Will another Superhero movie as good as Logan ever be made again?

Will another Superhero movie as good as Logan ever be made again?

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unironic Kino

Logan was fucking boring though

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Pity it won't win any awards, but it's the only capeshit movie i've enjoyed in years

All the kids in it were awful including the Wolverine 2.0 kid.

>Daddy

do you think that line was recorded on set, in that scene
or a producer recorder her saying it during rehearsel hours in his hotel?

Black Panther?

I HURT MYSELF TODAY

it was not kino, fuck off. it was a good capeshit flick which makes it a decent movie at best, your taste is just horrifically slanted by the other shit you force yourself to watch on a monthly basis

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Yes. It was called Thor: Ragnarok.

>muh open borders

I hope youre joking you little shit

Loved that movie. Thank you based Mangold.

Logan isnt a superhero movie
its a rather powerful human drama that just happens be about an xman

the movie was fine until he went to little kid village. It didnt work in Beyond Thunderdome and didnt work here.

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>the hero, in a moment of utter despair and hopelessness, trashes his car after burying his mentor and father figure
>audience laughs
I wanted to kill everyone in that fucking theatre

Logan was a 6.5/10 at best.

>taking the term kino seriously

In 30 years, once capeshit has died and somebody decides to revisit the genre and makes a superhero film that features its best elements. The "Unforgiven" of superhero films.

>amerimutts

>le redddddi ttt XDD am i rigt? lets all point and call him a faggot!

THERE'S A MAN

This movie was literally predictive programming priming the audience for the replacement of their race by a bunch of shitskins.

Also there was way too much screaming and yelling which annoyed me.

@94299131
you dont even deserve a (you)

I
PUSH MY FINGERS INTO MY
EYES

I laughed too. Got a problem you autistic faggot?

What the fuck?
Are Americans so fucking braindead that they found at broken man lashing out at the world "funny"?

WHOEVER IS UNJUST
LET HIM BE UNJUST STILL

for real though, I've never been to a theater in the US. Do they really clap, cheer and stuff? I only experienced this once (Get Out) and had to leave.

That moment when Hugh Jackman, the nicest guy ever is yelling a little girls face telling her to shut the fuck up had me laughing.

>the millennial attention span
take your ADHD medication beforehand next time

I'm not American, this was in Scandinavia. This subject has been discussed a lot here though and it seems audiences the world over laughed at that scene. I think all normies are sociopathic to an extent no matter what country they're from

get out

>Marvel will have some dipshit young Wolverine wearing a yellow outfit

This. The longer the movie went my hopes the wouldnt just die insignificantly surrounded by those moronic kids grew higher and higher, only to see just that happening. What a stupid scene.

Such disappointment. Not big into capeshit movies anyway, so maybe even that was already quite the hight point for that genre, I dunno.

>I think all normies are sociopathic
You'd have to be to live in the world we live in

Because it was shit and babbies first emotional outburst. Is that really the level you guys operate on?
Well congratulations, you've become the brainless masses.

>Not taking the term Kino seriously

dont ever talk about Zac like that ever again

>it was shit babbies first emotional outburst
I'm sure this brain vomit made sense in your head

Because it was played for laughs. The film was capeshit deal with it

How can he be of an age where he was born in time to fight in the civil war but his brother (who isn't a mutant) is the correct age to fight in vietnam?

Sabretooth is a mutant.

oh, well there you go. Thanks

OMG. Like literally?

The reason people laughed at that scene was not because of the context of funeral but because of the way the scene was shot:
1. Car doesn't start and Logan overreacts
2. Gets out and attempts to fix it
3. Girl looks away and sees a guy and his dog - audio is quiet and peaceful
4. Back at the girl and we hear banging off-screen
5. Logan trashing the car

It comes across as a punchline. The cinematography emphasizes the distance as well - if it were shot from close so we see Logan trying to keep it together as he distracts himself by being angry at the car instead of mourning, people wouldn't laugh. Even the initial rage and punching the wheel is comedic because it is shot from afar.

Huge Jackedman is a boring fag and Logan was boring and faggy, FACT.

It was supposed to be funny.

Wow it's almost like some scenes are made to be tonally ambiguous to make you laugh and cry at the same time. The wonders of cinema

yup, extremely disappointing. the trailer was better than the movie.

>tfw brainlet

Why'd the black guy try to kill Logan?

>cry
>Logan
the state of this board

Happened in Australia too. Fucking idiots. We're violent by nature but if they can't into subtext they're still dumbasses

Tragedy is a close up, comedy is a wide shot.

The people who laughed hadn't lost anyone close. Garunteed. The people mad at those who laughed had.

ITS CAPESHIT

who cares

if you want some emotional depth, watch star wars

she doesnt even say that. and shes referring to him when he pulls that robot bug out of him.

Truth

Logan is trash. How could anyone watch this scene and think "yeah this is good, yeah this is worth watching". youtube.com/watch?v=6BJEjh7YVuo

stop watching capeshit
fucking manchildren

X23 stand-alone when?

Hi Hugh how’s it going?

No because Disney bought Fox and everything is going to be PG or maybe PG-13 from now on.

Why not

>Your mentor blames you for having to live in a giant silo in the middle of the Mexican desert
>It's actually his fault and you are trying to protect him

Was it mutants that Charles killed or just random people?

Disappointing, cliche finale - yes.

Bad, boring movie altogether - fuck no. Patrick Stewart is at his best, Jackman finally has something to act, and it's generally good like that.

But where it really shines, is how there's an actual goal there, an actual motivation for each of them. Capeshit pretty much always goes "X wants to destroy the world" or whatever, and heroes follow a detached, shitty quest to stop them, because of reasons. Nothing's really at stake, the audience can't connect, there's no real theme or a thought behind it - it's just blockbuster shit.

Logan actually managed to make capeshit where the goals are understandable, characters well-rounded, and you actually care about whether they succeed, without knowing they will. Logan's story goes into the Book of Eli, or Last of Us territory, instead of another Avengers, Star Wars, or whatever McGuffin-driven summer franchise comes next.

And that's why it's a decent movie - it's not perfect, but at least it has some decency and respect for moviemaking and storytelling.

>logan is super deep gabegino!

This.

Originally it was meant to be Mister Sinister as the bad guy who genocided the mutants but they thought it wouldn't fit the movie's tone.

Good choice

because it's a child killing grown men with horrible choreography and an abject lack of tension.

>characters well-rounded, and you actually care about whether they succeed, without knowing they will
This, part of what makes Logan such a good piece of writing is that there's a discernible beginning, middle, and end for the character. Meanwhile, Captain America has one personality that exists through all his movies, and Tony Stark has been exactly the same in all his appearances. Even in Civil War, neither of those characters moved an inch.
Whereas in 'Logan', every time you watch it you can observe how the character begins very bitter, hopeless, waiting to finally expire. The only reason he doesn't kill himself is for the sake of his insane 'dad'.
In the middle he's totally lost, he's partial to being helpful to this girl but he's too afraid to hope for anything meaningful to come of it. All this pent-up fear and anger and frustration is borne in the scene where he beats up the car. He's really fucked up but he doesn't seem as eager to kill himself now. Instead I think he fears letting Laura and maybe even himself down. I wonder if he's almost glad that the car didn't start.
And by the end it really is like a shell has been cracked open. It hurts him when Laura tells him he must not love her. And he dies knowing that he did his best, and that his life in the end really did mean something, both to himself and more importantly to the little girl.

Logan was fucking awful.

>Mindnuke all other X-Men and sweep that issue under the rug
>First 15 minutes are a parade of violence, nudity, and F-bombs to elevate the rating to R
>Villains are one dimensional and utter shit
>"IT'S LIKE SHANE GET IT? THIS IS HOW SYMBOLISM WORKS RIGHT?"
>Let's kill this black family to show how high the stakes are
>Child acting

is this movie worth watching?

i hate superhero movies but i like jackman

>Tony Stark has been exactly the same in each of his appearances

you have not been watching these movies.

Jackman's performance is excellent, very charged. The movie itself has strong moments but the quality dips considerably in the third act.

How did he get the metal claws back?
Did he want them even though they poison his body?

Wasn't the whole point of Iron Man 2 to say that Tony is always going to be an overconfident, overly self-assured person? The only thing that changes is that he gets a little more conscientious in each movie he's in. The only movie which had anything close to real development for him was the first.

i thought they would bring her back but now that disney owns fox i kinda doubt it

>Even in Civil War, neither of those characters moved an inch.

Tony's personality in Civil War was a culmination of a series of failures that turned a cavalier ego-maniac into someone with an inflated sense of personal responsibility that wanted to impress his own misery and self-loathing on everyone else because he views himself and others like him as a danger to society. He can't see Cap's arguments as to why regulation is bad because as far as Tony's concerned, without regulation it's only a matter of time before he fucks up badly to get everyone on the planet killed. Not to mention the personal issues he has with Cap considering the relationship he had with his father. And when he's finally able to start working with him instead of against him, he learns Cap betrayed his trust in the worst way possible and falls into a murderous pit of despair. The only reason he's pulled out of it is that Cap was big enough to admit to his own weakness and mishandling of the situation while still staying true to the heroic values that Tony actually admires in him.

But, you know, same shit.

I don't see how you can say Tony Stark at the end of Iron Man 1 and Tony Stark in Civil War are the exact same.

So Dark Phoenix must be set between Apocalypse and Xmen, but New Mutants seems like it'll be after Logan

X23 cameo?

pretty embarrassing if this is the pinnacle of the genre when it has shit like that smartphone video scene. the dialogue is bad too, but at least it's not as much of a focus as usual

But why did cap never say "We JUST found out 50% of the U.S. government are litteral nazis"

At the end of Iron Man 1 Tony feels a great single-handed responsibility to helping people. He shuts down his company's weapons division and pretty much assumes all of its weaponry research for his own superhero purposes. He doesn't see the Stark Industries weapons themselves as being necessarily bad, but he thinks that only he has the proper moral capacity to use them. Plus Rhodey, I guess.

Fast forward to Civil War -- now not only does he still retain total control over all Star Industries weapons, but when someone else fucks up with their unique weapons/abilities he thinks THEY should go under his control too. He realizes he's fallible but at the same time never takes a back seat on anything. Like Black Widow said in CW, he doesn't speak up once in their early debate not because he's listening, but because he's made up his mind. He doesn't see the irony in the whole conflict starting over a dead teenager, and then recruiting a teenager to help him out in a pivotal battle. He thinks that just because he's single-handedly doing it, what could go wrong?

The entirity of the X-men

Remember when he yelled out "UNDEROOOS!!"

I hated the constant Spanish speaking. And the little girl was constantly pissed. Idk. Didn't feel any father daughter bond. So I wasn't really moved at all at the end.

Yeah, the set pieces and symbolism were there, but there weren't any moments that made it make sense that they viewed each other as father and daughter.

Geez I wonder how Wolverine got his claws back between The Wolverine and DoFP...I mean, they only had Magneto with him and futuristic almost magical technology...I still wonder how. Maybe they are saving that plothole for another movie. Claws: Returns

Also, presumably the girl won't be able to grow properly because her adamantium skeleton will prevent it?
But her flesh may still grow to adult size atop an unchanging bone-structure...?
Basically a complete nightmare.

Can't remember the movie that well. Did she just get the claws, or was it all the way through? Also, why the surprise foot-claws?

Damn, son.

Wolverine isn't capeshit, bitch. It's retractable clawshit.

user, you post on Sup Forums.

She's mexican, she's used to it.

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