I was enjoying this show but now I'm on episode 7 and it's completely lost me. What the FUCK were they thinking?

I was enjoying this show but now I'm on episode 7 and it's completely lost me. What the FUCK were they thinking?

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Dude side plots in a forest for fucking ages lmao

What do you mean?

The show has ground to a complete halt with this sister bullshit

They ran out of ideas

Pros:
>Poe
>Ortega's "grandma"
>Are you a believer?
>Erect Nipples
>Destroying that interrogation clinic
Cons:
>Choosing nipples over acting ability
>Headache inducing fight scenes
>Jungle Freedom fighters
>Sister plotline
>most plotlines

Fuck you, I enjoyed it.
Best yandere little sister on tv. Until they made her 100% insane in the last 2 episodes.

I hate all the dude mexican family lmao shit.

Poe is probably the only thing I genuinely like in this.

I hate this in every show that has it, an almost entire episode(s) worth of flashbacks which destroys plot momentum.

I just don't understand why they did all of these bullshit plot lines

I just wanted a comfy cyberpunk detective show where he investigates a murder.

Ortega's titties are N I C E

That's true

I think it's writers thinking they're clever.

-bad writing
-bad acting
-stupid plot
+based Poe
+Purefoy
+cool aesthetic
+no other scifi out right now

Poe is the only good thing in the show

the book does that and suffers greatly from it. As its obvious from just about page 1 that bancroft killed himself.

nice set of bean bags she's got there

Well maybe it would be like a cyberpunk csi

Seriously? I'm at episode 7 and I feel like the show just kicked into gear an episode ago. I also like seeing some background and history.

You must have poor taste. Episode 7 is a complete waste of time.

There's no need to lie.

When he began the shooting in the interrogation clinic, my head started to play “Pumped up kicks”
kek

Episode 6 is horrid and the rest of the episodes all manage to be worse.

>everyone who disagrees with me is wrong
Fuck you. I've been curious about what the fuck is going on with the protectorate and the envoys since episode 1.

Well, then you are lost!

Then you're a brainlet

The fact that everyone can die removes all the tension from the show.

you can tough it out for one more ep, naked girl fight in episode 8 is worth it

>no other scifi out right now
std

I'm watching it now. That description makes it sound more entertaining than it actually is.

In fact, fuck this

How is mexicop managing to fight what are presumably top of the line combat sleeves containing someone who has been practicing their combat for years?

this is when the show kinda started to turn me off. the scene where she's training is laughable. she's super obviously new to combat and it shows. either way, she shouldn't be able to stand toe to toe with combat sleeves or envoys. it's ridiculous.

lizzie in the synthetic sleeve being a badass also a fucking joke.

All she does is fight in her spare time. She's legitimately damaged and insane. Plus she got that cybernetic arm and had a fucking gun and shot most of them you absolute fucking retard.

It's a common problem with modern "action". Fights have to be even regardless of whether it makes sense in the context of the fight. If a weaker character is getting their ass handed to them and then manages to get lucky and win, then fair enough. Suspension of disbelief intact.

When the character is somehow able to hold their own against stronger, larger, and more well trained opposition you lose your audience.

That's not a sideplot, dumbass. It's his past.

she doesn't have neurochem and is a 5'0'' petite female.

Did we need to know fucking all of it though? I don't think it did anything to further the story.

What part of shot them did you miss?

hispanic version looks cool

Why is the sister in Ortega's body still talking with a mexican accent

Or is it just that the actress can't get rid of the mexican from her voice

>wtf I'm a sword master with 200 years experience how did I get shot

Legit laughed.

cyberarm ruins everything. not the cyber arms existence its perfectly believable they could make that with their level of tech. whats unbelievable is shes the only one taking advantage of this. yeah its expensive but none of the meths showed up in a solid gold android sleeve at the party as a look how fucking rich i am or ctac being terminators. even if it is a price thing why doesnt rei have a fully robotic combat sleeve when she knows shes going to kill people?
bancrofts wife has a state of the art sleeves whose power is secreting pheromones. that seems like garbage compared to super strength.

She was originally trying to trick Tak so there's that. Maybe trying to be an under bitch and make it hurt more by continuing to imitate get to piss him off.

I could see using the accent before he knew but you could be right, she can't change her accent so they just filmed it anyway after he figures it out.

Fucking this

The biggest problem I have with the show is that it doesn't take concepts to their logical conclusion. They just throw shit in and handwave constantly.

>Oh there's sentient AI hotels isn't that cool
>But AI doesn't exist anywhere else obviously
>Even though it's incredibly powerful

I can see your logic but I could also see them not wanting to shit up their sleeves with mechanical bullshit when they're rich as fuck and don't expect to be fighting people 24/7. Rei on the other hand, yeah makes sense but she's also a chink female brainlet so it probably didn't occur to her.

What the fuck is it with shows losing their way completely after the halfway point? The same thing happened with Westworld.

I think Fargo S2 is the only TV I've seen where it consistently gets better.

tfw you will never bury your face in Ortega's snatch

I'm just going to nitpick the last two episodes now

Why would chink chief throw up seeing bodies when ultra violence against sleeves is common

toss in cyber arms and it turns into deus ex human revolution but all that shit is ignored. and you know the only reason ortega got a robot arm is so she could remain relevant as a fighter.
netflix writers did not think of the implications at all.

Because the crazy chink destroyed the children's stacks too.

It still doesn't make much sense.

>I just don't understand why they did all of these bullshit plot lines
Female show """creator""" wanted to focus more on female characters so she made up new plot lines about them.

Why does everyone in the future drink whisky

Legit question, are you autistic? Seeing dead kids affects people on a much deeper level than dead adults.

I want a latina cop gf NOW

My point being their desensitised around death in general.

>Choosing nipples over acting ability
At least they chose reeeeeaaaally good nipples

where has this heist plotline come from out of nowhere

anyone should be able to stand up to show envoys. show envoys are hippies that lived in a cave, were lectured at in the woods and all died. tak and his sister had ctac/yakuza training before joining the rebels. the rest em come on. its a wonder anyone was scared of them to begin with. at most they completed a couple sabotage missions before getting wiped out.

But it doesn't make any sense. If the envoys are a rag-tag group of revolutionaries who hide in the woods, how would they have the resources to resleeve people tons of times? Furthermore, if their ultimate goal and final operation was to sleeve into clone bodies to do quick in-out operations, why would they need skillsets that involve persuasion, manipulation, and team-building? And before you say "to find info for final op," the leader in the series has all the information they need for the final op. And if they were crushed almost immediately after they started doing operations, why the fuck do people remember them 250 years later?

So, seriously, what the fuck were they thinking with making a government counter-insurgency death-squad (envoys in the book) into primitive-camping revolutionaries (envoys in the series) while changing absolutely nothing about them?

Questionable morals are NOT allowed. It's star wars tier logic. Muh rebels have to be perfect people, as if they're not then surely the audience can't root for them.

Even though we're given no obvious reason to root for them in the show anyway. If it was some sort of large scale resistance where they had a city's worth of people maybe we'd care. When it's a few dirty hippies in the woods we don't give a single fuck.

Not Rd and not on kids.

Of course everyone knows it's him. We don't know why though.

Are you me? This is the first time in the show I've gotten sick enough of this to do other shit instead of watching

and the "why" turns out to be fucking stupid. I was expecting some shit like "dude I found out I'm really dead and just a copy riding a zombie clone body and I couldn't handle it" or some shit. Not "dang I got high and killed a chick."

It doesn't get better than this, the two other books are horrible.

I've only half watched since that episode. It killed my interest

They must be pretty bad then.

This is such a waste of an interesting setting.

I really enjoyed the show until episode 7 and then it went downhill.
Maybe because I watch a lot of capeshit TV on netflix, but Im so fucking sick of the Female Goody goody detective frenemy trope, its fucking played out.

in the books loading yourself up with biomechanical shit is something only gutter scum, gangsters and military do. Neurachem is much more expensive and subtle and all the meths have it.

They just did a shitty job of showing it in the series.

Please no, I just finished episode 5
I really liked it so far, FU-u-UCK

Sorry m8. Enjoy it while you can

I'm about to start it.

the entire show was just all over the place. somewhat cool concepts and then just lame execution. is the book good?

The "female who can't do wrong" trope in general is embarrassing at this stage. I'm ok with anti heroes. In fact, I'm happier with them. Give me something that makes me think they're human.

Honestly I loved it until ep 7/8, then it nosedived right off a fucking cliff

Book is even worse.

The ability to enjoy it hinges upon how effectively the atrocious writing can be ignored. This becomes impossible at episode 7 and really hard at ep 6.

Granny meth-biker was the best part of the series though. That guy was perfect.

Give me a quick gestalt my friend

damn

poor sarah "suck it asuka" sachilowska. in the book shes his one true waifu. the the show shes an unknown red herring and rei is a yandere imouto best girl.

Pretty much this. The first two episodes had me hooked like no tomorrow but it slowly degraded into this fuckfest of sideplots and filler episodes. They should have kept it to the cirminal kino of the beggining

>muh humanity

The funny thing is, none of them are actually human.
Every kid is implanted with a chip that takes over their bodies when they're 1 year old.

It should have been shorter and maybe it would have avoided all the bullshit.

Fuck TV writers who think being long form means you need to overcomplicate fucking everything

Only really bad actors were Quell, Lizzie, and Ortega. It's ok because you don't see Quell and Lizzie much until the end, Poe makes up for Lizzie's bad acting n their scenes together, and Ortega is qt enough that it doesn't matter to me.

But yeah, the show throws off its comfy noir-ness when Rei becomes the antagonist. I don't think she was Kovacs' sister in the books, so that may have made her a shittier villain. At the same time like other anons here, I really liked her as Kovacs' sister. Maybe they could have added another layer to the story to end it better. As in, as Rei was manipulating Kovacs, maybe Rei in turn was being unwillingly manipulated, maybe by Mrs. Bancroft? I dunno. The way this season ended was something of a disappointment. Also, they should have made more references to 623 or whatever since I forgot all about that.

the book desperately needed some complexity. they just hired retards to write.

That's not at all true, you're just not smart enough to understand them.

>Only really bad actors were Quell, Lizzie, and Ortega. It's ok because you don't see Quell and Lizzie much until the end, Poe makes up for Lizzie's bad acting n their scenes together, and Ortega is qt enough that it doesn't matter to me.
For once, I agree with a post on Sup Forums 100%
Well, it's Netflix, so season 2 is pretty much a given, right? Maybe they'll pick up the pace and redeem themselves with more Poe banters

There were some great moments but there was also a ton of shit to wade through, from what I've heard people saying about the book they should stuck a lot closer to the source material

book 2 is some tacticool shenanigans in Mars over some alien tech. book 3 is kovacs vs some christfags and rich people on new harlan.

and then kovacs becomes a god millenia later

Jesus christ I'm at episode 9 and it's just exposition constantly

Fuck whoever wrote this

>more Poe banters

user, I...

Was the guy's dick in the 2nd episode real or CGI?
Not that I'm insecure or anything haha

I was about to ask this but about Ortega's inhumanly perfect ass

>Spend all that money
>Completely give up on the writing

you see a few more dicks, especially in the last couple of episodes... you think they hire special dick extras for these things, asking for a friend haha

Only one more episode to go, thank fuck.

Sister gets to do her whole fucking monologue then henchmen conveniently appear right when she's finished

Fucking hell they've completely given up

You can tell it's the writers fault.
They spend two episodes on filler and then rush what should be a straight forward ending? Someone fucked up.