Alright so what the FUCK was the point of these laser gates?

Alright so what the FUCK was the point of these laser gates?

What's a gate worth for if they open every 15 seconds?

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The explanation was they used too much power to run full time. Which is dumb

easier to adapt to a videogame level.

Unironically this

what's the real purpose of these laser gates?

Naboo has no concept of Occupational Safety and Health.

So just have 2 of them then which uses less power so both stay operational? Or hell just 1 REALLY strong or thick one?

Actually let me correct that statement: the Galaxy has no concept of Occupational Safety.

Like, in the Deathstar, there are no fucking

It's probably some kind of radiation/gas control mechanism to vent the reactor chamber when it's in full use, keeping the exhaust safe.

Control ventilation of the core.

The point was to be the only decent scene in TPM

Laser gates, also known as electron walls, were designed to protect high-security or dangerous areas by sealing them off with a wall of energy.

Laser gates were installed in the Plasma Refinery Complex on Naboo. The barriers were strong enough to easily block a lightsaber strike and would vaporize any matter that touched them. However, the generators were unable to keep up the immense energy needed to power the gates, and so they would cycle on and off approximately every five minutes. Each gate remained open for only around ten seconds before cycling on again.

These gates were crucial to the death of Qui-Gon Jinn at the hands of Darth Maul as the laser gates prevented Jinn's Padawan, Obi-Wan Kenobi, from coming to his aid against the Sith Lord.

It's a long long time ago in a Galaxy far far away, we're not supposed to understand how their technology works? Did you question how does carbonite work in Empire or did you just enjoy the narrative and not ask questions?

theyre cool and they make the fight more interesting

>Appearances
Star Wars: The Old Republic

Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace novel (First appearance)

Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace video game

Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace

Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace junior novel "End Game"

Jedi Quest: Path to Truth (Mentioned only)

The Wrath of Darth Maul (Appears in flashback(s))

The Last of the Jedi: Death on Naboo

Star Wars: The Force Unleashed video game

Escape from the Death Star

LEGO Star Wars: The Video Game (Non-canonical appearance)

Keeps birds and mice out of the ducting.

Kenobi could have used the force from a distance to sabotage Maul's movements.

Why couldn't Obi-Wan force speed through? They did it at the start of TPM?

You might not know this, but Obi-Wan was considered by most to be a mediocre Jedi. He was well-respected and a solid general in the war but thoroughly average as a swordsman or sorcerer

>Run high speed through a series of laser gates.
What could go wrong?

He defeated General Grievous in lightsaber combat.

Force pushing Maul while he was focused on Qui-Gon would have been within his ability at the time.

The plot demanded he not do that, though.

He shot that fucker in the heart with a blaster and then called it uncivilised

>mediocre

Do you know just how fucking much handrails for a voluminous moon-sized space station would cost?

No, but a Naboo Starfighter might be able to hyperspace ram through them

>average

Replacement troopers are cheap.

This was actually a cool scene because we see both Jedi and Sith taking a breather. Qui-Gon meditates seeking his inner calm, Maul paces back and forth focusing his anger and rage on his opponent.

It's the Death Star, not the Safety Star

It's a stupid explanation since they can just rotate which ones are open.

This

why are there tentacles

Who cares, it made for a tense scene and interesting character moments.

Flaws were intentionally designed into it.

Not a normal droid

i've spent a good amount of time in my years thinking about what would happen if you stuck your arm through those gates. would it just instantly disintegrate, or would it pass through all melted?

Switchboard for all the naboo telephones

>kills Darth Maul singlehandedly
>kills General Grievous singlehandedly
>mercs Anakin so hard that the "strongest force user ever" lives in a bacta tank and needs a fucking respirator 24/7
>thoroughly average swordsman
>yahnahcunt.exe
Obi is the only Jedi in the prequels that isn't a complete jobber. You don't fucking fuck with Obi.

That was actually pretty fucking stupid. I can't believe I liked this shit as a kid. For what purpose did genndy say "You know what star wars needs? Jousting!" and how come no one stopped him? Yikes.

Because it was at the start of the movie and George probably forgot about it.

Jedi KNIGHT

What kind of knight can't joust?

Wtf even is this shit. Why the hell in a universe with blasters and lightsaber technology would they be fighting with lances. Why would their speeders look like horses when the animals don't even exist in their universe.

>Darth Maul has the high ground
>Kenobi wins
>Anakin has the low ground
>Kenobi wins
He was clearly a master of grounds though

Literally to stop Obi Wan from saving Qui Gon

Evidently obiwan. You saw how the idiot got butthurt and pulled out his saber, right?

That was some laughably bad swordsmanship.
>OVERHEAD CHOP! OVERHEAD CHOP! OVERHEAD CHOP!

Also, why the hell isn't the lightsaber falling out of him? The bade shouldn't be able to physically suspend and support the hilt in the air like that. It's not a truly physical blade. I'm so tired of the imagery I see of people treating lightsabers the same as normal swords. They burn through metal blast doors! They aren't steel blades! Blah

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Is that really the explanation now? I remember around the time came out, the visual dictionary just described at a symbolic thing; IIRC, some part of Naboo folklore described a certain number of gates as necessary to holding back chaos or something like that.

The mouse shills cant into visual medium

a fun environment for the kids to play tag

Well, never mind that - the real question is why Qui-Gon runs after him when Kenobi is lagging behind. What is their hurry? Maul is the one confronting them, so why are they chasing him like their lives depend on it? Actually, why the fuck are they even going after him at all, when he should be the one going after them?

What a pathetic post.

Its plasma dumbass

You are the one criticizing cartoon network shows cause they dont portrait warfare as you want lmao
The jedi are knights so they joust just like the starfigters dogfight like in ww1 and the capital ships engage each other like in the napoleonic wars, dont watch star wars of you dont understand this

to stop the c-beams

Stop being such an annoying pissant. That durge shit is terrible and it's not star wars. Genndy ends up righting the ship later.

But seriously you are defending a speederbike jousting squad. Think about that for more than a second.

stormtroopers have magnetized soles in their boots though, iirc, no reason that they wouldn't be strong enough to hold up your body weight if you wanted to fucking matrix that shit, so I doubt they have safety rails on any piece of equipment

matter of fact, I think some kind of magnetization is incorporated into 90% of all footwear considering they're on spaceships that could lose gravity fucking whenever

If he escapes then they can't interrogate him

Even better, make Darth Maul a real, thought out, well written character.

Have him lure them down there then lock himself and Qui Gon on the other side of an energy gate, forcing Obi to watch his master get killed. Its so much better to see a clever antagonist get one over on a protag than to see generic, empty 'bad guy' get lucky through shitty writing.

Hell, Maul could have been the badass we all mistook Vader and Boba for.

Is that really the priority at the moment of a crusial coup to retake Naboo, the queen running around with like a handfull of guards and having a boy they just found and more or less bought hiding in a hangar in full battle?

Probably a lot less than having to hire and fly in thousands of new, experienced employees every day because they just keep falling into dimly lit crevices with no railings or safety signs.
Imagine the mounting maintenance costs because every time you send a crew down to clear out all the bodies gumming up the works they just disappear down another fucking bottomless pit with no discernible purpose other than to adhere to Lucas's idea of what the inside of a space station looks like.

They wanted the vidya game audience.

HUURRRR, angry red man MAD!

Imagine my disappointment when all the sith who aren't in the movies are intelligent schemers full of passion and purpose, and all we get IN the movies are a bunch of angry cunts, whiny babymen, and Sheev who pulls the most asinine plot out of his weird, wrinkly ass which only succedded because they needed it to for the series to make sense. Even though it fucking doesn't.

there's probably entire nations of endless chasms that have never seen as much as a maintenance crew after construction
you could probably built a fleet of star destroyers with the raw material alone that you're saving on these handrails

Sure, but what about that legion of highly trained and well paid technicians and engineers and all those work crews who keep falling down holes or taking a wrong turn and ending up eaten by a trash compactor octopus.

>there's probably entire nations of endless chasms that have never seen as much as a maintenance crew after construction

an unoccupied death star would be a great setting for a horror movie

They explain it in the novelization. As I remember it, after encountering them on Tatooine, Darth Maul was concerned because Qui-Gon held out better against him than any other opponent and he knew Qui-Gon had an apprentice from observing him. He was open to fighting them both at the same time "for the thrill of it" but ultimately set up a contingency plan for if he was overwhelmed and needed to isolate one of them, so he rigged those shields to go on and off out of sequence ahead of time. That's why during the fight he seems to intentionally lead them toward that area - there's even a part where he uses the Force to damage a control console for a door to open it so he can retreat into it.

So the laser gates normally cycle on and off in sequence so one is always on, but he reset their timers so they'd all go on and off at the same time, allowing him to pass through but potentially cutting off or vaporizing his opponents.

Or just have one gate. One goddamned gate that they can keep on indefinitely. Maybe with control consoles on either side. Maybe Maul is the only one who had a passkey?

Nah, lets just dump as much pointlessly cool technology as we can into this thing while still thinly supporting our shitty narrative.

That almost makes sense, but if I recall in the film, Darth Maul bashes one of the laser shields with his lightsaber as if testing it's strength to see if he could cut through it.

Also, why didn't Obi-Wan or Qui-Gon just jam their lightsabers into the metal fixtures emitting the laser shield? Surely that would have disrupted it.

>so how should we do this, George?
>I got it, lets make a terrible, shitty trilogy that makes no goddamned sense.
>I'm with you so far, Boss.
>Then we'll let the word geeks write some books that make it all ok.

Cut, print, go fuck yourself.

that's basically what this book was, but a star destroyer

Or it would have exploded, killing everyone.

They filmed the scene but it didn't make the final cut. Roy Park talked a bit about this, how they wanted to play up that Darth Maul was very cunning and tactical but most of those scenes got cut for time or being too hard to work out (though a lot of it probably had to do with Roy Park not being a even a half-decent actor.)

That's why Darth Maul seems so underdeveloped. They had more planned with him but just cut it out.

>Darth Maul bashes one of the laser shields with his lightsaber as if testing it's strength to see if he could cut through it.

That was the actor's idea, they just kept it in because it was a good take.

Who needs star destroyers when you can just sit in your well maintained, well staffed, safety conscious Deathstar and threaten any who dissent with utter destruction if they don't get back in line. Troop transports and some escort fleets of smaller attack craft would be all you need to keep all your slaveworlds policed by your endless army of mindless, soulless shock troops. Maybe pop a moon or two when people get froggy, so they don't forget.

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tfw Maul's canon death is at the hands of Obi-Wan, who baits him into trying the same move that killed Qui-Gonn by mimicking Qui-Gonn's stance

Yep. Not that it really matters. Star Wars has always been full of shit that doesn't make sense, as points out. You could ask how lightsabers know when to stop, or why they don't try to use the Force to turn off an opponent's lightsaber, or why they don't slide the lightsaber down and chop off fingers when they "lock" sabers, or how R2 can move in the sand, or why don't they just shoot the escape pod, or why did Leia go to the Rebel base and risk everything when she knew she was being tracked (and tracked through hyperspace, which apparently was something people in The Last Jedi thought was impossible because I guess they never saw A New Hope), or how the whole plan to save Han made no sense and was fucking stupid. Ultimately, it's just a story and you need to relax.

RIP anontrooper

>canon
hol up nerd boi

Gay as fuck

Why do people associate Stanley Kubrick with the trademark of attention to detail? The fact that these gates have an actual meaning among the shit load of other details like this in the Star Wars universe should easily give George Lucas the monopoly of being known for his attention to detail.

that would be cool if the move maul does made any sense at all, or if there was a single moment in the original fight that made it seem like either opponent was trying to hit the other.

If people didn't demand answers, then why is there so much literature out there explaining all this shit? Remember all those books with the cross sectioned ships, many of which were barely in a movie?

from the jedis point of view, nothing is more important than the threat of the sith apparently returning. one could argue the jedi would get involved even if they didn't give a shit about naboo, Just to find out who maul is.

How can people watch this shit CG?

>metal door stops human bodies
>lightsaber easily cuts through them
>laser door stops human bodies, convenient for me to kill the skilled guy
>maybe lightsaber cuts this one too?
>nah, oh well, I'll wait and kill this one in a second

this is why I hate people who shit on the prequels, every little thing that isn't done perfectly or seems like it might be out of place is immediately drawn into the spotlight like its a glaring flaw that makes the film unwatchable

someone can use a laser door to keep a guy from double teaming and killing him, but still maybe try and find out if his cuts-every-god-damn-thing-in-the-galaxy-sword will cut another god damn thing since the jedi didn't try it already

I don't even like that I have to get on such a fucking soapbox just to defend them and get made fun of for it, they aren't amazing movies but they're not nearly as bad as their given credit for

The Sith are the Jedi's true enemy. The Naboo shit takes a back seat when your sworn enemy for thousands of years suddenly reappears and attacks you.

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>then why is there so much literature out there explaining all this shit?
Autistic fans who will argue about anything will purchase just about piecr of useless information to prove others wrong on the internet. That doesn't mean the average moviegoer is demanding to know how a fucking X-Wing works.

>at the last second the troopers swerve left and then unload on the droids with heavy energy weapons as they speed by

Only way this wouldn't have been stupid.

This still doesnt explain why Maul reacts with surprise when the lightsaber can't go through the laser door. Please stop defending useless and contrived retcons.

Exactly. Burning hot plasma. Not a physical blade. And even assuming the tech allows it to do that, then the next thing that makes it make no sense is the fact that this burning hot blade that can cut through steel like butter doesn't just vaporize his chest as it falls through him to the floor because of gravity.

>This still doesnt explain why Maul reacts with surprise when the lightsaber can't go through the laser door.
Not in the script, kid. The actor's adlib is NOT canon.

I see no problem on that

I actually went and rewatched this part of the fight and it looks a lot more like maul looks at the energy door, makes sure its floor to ceiling so nobody can jump over and still gangfuck him, and then taps it with his saber to make sure he wont get stabbed through the wall, then stands there and waits for the fight to keep going

watch it yourself, I don't see a hint of surprise, he looks up cautiously, taps it, and then mean mugs qui-gon

anti-prequel shills are tiring, take your nostalgia goggles off dad

No, speeder jousting in an actual fight (like this scene shows) and not just for sport at least, is absolutely absurd. Clearly just the creators of the show being idiots and not taking the time to filter out these "fun" little ideas they want to insert into star wars just because "hey wouldn't it be cool if clones jousted with lances on speeders like knights did?" Because you know that is about as much thought as went into this scene. They have guns. It's a fight. Why joust.

They don't need a practical explanation. Not everything in sci fi and fantasy films needs one. There's plenty of shit in these movies that doesn't make sense but you never question it.

I love the prequels, I wasn't using that as a glaring flaw, I was just wondering why that action by Maul casts doubt on the explanation that he set up that whole area specifically for this fight.