Will we ever witness true lovecraftian kino in our lifetime?

will we ever witness true lovecraftian kino in our lifetime?

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Not while niggers continue to breathe.

Literature > Movies

I never wish to see a movie version of a novel or storie after i read it.

"literature" is just screenplays, it's a script to be made into a movie, but they want a way to sell it while its still in script form, so that's why they made books out of them. Even before film they did this with plays

there are a few who wanted in on the literature meme without realizing it was all for movies, and wrote, without that intention, but they are mostly retarded anyways to make such a mistake

> "Save for a few Triangle, Pramount & Vitagraoh pictures, everything I have seen is absolute trash [...] I have yet to see a serial film worth the time wasted in looking at it - or dozing over it. The technique could be surpassed by most ten year old children."

Lovecraft

yeah well lovecraft was retarded and so are his dumb books and his whole genre so that proves my point

>Dude, white people are racist, and that's scary.

I bet you love the works of Stephenie Myer

no, not sure why you'd say that

I love people who do pastiches of Lovecraft, They cant even get his formula right. Many have tried including Neil Gaiman and Stephen King and all have been substandard at best.

Im excluding writers like Clark Ashton Smith and Robert E. Howard who brought their own flavour to weird fiction.

what happened to his face. looks like he did the kardashian lip challenge but with the whole face

>People misusing the terms Lovecraftian and confusing it with Eldritch

I wish nerd culture never discovered Lovecraft. I really fucking do.

Lovecraft is garbage. Lowbrow-literature for brainlets

>drawing Lovecraft chilling with his creations when the man was terrified of everything but Anglo-saxons and cats
Why do redditors do this?

Only if someone can ever answer this question

How do you depict "unimaginable terror" in a visual form?

Bloodborne, niggAaaaa.

Keep it away from the illiterate masses.

>"In essence, Lovecraft's argument is that the cat is the pet of the artists and thinker, while the dog is the pet of the stolid bourgeoisie. "The dog appeals to cheap and facile emotions; the cat to the deepest founts of imagination and cosmic perception in the human mind." This leads inevitably to a class distinction that is neatly summed up in the compact utterance: "The dog is a peasant and the cat is a gentleman.""

Stephen King's "Jerusalem's Lot" is pretty good, although highly derivative of "The Rats in the Walls" and "The Haunter of the Dark".

>Guillermo del taco tried to make At the Mountains of Madness adaptation
>No studios would support it
>feelsbad

Bloodborne is just a terrible DMC clone

I don't know how the Lovecraft "unimaginable terror" meme got started. In his best stories, he generally describes weird creatures with a high level of visual detail. It's only in his weaker, more obscure stuff that there's a lot of "indescribable, unimaginable..."

> muscular hero
> love interest
> professor who studies the old ones and explains everything to the audience
> full cgi monster reveal
> generic versions of Lovecrafts creations
> sympathy for the monsters (if Del Toro directs)

Anything i missed from a big budget version of Lovecrafts tales?

I just somehow know it would have sucked. As soon as I heard Tom Cruise was wanted for the lead... I mean, I'll give Cruise credit for his work, but there's no way that doesn't pull the audience right out of immersion. And I get the sense that del Toro would use too much schlocky action horror and too little slow brooding subtle horror.
I'd love to be wrong, of course...

muh monsters

Lovecraft isn't even about monsters.

To be fair, sympathy for the monsters is part of some of Lovecraft's stories already. But yeah, there's a good chance Del Toro would make it a different kind of sympathy than what's in the stories.

There already is. Cloverfield and its sequels are basically Lovecraftian. In the first movie, it was just about a monster. Now it's about multiple dimensions and zany nu-physics.

This is what his version would have looke like based on the script.

you and me both user. even worse when some random faggot mentions cthulhu and tentacles and thinks that's all lovecraft is

Ugh. I haven't read the script, but I believe it. Now of course, I understand that if you want your movie to sell tickets, you might have to make some compromises... but somehow I get the sense that Del Toro wouldn't make a proper Lovecraft film even if he had complete creative freedom and didn't have to care about money. I'm not even really sure why I have that impression - probably from Hellboy.

>I don't know how the Lovecraft "unimaginable terror" meme got started. In his best stories, he generally describes weird creatures with a high level of visual detail.

But that's the problem, when you show the creature in movies that generally when all the fear gets sucked out of the movie. We can easily create a create described in Lovecraft, but it wouldn't be scary, because it would just be a CGI piece of crap we've seen 100 times before.

would be pretty hard to beat The Thing and Alien
non-lovecraft horror movies can't even beat them easily

Yes. See: youtube.com/watch?v=HHCdRCNJl9w

In Lovecraft's best stuff, the horror often comes not so much from the creatures, as from what their existence implies for humanity - namely, that humanity is merely one, fairly weak and trivial player on the stage of existence, and there are other things with a higher level of intelligence and civilization out there.
So perhaps to try to make the creatures extremely scary in themselves would be a mistake. I mean, it should get some attention - I think either practical effects or extremely well-done CGI should be used. No video game looking crap! But it shouldn't be the main focus. The main focus should be on the creatures' trans-human level of power, ability, and civilization.
Take Alien, for example. Yes, the xeno is scary - but at the end of the day there's no reason to think it has hyper-human intelligence. It seems that if the Nostromo's crew had been better armed and trained, they could have dispatched it without too much trouble.
What's *really* fucking scary about Alien is that landing on the planetoid, and the slow approach to the crashed ship, and the "space jockey" inside... also, the music and cinematography and visual FX that effectively make you feel a sort of enormous loneliness in the vastness of space and the smallness of humanity. What the "space jockey"'s existence implies is more frightening on a deep level than the xeno is.
If someone wants to make a good "At the Mountains of Madness", I think these are the sorts of things that should be pondered.

>In Lovecraft's best stuff, the horror often comes not so much from the creatures, as from what their existence implies for humanity - namely, that humanity is merely one, fairly weak and trivial player on the stage of existence, and there are other things with a higher level of intelligence and civilization out there.

That's what the stories are about. It's the whole point of cosmic horror

Yep. I remember that one time some user, in the context of discussing Predator 2, said something like this: "Imagine you're a lion being hunted by a 19th century British guy. The British guy himself is scary, but he's just a creature. You could conceivably kill him. What's really scary is that there's a whole Empire that exists which is the reason why that guy is there in the first place."

I read one draft and it was basically half Frankenstein, half The Thing. Ship in the arctic stumbles upon this man nearly dead wandering around and they pick him up. Once he regains consciousness he tells them the story of his initial expedition and what they saw there. Most of Mountains stays intact, there's huge albino penguins and shoggoths and the unknown thing beyond the mountains they merely glimpse at the end. I guess the biggest change is that the shoggoth is basically The Thing, it can assimilate people and pretend its them. The movie ends with the other explorer (Danford in the book) dying and being replaced by a shoggoth, and now this human-shoggoth is making his way towards civilization.

Part of why it wasn't funded is that the studio demanded more action than the script had and a love interest to make it marketable (considering Guillermo wanted a big budget and an R rating). I guess he figured having Tom Cruise and James Cameron on board would help him, but the studio wouldn't budge. Also Prometheus happened and wasn't a huge hit, and that kinda killed it too

>sympathy for the monsters is part of some of Lovecraft's stories already.
The only ones I can think of regarding that would be "The Outsider," "Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath," and "At the Mountains of Madness."

In "The Shadow out of Time", the beings are depicted as, although cruel to other races, having a higher level of civilization than our own. Not sure if that counts as sympathy, though.

Fair point.