The top didn't stop spinning at the end of the movie because it was all still a dream...

The top didn't stop spinning at the end of the movie because it was all still a dream. The actual inception was for and going on inside Cobb's mind. The other characters were a highly skilled group of psychologists with an elaborate plan, working to help Cobb finally overcome the loss of his wife. And they succeeded.

Wrong.

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PROTIP: It literally doesn’t matter if it's reality or a dream.

You people care only about the simple surface-level narrative and plot point closures.
In the final scene Cobb spins the totem but he doesn't even look at it because he doesn't care, he just wants to be with his kids no matter is it real or not.
It's always the same unimportant questions, "who is the shooter" in The Hunt, "who sent the tapes" in Cache, "was it waterboarding or rape" in Sicario etc. If you asked any director these kind of questions they would be disappointed.
Tell me what changes if you know if everything was a dream or not? What knowledge do you get out of that fact?

Movies aren't puzzles which you have to put together in a certain kind of way to "get" them, that would be pretty shallow. Focus on why is something shown in that way rather than what it is.

>taking jarjar abrams tier bait
just stop it faggot

''Movies aren't puzzles which you have to put together in a certain kind of way to "get" them, that would be pretty shallow. Focus on why is something shown in that way rather than what it is.''
This is why people are loving poorly written movies like cloverfield paradox right?

Exactly, spot on.

Yeah, let's end all movies by saying it was all a dream because it doesn't matter if the story happened or not right?

This is you

No retard. He's saying thematically the ending isn't ambiguous at all. You guys are just sperging about trying to "figure it out"

For the character, the ending isn't ambiguous
For the audience, it is
retard

No, that's entirely you.
>because it doesn't matter if the story happened or not right
Who said that? The story most definitely happened, trying to figure out if it's a dream or not doesn’t change literally anything about the story. Why do you think Cobb doesn’t even look at the totem?
This is all confirmed multiple times by Nolan, he didn’t make that ending so only a secret underground patrician dissecting club can get a singular "true" answer. The question you're asking is just like if you ask yourself now is the life you're living real or not, it really doesn't matter for Cobb since the only thing he wants is to be with his kids, no matter is it a dream or not

I'm saying thematically. You think Nolan's intention was to be like "HEHE SO SNEAK DA AUDIENCE WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT DA TRUE ENDING IS UNTIL I RELEASE DIRECTOR'S CUT"

(You)

A fraction of a second before it cuts you can hear the top stumble.

Nope, factually wrong

the top wasn't his totem, his wedding band was, you can see he's wearing it only in the dream scenes.

No you.

Well said mate fucking idiots everywhere

This is a great film not matter how much you take it a oart or accept it at face value. 9 thumbs up from me

>two womyn
>highly skilled group of psychologists
lmao

>because it doesn't matter if the story happened or not right

no it doesnt, its a fucking movie.

A fuckload of exposition man, really far too much. That Ariadne character is literally a pure exposition machine

The spinner was his wife's totem. His real totem was the wedding ring, which he appears wearing only during dreams. In the end he's not dreaming.

no that's ridiculous. Just because it doesn't matter for the character or resolution of the story doesn't change the fact within the universe of the story he was either dreaming or he wasn't and speculating about it is a completely natural and normal response. Just because people are interested in it doesn't mean they are somehow idiots who misunderstood the story and the director leaving it ambiguous is not some indication that means we have to completely disregard the topic. You guys are sound retarded trying to act smarter than everyone else when all you are doing is disregarding the topic for no reason. also see

Wasn't the top originally his waifus totem?

Wrekt.

I recall the top spinning the stumbling very briefly but then recovering and spinning perfectly.

Thanks for reminding me that this dross exists OP, you prick.

>Just because people are interested in it doesn't mean they are somehow idiots who misunderstood the story
No one said that, you are free to discuss it and even think whatever you want to think about it, but to claim that there is one singular universal answer that Nolan certainly intended and everything else being wrong is absurd. The implication that knowing if it's real or not is extremely important or that it changes the film at all is the problem here.

>claim that there is one singular universal answer that Nolan certainly intended and everything else being wrong is absurd. The implication that knowing if it's real or not is extremely important or that it changes the film at all is the problem here
no one said that and no. It would change the film if he was still in a dream because it's more likely that his trouble aren't over in that situation and that the happy ending won't last.

Anyway just because nolan didnt straight up tell us doesn't mean he didn't construct that film with a definitive answer, it just means he's not an idiot who would spoil the fun.

you really are dumb.

>It would change the film if he was still in a dream because it's more likely that his trouble aren't over in that situation and that the happy ending won't last.
How? You can live in a limbo for decades right? You can look for Nolan's answer to this question with a simple google search user, there is no definitive answer, films are not shallow puzzles. But you keep living in your surface-level delusion if you want.
Also nice reddit spacing.

shut the fuck up bitch

>movies are puzzles

>movies aren't puzzles

lol

Ahh I see, delusion it is.

THEN. WHO. WAS. PHONE

he didn't say there was no definitive answer, he just wasn't going to tell people that because it would ruin the fun and he talked about the perception of reality, he did nothing to say their was no definitive answer you just keep parroting what he said like it makes you smart when it does nothing to prove your adamant belief that the story was made with no definitive answer to this question.

You really don't see how the ending would be bad if he was still in a dream? Besides the fact that reality is completely different in the dreams and we've already seen how his own negative thoughts and emotions can manifest physical danger, what the fuck happens when he wake up in 50 years and realizes that all the time he thought he was with his kids he wasn't and his kids growing up without him and he's still hopelessly separated from them?

Like I said, you are an idiot. Also, I don't give a fuck that Sup Forums thinks paragraphs are bad because that's stupid too.

>we've already seen how his own negative thoughts and emotions can manifest physical danger,
Mal is no longer a problem
>what the fuck happens when he wake up in 50 years and realizes that all the time he thought he was with his kids he wasn't and his kids growing up without him and he's still hopelessly separated from them
He clearly doesn’t care, if he cared about this he would look at the totem, but he doesn’t, he just wants to be with his kids, no matter what it is.

And funny how you ignore everything that Nolan says about subjective reality just because he doesn’t say directly "yeah man there are no answurzzz"

The main plot of inception is actually a cheap narrative trick to hide the underlying fact that the entire movie is a dream meant to brainwash the real target: Joseph Gordon Levitt, aka Arthur, AKA ROBIN.

Think about it. It's no coincidende that certain actors play pivotal roles on both movies. There's a bigger scheme underneath, possibly the biggest since the silent era

Inception is then, the real intended prequel of The Dark Knight Rises, bravo nolan

nolan confirmed for not a hack

>You people care only about the simple surface-level narrative and plot point closures.
this and Mullholland dr make fun of movie watchers and even explain it in full detail.

the top as a totem makes no sense, given the logic of the movie
your suppose to pick an object that has a property that only you know about - like the weight of it is distributed in a special way. if the object was recreated in a dream, the dreamer wouldn't know this special property, so you could check your object and know your in a dream
so why does that top never stop spinning? how does that make sense?

nigga the top was mal's totem. cobb replaced it with one that never stopped