to put time into one day when my schedule allows it. Unlike HEMA, kobudo or Kung Fu weapon work it actually makes sense to practice today for self defence.

>few feet of hardwood and a spike
just like the flemish kicked the french knight's asses

i still don't understand what stereotype the Spearknight is perpetuatin

>swords and spears

fuck that faggot shit, use a mace or just straight up punch the motherfucker's helm in

Well yeah, all you have to do is look at that and you realise it’s a way better anti armour weapon than any sword. It’s just made for punching into gaps.

Exactly. Just use weapons that kill the guy without even punching through all that armour. Swords are trash against fully armoured opponents.

getting swole in armour

probably it was supposed to mean lance

The worst part is they could have managed to make it decent even with him dual-wielding, but the choreographer was so fucking shit at his job that he had to have the guy with a shield just randomly drop it so that he could get killed. I'm assuming he's the same guy as did the sand-snake choreography, and he ought to lose his job.

spear chuckers

>movie set before the 1800s
>people's lawns and fields of grass have a clearly defined line
>roads have grass growing in the middle of them

Personal pet-peeves of mine. I wish I didn't care, but they always stand out to me. Not talking about movies set on some king's estate where some peasants were cutting the lawn with sickles, of course.

>medieval show
>people cut rope

That actually happened, in a duelling and contest context.

>Autist constantly freaks out over minor irrelevant details
>Is a nobody
>Movie makers understand nobody going to the movies gives a shit about realism or they would be outside and do what is coolest
>Make billions

I'd imagine that you'd spend a lot of time braiding your hair and making it nice if everyone was wearing the same boring kind of rudimentary clothing. Bog-bodies generally have quite nice hair, don't they?

U mad?

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Then you're operating off a very specific definition of dual-wielding, one that basically precludes the question.

>"it sucks when shows feature dual-wielding"
>it could actually be done in certain historical contexts
>"yeah but that's not really dual-wielding, only retarded ninja shit is actually dual-wielding"

At that stage, just complain about stupid ninja shit.

ffs nerds

>dual swords
>plausible

>That actually happened
Yes, using a sword and a parrying dagger, never with two swords

>not pimpin

Imagine being on the battlefield and seeing these two cunts dance around eachother, before walking up and braining one of them from behind with your trusty peasant club as they're focused on dancing.

Yeah but that dual wielding was always with a sword and dagger. There's no advantages to fighting with two blades that are the same length.

>people's teeth are sparkly white

Not really that implausible in a society where refined sugar is not available, that shit is the #1 reason for dental rot.

I'm sure there was some contest where you had to use two swords, but the point behind the contest would be that using two swords was fucking weird and probably hilarious for the audience to watch. Like those contests they had where you were just supposed to climb or walk across a greased pole. Stupid but entertaining.

Explain this to a historylet

Hang around to hear some insults and determine who's the richer of the two.
Bludgeon the other guy.

>spearchuggers

Know your racial stereotypes. It will save you in the upcoming race war.

knives werent invented yet

>grab sword by blade
>slice up hand
who thought this was a good idea?

I'm not that much of a historylet user...

>futuristic film
>buildings have curved windows
Really takes me right out of it to be honest

Nigger, half swording is a legit technique, that isn't the problem with that video.

>not bludgeoning the one with the more expensive gear or nicest teeth if they've got the same gear
Don't rely on charity when you can just sell.

>spend hours sharpening sword
>grab it by the sharp end and use it as a primitive club
were knights retarded?

Liu Bei dual wields.
Don't you dare bother trying to tell me that the Romance of the Three Kingdoms isn't accurate.

Good point. Wanna team up and we'll bludgeon both at the same time?

>Hours sharpening your sword when you could be lifting so you could use an even heavier pommel for half-swording your opponents helm in.

Fucking dexers.

i have that same gun. Sig p228 is when sig peaked and the 229 is objectively shit.

He was such a prick on that guys show. Well They just shoot finE! fucking anglo faggot

Bare handed half swording though?

Fencing manuals from the 14th, 15th and 16th century tend to make fighting someone in plate armour as much about wrestling as fencing almost, getting them onto the ground and then stabbing through the visor was a popular one, as well as a technique called half swording, using both hands to hold the sword and trying to stab with the point into the gaps in the plate (see attached image)

Were swords the 9mm of the late middle period?

>stabbing through the visor
that sounds terrifying desu

>this kills the knight

Who has the webm of this?

isnt this GRAVE crime in bongland ?

>you a badass nigga
>you a dumbass nigga

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Have you ever tried making rope? It was a bitch to make, and if it's a sturdy piece(rather than a simple one made out of simple plant fibres that you make just to fasten two branches together with or whatever) the material cost was relatively high. The reason we have so many varied knots is because our ancestors wanted to be able to re-use ropes over and over, coming up with different knots to let them do so. The only time you'd actually cut a rope is if your life depended on it, basically.

Take for example your average pirate/age-of-sail movie, where they're always cutting ropes. These take place in later times when rope-making had become a bigger industry, to fuel the navies of the different empires, but rope was still precious. In reality you'd be reprimanded and maybe even flogged if you went around cutting perfectly fine ropes instead of removing them properly, because the ship can only hold so many yards of rope and you'll inevitably run out if you're on a longer voyage, which could spell disaster or force you to spend days resupplying at some port when you could really be cruising around looking for the enemy.

TL:DR: it's too much of a waste of a precious resource.

This bothers me more than it should with some shows. Black sails especially.

Good post user, thanks for the explanation

>arabic character has an oversized "scimitar"

Basically yes, and further back than that. A handgun is a good (and increasingly popular) comparison, in a pitched battle, lots of guys, formations, ranks etc you want something to keep the enemy at a distance and that can cover ground, so a polearm, spear or lance are far more useful (see a rifle in modern combat) but once the situation becomes close quarters, one on one in a smaller area, you want something more maneuverable and and quicker, so that's when a sword becomes much more useful, as a handgun would be more useful than a big rifle in close quarters.

>get drawn hung and quartered after you try to sell it and people recognize the gear, and you fail to make a good excuse where you got it and why the that knight is dead

>medieval show
>there are black people just walking around hanging out with white people

Apparently it's fine because you can get a good enough grip that your hand won't slide across the edge of the sword. But then all the videos I've seen where they show it off have had them striking with the sword against shit like tires or boxing-bags, where the blade naturally bounces back in a way that makes it easy for them to predict it and keep their hands safe. I'm sure it wasn't as harmless when you were swinging the thing against a guy in armour. I can't help but feel that it's just an obscure technique hyped up by ancient memers.

So well trained knight in full plate was basically unkillable for peasants with showels, hoes and pitchforks?
Could he solo a whole settlement/village?

Rope is expensive and takes alot of work to make, just untie the knot so you can reuse it