What y'all's opinion on comicbook artists who have experience (possibly even a start) in porn comics.
Does their history even limit their future work, or really most companies don't care what you previously drawn.
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did she vore him?
Honestly do they even MAKE MONEY off making porn comics? I mean with all the free internet porn I have no clue how ANYONE makes money beyond a horny whale equivalent like those free to play microtransations games.
It must be a pure hobby for them at best.
alt text: Oh, uh. That takes care of that problem, the.
I think most companies care that an artist can do consistently good work on time.
Unless you wanna work for Reader's Digest, having a body of work, even if it's porn, is still a body of work that can go on a resume.
Plus comics have a lengthy history of people writing/drawing porn/smut/erotica/filth.
Nah her mouth is a portal to hell.
Later in the comic she gives him a bj, and a demon inside (who looks like the chick from Power Rangers) tries to use his dick for herself.
oh
Report mod or janitor.
This is a webcomic that is 100% worksafe. Also has been regularly posted here for 4 years.
Tell me more.
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There was talk about Morbi losing interest in Poppy and simply going narration with minor visuals (like that holiday post was).
Was there ever more confirmation on that?
Morbi has revealed that he doesn't like telling the Poppy story in the comic format and is switching to a illustrated novel type format. He said that it will be like the Holiday special, but with ten times the illustrations.
The format switch will happen after the end of Poppy 7, which is in about 6-7 pages.
So 4 months from now?
ZING
it's crazy that Poppy is Morbi first comic, there is a lot of interesting pages but is obvious that he wasn't ready to make a story so big
MA3's kickstarter pulled half A million.
MA3 is hardly porn anymore.
Gary's taking it up the butt on a regular basis but when was the last time ANYONE was shown at least nips revealed topless.
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Hellmouth Imp is my waifu
Usually the only downside to it is that internet dumbasses can't let it go, and will proudly bring it up any time the artist comes up at all. So no discussion about their actual work ever happens.
It's the drawing equivalent of the teacher that used to do porn. If anyone finds out, she may as well move and change her name, because she'll never get any work done or have any upward mobility.
Case in point: this thread.
I wanna bang that alligator mouth stomach chick.
Yeah but the plus side this thread served it's purpose.
So is this thing ever gonna get a sequel?
it's*
fuck
I love the fact that Azumanga Daioh's author made porn
Morbi said that HM2M2 is something he plans on doing. He'll probably work on it after Poppy switches format.
Dragon Head. She's a dragon head that got cut off a dragon and grew legs, arms and a head.
Well at least it'll mean if anyone complains "WHY HE NO LONGER DOES FULL COMIC" we can happily link the reason.
... I can't tell if I like that more or less.
I think, more.
oh...she has an imp boby.....
Baphomet best girl
20lbs of pussy and ass.
not choosing dragon with tits bigger then your whole body for shame
Dragon Succubus is the best.
Not losing interest so much as the Comic format is slowing down his ability to tell the story he wants.
while we'll lose the gorgeous art the light novel format he plans on using will not be devoid of illustration, Morbi has said there will still be a lot of pictures and illustrated sequences, the ext format will allow for more world building exposition and minutia thats hard to express and covey in a visual format
if you dont like the ides of a sexy teddy beard sized girl you can fuck right off
big+lizard+tit=yes
that said im worried that my age combined with the prodigious love of monstergirls this site has bred in me has crippled my ability to form relationships
real girls are great, but dragon* girls ill always have my eye
*also snake/Minotaur/Cerberus/Spinx/any big an monstrous with tits really
Since Hellmouth Imp is in this thread, where is all the fanart of her? Like damn I'm surprised I don't have a bigger folder of her. Morbi really hit the nail with the character.
He's confirmed that he's not completely abandoning the comic format and updates will be in comic format when he feels that it will aid the storytelling
More importantly where's all the art of her friends
That mouthy succubus is certainly something
I'm surprised you almost never see art of her in the /aco/ shortstack threads.
I started drawing the demon with the mouths all over her body because I love that design. Never finished it though.
I'm a porn comic artist myself, and as big a fan I am of both Poppy and Hellmouth, I've got very little time for fanart.
>Morbi's unwillingness to learn to comic format is slowing down his ability to tell the story he wants.
Fixed that for you. The pacing is entirely his own doing.
Dude finish that shit please
Guarantee morbi will reblog you or whatever
You could have the most efficient comic formatting in the world and it would still limit your ability to tell a story of certain length and density compared to simply writing it.
Meh, I think the file's gone. Also I'm no longer on tumblr and Morbi would probably never see it. But maybe I'll try redrawing it in the near future if I can find a way to squeeze it in.
This. I could write hundreds of comic pages in a weekend, but it would take me years to draw. The comic I'm on now I started about a year ago, and I've been exceptionally productive at it. But I'm only about halfway through what I came up with in just a few days. Shit, it's already August.
In a sense that's true, but you also have to consider that you're giving up a lot of tools in how you convey the elements of your narrative. It's fastER, especially to most people since they won't put in the work of writing, rewriting, rerewriting etc their prose, but that doesn't change that he's shown a pretty abysmal grasp of pacing, focus and planning while making this comic. He could have fleshed out his cast and gotten farther into his story with half as many pages, honestly, but the way he approaches his work led to it dragging for him and some of the audience.
It's a shame, because I'd rather see him tighten up his compositions and reassess how he's presenting the story.
>I could write hundreds of comic pages in a weekend
I really don't want to be an ass, but unless you're an awful writer that's nonsense. Even writers in the industry proper with a rather hands-off approach topped out at 2 to 300 pages a month. Shit, even no-effort hacks like Bendis get winded around 150 a month. Even if we assume you only mean a preliminary script before you even sketch a single thumbnail, 100 pages in two days that's NOT vapid, padded bullshit you need to edit down to 40? Fuck off, that's absurd.
He never really liked the comic format so he's going to make it more like the holiday post but with a few more pictures per post and still keep the more traditional comic format for fight scenes.
You talk a big talk, which leads me to believe you've got some work to show for it. Let's see it.
>preliminary script before you even sketch a single thumbnail
Like I said, writing, not drawing.
Bendis works in the cape business, has to collaborate with many other people, and relies on on-going feedback from the audience.
I'm not posting my personal work for likely the same reason
isn't sharing theirs despite adamantly claiming that they can produce that volume of writing in anything approaching quality in just a few days.
If you want me to illustrate a point or something I can totally sketch for you, though. Just tell me what you want me to do.
No thanks, I'd rather draw myself. That's why I've taught myself to draw.
Because we're all cowards who can only talk smack behind a guise of anonymity?
Ooh, nice! Real cutting, I pick up on the implication, don't you worry.
Gonna post your existing art for us?
Nah, you won't. Just like I won't, just like they won't. Because we-
Yeah, that.
So stop with the snide bullshit. You pulled the "post your work" card, I asked what kind of work you'd like. Don't back down, we're all cowards here: tell me what kind of example you're looking for.
>I pick up on the implication
I didn't make an implication. I suppose you think I'm insulting you as an artist, no that wasn't my intent. I've collaborated with better artists than you, I just didn't like how it turned out different than my imagination.
>gonna post your existing art
No, you mongoloid, you've gone and poisoned the well with your childish challenges.
How can you jack off to your own drawings?
Honestly don't you look at it and see all the mistakes you made, all the improper forms, all the eraser marks etc and just lose your boner.
Because let's be honest with ourselves. Either your lying or you don't jack off to your own art.
I don't. I'll sometimes pop a boner when I'm thinking of the situation. But yeah I'm never happy with my art.
>Either you're lying or you don't jack off to your art.
What the fuck led you to think I ever claimed this?
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>I don't. I'll sometimes pop a boner when I'm thinking of the situation. But yeah I'm never happy with my art.
Acceptable.
What kinds of things do you draw user? And Howed you learn cause I'm still dog shit
Okay. I want to see you follow up on your starting criticism.
You made the claim that the comic's cast could be both fleshed out further and the plot could be told in half the existing pages, but you didn't offer constructive reasoning behind that assertion. You didn't describe any ways in which the format could be improved beyond saying there are problems with it.
You're talking like an editor, so I want an editorial opinion.
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>I didn't make an implication.
You know why that's bullshit? Nobody says that they taught themselves to draw apropos of nothing. It has nothing to do with the existing discussion, and the added hostility of randomly insulting me is a dead giveaway.
Cut the bullshit, please.
>you've gone and poisoned the well with your childish challenges.
What challenge?
You asked ME to post MY art. I declined but offered to oblige your request with new art as long as you explained what you wanted. How the fuck is that me offering a childish challenge? How is anyone being challenged in any way by that? Are you nuts?
I can only copy sexy stuff, with drawing original shit i mostly suck. How do i get better at it?
My most successful project has been a furry porn comic.
9/10 or more of what I draw is porn, or scenes setting up for porn. Common fetishes are underage stuff, lesser kinks include pregnancy and related.
>How did you learn to draw.
Blood, sweat and tears. Lots of tears. Hours of practice every day, naturally. You start at the bottom. And you draw as bad as any cringe art people find on dA. I've seen my work mocked on crop threads. I've seen my closest friend and artist I looked up to the most mock my stuff on livestreams, not knowing that I was the artist. I've had to deal with people spamming my inbox telling me to stop drawing. I had a whole huge fandom of people who followed me for my fanfiction drop me entirely. And then I kept doing all that for years and after a few thousand drawings I was slightly less shit. And then I kept doing that. If you're lucky ever knew drawing will be just slightly less shit than the last.
I'd suggest drawing what you like to draw because at least you should have that much. The urge to give it all up is intense and constant.
>cut the bullshit please
I used to only write. I did a fairly big thing with a big name artist, popular here on Sup Forums, where he turned one of my fics into a sort of highly illustrated comic thing with blocks of texts. It turned out pretty good. So then I wrote a comic strip and he drew it.
It didn't turn out the way I had it in my mind. Perhaps because I had written a comic script format instead of a more normal prose, and was thus less descriptive.
Thus I decided that, while I was still interested in producing comics, I should just go ahead and make my own, entirely my own.
The world doesn't revolve around you.
>You asked me to post my art.
No I didn't. I care neither about your art nor your opinions on writing.
thanks
pretty sure the others are too busy fapping to tell you that
i dont know about drawing, but as someone who written smut ive had to take a wank break or two while writing if only cause i concentrate a lot on the details which means im thinking a lot of about sex stuff
which is something i dont tell my commissioners even if it think its a sign of good smut
I appreciate the kind response and willingness to talk, but I'm gonna need a minute to actually compile this in something resembling a coherent and useful manner.
>really most companies don't care what you previously drawn.
Correct.
The current artist for Aquaman got his name for a lesbian BDSM story.
The current artist for Green Arrow is well known for his stories named "Innocent Dickgirls".
If you have talent, they don't give a a shit. Maybe they'll ask you to hold it for a bit while you're name is on the covers of their books.
Adventure Quest's main artist had to change his display name because one of the top result associated with his name on google was a violent porn animation he made.
Fred Perry changed the name for the page where he posts his porn so people could search his name and keep it clean.
>so people could search his name and keep it clean.
for given value of "clean"
his long running money maker comic is a VERY cheesecakey action comic.
And he got his start drawing fap material for his buddies during Desert Storm, trading it for stuff like candy and toilet paper.
If you post it here or on Twitter he'll see it
So first off, I gotta split my two claims apart because they each have a different method of being realized.
While "half" is hyperbole, you could easily cut your comic down quite significantly. One of the big things I see is trios of pages that look like stretched out duos and two pages that read more like one page pulled out a bit long. Pic related.
Now, I get it. Some of it's to give an update a punch, some of it might even be just trying to get the page out in something resembling the schedule, but it's so frequent that it'd be more productive to bite the bullet and par it down occasionally. Like, half of the first page in this sequence is beat panels and gags. The main purpose seems to be to push exposition forward, but it's so halting that it doesn't really do that too effectively. The abbreviated version of the first part of the first page on the right is an example of how you could trim things down: all you really miss out on is the gag of Poppy not knowing what a sauna is, really. Thing is, it'd be more effective as the end of the page preceding this, but I *REALLY* don't have the time right now to edit down this entire chapter in sequence just to give you examples of what I'm trying to convey here, unfortunately.
This isn't even saying "jeez Morbi why don't you just cut EVERYTHING DOWN WOW" because doing this in excess would read terribly and lose your voice as an artist. Hell, I think the panel of Kit kicking the candle into the water should have been a splash page (not for the pun), it would have looked great. But, for the sake of expediency and ESPECIALLY when moving things along for the plot, it's good to just condense sometimes so you don't end up bogging yourself down and taking several weeks longer just to get things across.
(cont)
Second is more of a matter of the way in which the plot is delivered.
Personally, I've felt the last few chapters haven't been as effective as the first three (1, 2 and 4) and ewe-lala's story. These operated in a nice little framework where you had a simple primary plotline (Poppy and Lilly head out and Pop eventually heads around looking for a job etc, Tuna and Poppy meet up with Mary and Poppy enters a tourney, Poppy meets with the queen but suddenly Poda) with the overarching narrative advancing in the background. I'd chalk my dislike for "3" and 5 up to personal taste, but 6 and 7 move into the overarching plot just being presented more directly. As a result, at least in my opinion, this leads to both chapters feeling like a LOT of plot progression just being dumped on the audience instead of organic storytelling. I think both of them would be better suited in the old framework.
Like, this chapter would have been far more interesting if a large chunk of it was Poppy and Kit actually involved together in some other misadventure in the mold of the other ones while Freddy ended up uncovering this whole shebang and the chapter ended with Poppy and Kit's little disagreement on the last few pages. Now, it's not done, I could be totally wrong, but to me seeing 6 and 7 in that framework (and 3 and 5 leaning more heavily on interaction and development with the supporting cast than they did) would add far more substance to the cast while making the story more enjoyable to watch progress, as well as offering opportunities to further other plot elements organically at the same time.
Hopefully this rambling mess wasn't a waste of your time. It's the best I can do without making a gigantic point-for-point overview of four whole chapters of your comic.
>been this long without a response from Morbi
I'm going to have to agree with you that it's a matter of taste, as I've always preferred writing in which the main plot thread chills in the background and then suddenly comes smashing through to complicated everyone's lives, and Poppy was always intentionally written as such.
I've never once considered any of the stories (Lala aside, hers was a breather side story and explicitly labelled as such) to be self-contained, they're more like the chapters in a novel than arcs in a comic or cartoon. Even chapter 2 picks up immediately where Poppy and Petunia leave off in chapter 1.
As far as your first point goes, yeah, I admit I love beat panels and short sequences that only serve to add extra jokes.
I also make a point of using a much higher average of panels per page than most comics (rarely ever fewer than 7, often as high as 12), so I personally feel I can afford to waste a couple here and there.
user there are tons of people who make a living off of patreon and kickstarters.
>Minor character about to make themselves maybe useful
woo!
Hallia makes blueprints of places she's been in. I'm betting she has one of Chicadino's house and Poppy is gonna use it to find Charlie.
Hey Morbi, since you might still be here, can I get a clarification if any of Lily's shitscribbles were a reference to Tegaki?
--- would suggest so
Don't use twitter and this thread will be long gone by the time I finish. I suppose I could post it in a Poppy thread though.
That one single drawing of Kit was, yeah
you know id argue that the high concentration of panels and using them for gags and embellishments works combined with the flowing nature of the story for Poppy as a webcomic.
reading it page by page as we have make it so you can take in all those little gags and gems on the page as you read it week by week. but as you read it all at once they are rarely distracting enough to take away from absorbing the story as it goes.
that said as someone with ADHD i may not be qualified for what counts as distracting or not
Carefully managing where each page starts and ends and how much information you can realistically fit into each is the hardest part of formatting this sort of comic, because each page is read one at a time, even for archival readers. You can't afford to continue a thought between pages without it feeling unnatural, unless it's to create tension.
Four years in, and managing dialogue in relation to page density and panel/character placement is still maybe the most hellish part of drafting the comic. I'll be glad to have them separated from each other.
Well, I'm sorry that I wasn't any help to you then. I appreciate that you were willing to read all that garbage.
Tegaki is amazing and deserves all the praise they get.
also that yeah
each page stands very well on its own while also flowing into the next naturally enough to feel like a coherent story.
i look forward to seeing where the story goes
also what smut morbi makes next, i really enjoy your art and smut its super good. though ive noticed that the Mercury patreon has been on pause for a good bit
I think innovative page layout is highly overrated. Neathery has done just fine with the same standard four panel layout every page for years.
Are you taking requests
Newspaper style has its benefits, mostly in that you never ever have to worry about formatting the panels, but it also has hard limits that would drive me crazy.
Primarily, the four-panel rhythm can often break up conversations in ways that actually end up prolonging them by necessitating repeating a statement to setup the new strip. It's also just plain slow, even with a consistent update.
Hey morbi when are we getting more porn
Right but you can also do 6 or 8 panel pages or whatever, and once the pattern is in your mind you can manipulate the conversation in just the right way to fit the same repeated format more easily. You form a consistent rhythm, like jumping rope.
probably after the format switch
wonder if we'll get any of Buha...
Buha is a 32 year old virgin. Unless we get some masturbation shots I don't think she's gonna be getting freaky with anyone soon. In addition, I don't see her first time as being anything other than a complete fucking lol disaster.
Fuck that. I'm talking about hellmouth. That shit is literally the best porn ever written.
Other people being shit at paneling and not using enough doesn't mean shit to you
sauce
Read the fucking thread arsehole
>Unless we get some masturbation shots
that exactly what ive been hoping for
hell ive even thought up some fapfics, of her becoming enamored by her young wards "dark" and "deep" artsy older brother and using her own over thought over detailed method of determining which of her dildos to best use to represent him in her own fantasies
...I'm just think about stuff like "Buha tries to use her head arms to masturbate but is too fat too reach".