is voyager better than ds9? edition
borg girl makes the show so much better
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>is voyager better than DS9?
no
If it comes down to what's sexier then the answer is Voyager, but why bother with that metric? Just watch pornography if you're horny. In terms of succeeding as a television series, DS9 is superior.
If it comes down to what's sexier then the answer is Voyager, but why bother with that metric? Just watch pornography if you're horny. In terms of succeeding as a television series, DS9 is superior.
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also the doctor
I agree the doctor carries most episodes of voyager
just don't look up her nudes
If it comes down to what's sexier then the answer is Voyager, but why bother with that metric? Just watch pornography if you're horny. In terms of succeeding as a television series, DS9 is superior.
Voyager could have been great if it committed to its premise instead of turning into TNG 2 with a worst cast and stale ideas.
It is at its best when it embraces the idea of a starfleet ship lost in an unknown area.
Trekfags, I never watched the series, but I remember watching one episode on television like 13 or so years ago.
The ship was stuck in some sort of groundhog day, the day kept repeating and they kept getting destroyed by an enemy ship.
In the end they finally managed to send a message trough time or something and escape their destruction.
I fucking loved that episode, can anyone direct me to it? I'd love to watch it again. Ever since I catched that I have a thing for time travel stuff in films/series.
Is it true Janeway was a cunt on the set to her?
THE VIRGIN GARRETT
THE CHAD JERI
Isn't that George Lopez's mom?
literal roastie jealous of Jeri Ryan
It's natural. 7 was a huge draw and skyrocketed ratings when she came on.
For me she was the OP Data character the show was missing except she was hot as fuck as well.
how is she so perfect brehs
Fucking crybaby faggot. It's a TV show.
Watching with a quasi-critical eye,I simply cannot take the concept of the Holodeck seriously anymore. At first I started making my Holodeck posts as a joke ("Why don't they call it X instead of a Holodeck? The name is misleading") but I'm starting to get annoyed whenever anyone uses the Holodeck. I just can't stop thinking about all the plot holes, the unbelievable decisions that people make, the fact that it's possible for the technology to work flawlessly while not responding to controls because of some major spatial anomaly, there's so much about the Holodeck that doesn't make even a little bit of sense. And then there's the fucking Doctor. They put a bunch of EMHs in a cave system to mine dilithium or something, but they can't set up holoprojectors around Voyager? Actually, we know that they CAN and DO do this--in that episode with the Hirogen, we see it done, it's the entire plot--and no amount of handwaving can make me believe that there is some reason that makes sense diegetically NOT to have done this before. And the mobile emitter almost never malfunctions; when it does, they can fix it, no problem. It's even more unbelievable than Geordi's ability to operate on Data's positronic brain without actually being a cybernetics genius like Singh was. Why the fuck can't they make more Datas? Why the fuck can't Data experience emotions but Moriarty can? If a Holodeck replicates matter on demand, why can't the replicate and android? Why does that replicated matter lose cohesion when it leaves the Holodeck if it's replicated, rather than projected? Who decided that the Holodeck was a good idea?
please tell me someone made a deepfake of her
easily, I'd rather watch voyager than ds9
Is she part of the Mommy Cinematic Universe?
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>that episode where Paris and Janeway turned into basically peak human evolution lizard things and fucked and she gave birth
i disagree
cause and effect
Not an argument
Threshold. Probably the worst episode ever.
Janeway should've fucked all the male crew members to keep them in line
this needs to be created
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>He's never been cast in a play and had a good relationship with his castmates
loser
Thank you. :)
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Must have had a tit job. She used to have some saggies.
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it's called a push-up bra
egad
What?
>beer
DS9 early season > Voyager > DS9 late seasons
Post Jeri's
wew
pancakes
HOW
finished ds9 a couple weeks ago. on season 1 of voyager now and it's rough going and i'm a bit annoyed i won't see borg slut until season 4
You'll eventually get sick of too much Borg and wish that you had never seen them at all.
Once 7 appears, the writers don't know what they want to do with her. There are basically two 7's, and any one episode could have either of them in it.
Honestly I'd just skip ahead if I were you.
Fug. Need to do damage control.....
*blocks your path*
Nice nipples. Cute face. Questionable beverage.
Her and Marg Helgenberger to be desu
giv choclate milkies
fug. Uhura wasn't utilized enough for her sexiness.
Based milkie poster
>dat skirt on TOS
>Star Trek V feather dance
GIV MORE TREK MILKIEEEES
Star Trek V isn't real, you must have imagined it while drinking too much.
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nearly all the voyager cast is unlikeable or bland, vs ds9 has even better side characters.
There is no Trek as comfy as Voyager.
As comfy as slipping into a coma.
She stole so many roles from the rest of the cast
>bigger logical autist than Tuvok
>hotter than Janeway
>better pilot than Tom
>better engineer than Harry and most likely B'Elanna too
>took the "becoming human" role from the Doctor
What else am I missing?
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i like the beeps and boops of the astrometrics lab
She unofficially stole the captains assistant job out from under Naomi.
>this is somehow bad
TOS is the comfiest, the lack of music, the physical buttons on the consoles and the sound effects all combined make it the comfiest. Plus the mostly male cast
Lies. TNG is objectively the most comfy Trek.
a fact, it's unfailingly watchable
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stop objectifying borgs
>Watching DS9
>S01E12: Battle Lines
>why does this guy sound so familiar?
>wait is that....
>look it up
It's fucking Jonathan Banks! Fucking Mike from breaking bad. Love that guy.
This guy gets it.
Tuco from Breaking Bad is also in an episode of DS9
Tuco was fine too, but Jonathan Banks is just a great actor in general. I mean hell, early DS9 is pretty terrible, but he's doing a great job, even then.
I started watching Enterprise after a friend showed me the first episode. Since it's about the first time humans explored deep space it kind of matches up with my first time watching startrek and we're kind of learning things together. But now there's like a time travel cold war?
That's stupid, nobody in the future would exist to come back in time if the events happening weren't the exact ones supposed to happen.
Time travel never makes sense ever
Temporal shields.
Seven > Jadzia > Ezri > Kira > everyone else. This is the true patrician's answer.
>That's stupid
There is a writer named Brannon Braga who was good at coming up with ideas but bad about nailing down the execution of those ideas. When he had a good co-writer (such as Ron Moore of BSG fame), the two of them produced some of the best stories in Star Trek history. Without the help of a good co-writer though, he turned out trash.
There is an executive producer named Rick Berman who was only good for terrible ideas, such as firing their best composer because the music was too memorable, telling the actors for human characters to act wooden and lifeless, and for trying to avoid character development and serialized plotting because they hurt the resale value for syndication.
Eventually Brannon Braga was promoted to executive producer alongside Rick Berman. Together they worked to keep Voyager mediocre and to run Enterprise into early cancellation. "That's stupid" is, essentially, the entire Berman & Braga era in a nutshell.
That's really interesting. I know the Star Trek fandom is pretty huge so I wonder if that was a disaster everyone saw coming or if it was something people noticed in hindsight.
I've definitely noticed the wooden acting, especially that black man always looks like they have a gun to his head. At first I couldn't tell if it was a joke or if they just rounded up some random actors or what.
Travis is the worst character on ENT
>What's up with Ricks?!
She is also mildly super human due to her remaining implants, as strong (or stronger, I forget, though I think they did fight at least once) as Tuvok, the most physically durable on the crew, and in one of her episodes she beats up Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnon. She also, somehow, is an expert in combat despite being a shambling drone previously. I guess because of the Borg absorbing warrior races.
I love her, she is the best thing about late VOY, but she is the proto stronk womyn, even if its offset mt her actually having flaws and a character arc.
Why did they cancel Enterprise? I actually liked it, honestly, and they have made a lot of the mistakes critiqued in ENT in STD, and if I remember right it might not have had fantastic ratings, but people did watch it.
>Since it's about the first time humans explored deep space it kind of matches up with my first time watching startrek
No it doesn't. You're making a mistake. Enterprise has so many callbacks to previous shows that it doesn't make sense as a stand alone show. It even explicity relies on the movie First Contact having happened, thanks to time travel fuckery.
Idk I wish they didn't we were going to get Shran as a permanent crew member in season 5
Because it was awkward and boring, and nobody watched it. By the time it picked up in the 4th season the die was already cast.
Not yet
DS9 was definitively the worst star trek series until STD came along and bumped it up to second worst
Brannon Braga has a mental disorder that causes him to be obsessed with time travel.
The disaster was coming since 1993 and it was probably unavoidable. DS9 had lower ratings than TNG, Voyager had lower ratings than DS9, and Enterprise had lower ratings than Voyager.
Better writing would not have saved Enterprise. The writers split into 2 groups after TNG, with half going to DS9 and half going to Voyager/Enterprise. The general consensus among hardcore Trekkers is that DS9 had the better group of writers, but that didn't stop DS9 from having terrible ratings. Another general consensus is that the writing on Enterprise improved after Berman & Braga were removed as showrunners and replaced by Manny Coto, but that didn't stop the ratings from dropping further.
Trekkers were just burned out on their own franchise.
A lot of it is hindsight though. Fandom opinions on DS9/Voyager/Enterprise have changed a lot after the rise of DVDs and Netflix changed how we bingewatch and rewatch shows. Serialization is more appreciated now that we don't miss/skip episodes and we only have to remember what we watched last week instead of what we watched last year.
Plus a lot of behind-the-scenes information wasn't available at the time anyway. Interviews done a decade after a show has ended often reveal much more than interviews done at the time did. And Memory Alpha is a great resource for reading up on those tidbits. Did you know that UPN executives wanted popular bands to dress up as aliens and play songs in the mess hall at the end of every Enterprise episode? Berman & Braga fought against that, so please don't leave my posts under the impression that B&B were *completely* evil.
Your path has been blocked by the only good Star Trek female. Say something nice about her and you may pass.
I want her to pick me up and throw me on the bed and wrestle me until morning, but that doesn't make her a good character.
she's actually an old man
>boring
>shit episode magnet
>"Have I told you about Curzon today?"
do you think her nipples takes like dirty pennies?