Why do so few directors bother with practical effects anymore?
Pic related managed to have better effects in 1982 than most films these days do.
I get CGI is necessary for somethings, like compositing and such. I can also enjoy heavy CGI, but will always prefer practical effects.
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Because CGI is easier, costs less money and can be changed during editing. It is the special effects for the lazy and uncreative.
Studios probably have a spendy cgi department or contract they want to get their moneys worth from.
It's funny how back in the day it was the other way around.
>tfw Sup Forums made me watch this shitty remake
Wait, which one are you referring to, the 1982 one, or the 2011 one?
Liking the 1982 one is a fucking meme. The 2011 one is even worse
What didn't you like about the 1982 one?
Lots of directors still use practical effects
Studios found that if they made a film flash enough with CGI most people would ignore the horrible story and acting. However, after decades of abusing CGI audiences are desensitized to it. The studios simply haven't caught on to it despite falling ticket sales.
>didn’t like 1982 one
I’m genuinely curious, it’s got some overly gory scenes but the paranoia stuff and character development is kino af. What didn’t you like?
Not enough.
What a fucking joke. You are probably not even a man.
watch the void dingus
What is bad about the 1982 movie?
the studio that did the practical effects for the thing 2011 made a video answering this question
Link?
say ahhhhh
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These are only a couple problems I have with the movie
>special effects
They don't hold up nowadays. The Alien film was released 3 years before this and it still holds up today
Compare this: youtube.com
to this: youtu.be
>plot holes
If the doctor could get out of the shed and build an entire emergency ship underneath the ground, why didn't he take the time to eliminate the characters one by one as they left the base? He eventually did that in the last 10 minutes of the film as they were blowing the base up. Why not eliminate the characters and then build the ship? That way he could build it in peace.
Why didn't Palmer attack the rest when he knew he was about to be found out with the blood test? He would have only had to have taken out one person instead of two since they were all tied up.
80% of Norwegians speak english, why didn't he just tell them?
UFO buried 100,000 year? But its under 6 feet of ice.
see kids this is what happens when you consume too much soy
>80% of Norwegians speak english, why didn't he just tell them?
This is idiotic. If the guy falls in the 20%, he does not speak english.
>If the doctor could get out of the shed and build an entire emergency ship underneath the ground, why didn't he take the time to eliminate the characters one by one as they left the base?
That guy just dig his place and started building.
Is the weakest part of the movie but the Thing is very alien so the fact that THAT thing had a plan to fuck off makes sense.
Probably is a nod to some aspect of one of the space species absorbed resurfacing, too.
In fairness, the other Xeno effects in Alien weren't great. The facehugger was good too, but the big Xeno had to be hidden all the time cos he just looked like a 7 foot tall black dude with a banana head. Which made the movie far scarier, but doesn't hold up as well.
The Thing has great effects all the way through, and had some crazy animatronics (Spider Head?).
And as for plot holes;
> He probably wanted to let them bugger about and divide themselves, so he could build his ship in peace. He probably thought they'd be too preoccupied with their paranoia to bother him.
> None of them knew the blood test thing would work, like Palmer-Thing hoped his blood would chill out and play it cool. They were separate entities by that time.
> Well, the sequel cleared it up, he was one of the 20% who don't speak English. But the real reason is for the plot to happen. Funnily enough, his Norwegian is accurate, if you understand it.
> Wasn't it under like 50 or so? The picture they find shows a big ass hole.
>UFO buried 100,000 year? But its under 6 feet of ice.
We don't know which movement such ice was subjected to. Also we see these people carrying thermite as if is candies, so they probably worked the zone quite a bit.
If you need to use any kind of effects then your movie is shit regardless
>If the doctor could get out of the shed and build an entire emergency ship underneath the ground, why didn't he take the time to eliminate the characters one by one as they left the base?
the doctor was only a thing for a few hours at that point. he was just getting started, building the ship while probably assuming Palmer thing would kill the rest. also he was waiting for people to come out one by one, and DID take them out one by one.
>Why didn't Palmer attack the rest when he knew he was about to be found out with the blood test
why do you think it would know it would be found out?
>80% of Norwegians speak english, why didn't he just tell them?
this was 1982. probably less than 50% knew english. is it that crazy a non-english speaker cant speak english?
>UFO buried 100,000 year? But its under 6 feet of ice.
the sun melts ice if its on metal ya brainlet
(some) good practical effects, but the movie is reddit-core
The contrarian brigade has arrived to nitpick and acquire
>you's
The Thing has been so long a beloved movie in 4ch that I am surprised this did not happened before.
80% of Americans speak english, spanish being 12%
I'll give you spiderhead being cool, but I think the dog for example should have stuck to the shadows, it's a cool concept, but falls short for me. Similar to Jaws, you barely see the shark, but the suspense is still there
yeah probably, but it still I would think it would have been deeper. I know Ice cores are around 10,000 feet for 100,000 years
>why do you think it would know it would be found out?
We just saw it's head act independently and how it responded to fire. It would probably be smart enough to know that's what would happen
>Why didn't Palmer
“You’ve got to be fucking kidding!”
The Thing self-awareness is debatable.
>80% of Americans speak english, spanish being 12%
I don't even understand what you are meaning here, but if there were like, 10 norwegians, at least one speaking english would have made sense, and the opposite would have broken suspension of disbelief.
But ONE random Norwegian not speaking it makes sense.
>We just saw it's head act independently and how it responded to fire. It would probably be smart enough to know that's what would happen
that was different, both the heads were splitting anyway, used the fire as a cover to separate
>yeah probably, but it still I would think it would have been deeper.
This is a pointless nitpicking. It would have added nothing to the movie being full realistic.
We don't know how they dig it up. They found it and shit happened. Is not needed for the movie.
The funny thing about the Dog-Thing is that that was done by Stan Winston, cos the dude who did all the other effects had to go to hospital for exhaustion. Rob Bottin was only 22 when he did the effects for it.
I think it was just keeping it's cover. Or it was legit shocked that it was being so blindingly obvious in it's attempt to escape, that it voiced it.
No women
I always thought it was just fucking its friend-thing over so the group would trust him more
Pretty much. Probably as punishment for being so retarded and thinking it could escape like that.
Paul Verhoeven said that Rob Bottin was probably the best artist working in Hollywood when he was there. Not the best effects guy, the best artist.
He did a pretty fantastic job for a 22 year old nobody.
We should all acknowledge that the contrarians fled as soon as their specious bullshit was called out.
Return to talking about this masterpiece of effects and atmosphere.
what do you mean by this?
This was like 10 years later after they teamed up for Robocop and Total Recall. Bottin earned his stripes user, he's put in some great work after The Thing.
Oh shit I didn't know he worked on those.
>80% of Americans speak English
Are you implying Norwegians are fucking Americans? You have no idea what you're even complaining about anymore.
>did like the 1982 remake
Let me guess, you're a woman who is pissed there's no Mary Sue to self insert as.
There are going to be plot holes in every sci fi horror film. The whole point is to suspend disbelief. Being so nit picky about it is absurd and will put you on cinema sins level. Petty drivel spewed out just to be contrarian. No movie is perfect, but the thing is a damn good one.
Man, fuck Cinema Sins.
>Just turn off your brain, bro
You don't get it. Too kino for you.
i watched original RoboCop and i think it used practical affect, and it was FUKING GLORIOUS EYE CANDY.
same effects guy did robocop and the thing
same reason why weebs jerk off to anime babes instead of learning to interact with real women
In 1991 some dude made a joke saying practical effects were gay and from that moment everyone was embarrasd to use them
GET THE FLAMER
It's not even turning your brain off. It's just not going out of your way to find lame excuses for plotholes
Why does the Things kills all living beings? Why can’t the Thing live in peace with life? Also where does the Thing comes from?
not all scenes hold up, but the dog transformation scene at the beginning and several others are really good still
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>Are you implying Norwegians are fucking Americans?
If not even all americans speak English how is that a random Norwegian HAS to speak english, even when in a shock state while hunting the Thing. There is also the fact that the dude maybe didn't know if the base was from USA, Argentina or whatever other country.
Alien isn't anywhere close to the thing. In alien everyone acts like total retards.
As most have said it's easier and cheaper.
I prefer practical effects but most "consumers," don't really care and just want the craziest visuals possible.
the thing isn't any specific alien. it's a virus/parasite that kills and copies the host organism at the cellular level until the entire creature has been taken over. as the original cells are killed they are replaced by 'thing' cells. eventually nothing of the original organism remains, just a copy made of 'thing' cells. the intelligence of the thing depends on the size of the creature it copied (human copies show exceptional intelligence where as the dog-thing and smaller copies behave more on instinct alone like animals).
the prequel was supposed to explain its origin, the alien ship they originally found in the ice was to have many alien samples on board (kind of like a scientific vessel that went around the universe collecting alien lifeforms) among which was a 'thing' alien which broke free and started taking everything over.
the ship itself was piloted by a different alien creature, which itself got killed by the thing, but not before it could crash land the ship onto earth. the whole thing was cut from the prequel by retarded studio executives. you can find the pilot alien creature on google.
Who is this young boi?