Iron Man and and Incredible Hulk imply Stark is helping Fury put together the Avengers

>Iron Man and and Incredible Hulk imply Stark is helping Fury put together the Avengers
>Iron Man 2 and every movie since then ignores this

>Thor destroys the Bifrost to add consequence to the movie. He has to lose Jane forever to save the Frost Giants.
>Avengers shits all over this with Odin's "dark magic" and Thor 2 repairs the Bifrost offscreen

>Thor 1 implies Loki is manipulating Selvig
>This is ignored in Avengers

>Stark builds Avengers tower but nobody uses it until Age of Ultron

>Avengers and Shield are absent in Iron Man 3

>Avengers are absent in Thor 2 and Winter Soldier

>AoU ignores the entire plot of Iron Man 3

>AoU ignores Black Widow and Nick Fury going into hiding in Winter Soldier

>AoU ignores Banner having control over the Hulk

>Civil War ignores Iron Man quitting the Avengers in AoU

>Civil War has Ant Man deciding to become a fugitive from the government despite spending his movie trying to be with his daughter

>Avengers are absent during all the magic fuckery going on in Doctor Strange

>Thor is on Earth in Doctor Strange when he was last seen heading to Asgard in AoU

>The blob shit on Earth from Guardians Vol.2 was never brought up despite happening in 2014

>Homecoming is non-canon

>Homecoming says Stark is building equipment for Cap thus negating all the consequences of Civil War

>Civil War says Stark and Pepper broke up but they're getting married in Homecoming

>Black Panther implies the world thinks Wakanda is a shithole despite that not being the case in all previous movies

>Infinity War has Star Lord with his mask despite it being destroyed in vol.2, Rhodey in his armor despite being crippled in CW, Winter Soldier with his arm despite losing it in CW, Spider Man wearing the Iron Spider despite him rejecting it in Homecoming, and stupid Hulk despite him being smart in Ragnarok


Interconnected cinematic universe my fucking ass.

>Iron Man and and Incredible Hulk

Anyone with half a brain noticed this back in 2012.

You clearly haven't put in the effort to piece any of it together

>he doesn't read the comics and watch the one-shots and TV shows

Those are non-canon

>Rhodey in his armor despite being crippled in CW, Winter Soldier with his arm despite losing it in CW
In a concept art poster

>stupid Hulk despite him being smart in Ragnarok
Literally 0 evidence of this

With Star Lord's mask he could just build another. Heroes get their gear torn up all the time.

>Avengers are absent during all the magic fuckery going on in Doctor Strange

What?

There was barely anything happening on a non-magic point of view. The shit that perhaps did get noticed in the "public" was small scale.

>bigger fights were happening in the mirror world which is unseen from the normal world
>hospital fuckery was happening in the astral dimension
>Dormammu invasion was rewinded with the Time Stone

my ttg/DC bashing thread gets taken down but this weak ass bait stays? fucking dc fanboy mods.

>In a concept art poster

MCU concept art is always very accurate to the final product.

>>Thor 1 implies Loki is manipulating Selvig
>>This is ignored in Avengers
Uhh no it isn't?

I hope you're baiting with this particular image

>Literally 0 evidence of this

Smart Hulk clearly takes on a facial structure more similar to Mark Ruffalo. The Hulk seen in the IW concept art is clearly him in his savage state.

The real thing that bugged me was
>Nobody uses Avengers Tower, not once
>In Age of Ultron they move to the compound thing
>In Homecoming, three years later, the compound is apparently new and they are moving out of Avengers Tower, before the audience even got to ever see the Avengers LIVE there

How is that bait?

>Rhodey in his armor despite being crippled in CW

And this is a problem how?

So the Avengers didn't mobilize when the Dark Dimension was clearly invading Hong Kong? It took Strange a bit of a while to get there.

I think he is just expressing these things that come in different forms, called "emotions"

>In a concept art poster

Yeah because concept art is totally not an indicator of how the movie will be huh?

So your problem is that isn't lunging in that EXACT way? The fact that the concept of Bucky punching the shield made it to the film means nothing to you?

For what I heard, the entire scene was just around 30 minutes in universe.

Is your reading comprehension broken? I posted that image and the concept art image to prove that MCU concept art is always very accurate to the final product.

Honestly thought you were being sarcastic here . My bad.

Didn't that get erased because of the whole I'VE COME TO BARGAIN timefuckery?

Emotions dont change your entire facial structure.

>Iron Man 2 and every movie since then ignores this

>makes a list of continuity errors
>doesn't bother to watch all the canon material

>Infinity War has Star Lord with his mask despite it being destroyed in vol.2,
He gets another one.

>Rhodey in his armor despite being crippled in CW
I'm sure the suit can compensate for that.

>Winter Soldier with his arm despite losing it in CW
His arm was partially vibranium, no? Where was he being kept again?

>Spider Man wearing the Iron Spider despite him rejecting it in Homecoming
I'm guessing he changes his mind or something.

>and stupid Hulk despite him being smart in Ragnarok
I got nothing.

That's just Marvel being inconsistent with CGI and mocap.
I don't think it's going to effect his intelligence lol.

>"Lets ignore continuity in our movies and just handwave it away with non-canon tv shows, shorts, and comics!"

This is Star Wars Prequel-tier garbage.

You have a lot of really good points and its stuff that bugged me but

>Civil War ignores Iron Man quitting the Avengers in AoU

No it doesn't, he says he's none active in the movie and doesn't suit up till he feels obligated to.


>Civil War says Stark and Pepper broke up but they're getting married in Homecoming

No, they were on a break. It actually explains why Tony hangs around the avengers and shit. Basically if Tony was getting some pepper pussy, CW never would have happened.

>the MCU is shit
WHO KNEW

Most of this is easily explained by "people doing things between movies, instead of just sitting around".

Things like:

>>Infinity War has Star Lord with his mask despite it being destroyed in vol.2, Rhodey in his armor despite being crippled in CW, Winter Soldier with his arm despite losing it in CW, Spider Man wearing the Iron Spider despite him rejecting it in Homecoming, and stupid Hulk despite him being smart in Ragnarok

>Civil War says Stark and Pepper broke up but they're getting married in Homecoming
They got together again

>>Iron Man and and Incredible Hulk imply Stark is helping Fury put together the Avengers
Fury says that the project was scrapped.

There are also the dumb complains of "why the Avengers doesnt show up to solve a small scale conflict in a remote location, that only lasted 30 minutes. Or in situations where calling the Avengers is impossible because previous movies stabelished that they are doing their own thing.

These include:
>Avengers are absent during all the magic fuckery going on in Doctor Strange (small scale, distant land)
>Avengers and Shield are absent in Iron Man 3 (Cap was on missions for SHIELD, the rest are off world or hidding)
>Avengers are absent in Thor 2 and Winter Soldier (other planet fuckery and Cap was in the hidding)
>>Thor is on Earth in Doctor Strange when he was last seen heading to Asgard in AoU (last time he was DOCUMENTED in earth)


This look like something written by a dumb person.

It's a 2-minute short to explain a continuity mistake that literally no one cared about. If you're going to be a turbo-autist about this kind of shit, then you should bother to actual be a real autist and watch the short.

>Avengers and Shield are absent in Iron Man 3
>Avengers are absent in Thor 2 and Winter Soldier
>Avengers are absent during all the magic fuckery going on in Doctor Strange
Jesus Christ this is the worst kind of retarded. Would you really prefer that every movie just be an Avengers team-up?

This is kindergarten-tier comprehension. You're the one retarded kid wondering why Superman doesn't show up to help Batman with every street-level problem he runs into.

It's because there has to be a story, you fucking dolt.

Almost all the other shit in your list can be simply explained by "stuff happens off screen" or it literally doesn't matter or it's just you being autistic about it.

>Civil War says Stark and Pepper broke up but they're getting married in Homecoming

He said they were taking a break. There are big time gaps in between movies and they don't just get frozen until the next one. They devolp off screen.

>all those inconsistencies and discrepancies
>a lot of those have valid excuses anyway
So it's pretty much just like a shared comic book superhero universe then, right?

This is Sup Forums ... no one here even knows what a comic book is.

He is because it's literally the oposite. Concept art is always better.

>things I don't like are non-canon

Sadly, I really do think that a decent portion of Sup Forums nowadays are just Sup Forums crossposters who come here to shitpost about capeshit.

The MCU is SHIT.

Maybe the Avengers needed the UN's permission at that point to intervene, they hadn't received by the time Strange got there. I wonder how fast Dormammu moves through space. Maybe they didn't see him coming even with a Stark satellite telescope.

>>Iron Man and and Incredible Hulk imply Stark is helping Fury put together the Avengers
>>Iron Man 2 and every movie since then ignores this

In Zac Penn's draft for The Avengers, The Avengers were going to form to deal with The Hulk; but this was seemingly changed by the time the movie filmed.

In the commentary for Iron Man 2, Favreau addresses Iron Man not being in the Avengers by saying that Feige told him that things shown in post-credit scenes don't necessarily have to happen in the chronology of the movies directly after the movie they are released along with nor chronologically before the movies they are released before.

So, the post-credit scenes of Iron Man 1 & 2008 don't necessarily have to have taken place in the chronology of the movies before the main time period shown in Iron Man 2.

>>Iron Man 2 and every movie since then ignores this
No, it isn't ignored, they stated the initiative was dropped.

>>Thor destroys the Bifrost to add consequence to the movie. He has to lose Jane forever to save the Frost Giants.
>>Avengers shits all over this with Odin's "dark magic" and Thor 2 repairs the Bifrost offscreen
It was never stated it was forever. Just that it would take time.

>Thor 1 implies Loki is manipulating Selvig
>This is ignored in Avengers
No, it's not. The work on the cube allow Loki to come back.

>>Stark builds Avengers tower but nobody uses it until Age of Ultron
Because it was still in construction before that point.

>Avengers and Shield are absent in Iron Man 3
They aren't absent. Thor is still stuck in Hasguard at this point, Bruce banner understandably prefer not rely on Hulk, They outright said the pentagon asked the Shield not to meddle with the terrorist attack. Once they go live with the President, there isn't enough time for them to reach him.

>>Avengers are absent in Thor 2 and Winter Soldier
In Thor 2 the invasion on earth lasted for just 20 minutes. Not enough time for the avengers to reach them. Stark had blown up all of his armors. Thor is in the UK, not enough tme to reach them.

>AoU ignores the entire plot of Iron Man 3
No, it doesn't. it's even addressed in Civil wars where he state he kept coming back on his decision to retire. In AoU he is actually bulding Ultron so he doesn't have to wear the suit anymore.

>>AoU ignores Black Widow and Nick Fury going into hiding in Winter Soldier
YOU ARE OFFICIALLY BRAIN DEAD. BW actually remain in public and even is present at a public investigation a the end of Winter Soldier. Nick Fury has remained in hiding and has reached back to the Avengers in secret; he is still hiding.


>AoU ignores Banner having control over the Hulk
Banner never had control over hulk he can more ore less direct his anger and this is waht he is doing in AoU.

>>Civil War ignores Iron Man quitting the Avengers in AoU
No it doesn't. They directly adress it. T intended to retire but his stalling on retiring cause issue with his relationship with Pepper.

>>Civil War has Ant Man deciding to become a fugitive from the government despite spending his movie trying to be with his daughter
The Antman movie actually conclude on him ready to sacrifice hismef and never see his daughter again if it can save her, for the sake of doing the right thing. In CW, he did that again. Fuck, the end of Antman conclude with him looking for "employment" to use his capacities.

>>Avengers are absent during all the magic fuckery going on in Doctor Strange
It was in China and all of it was for less than 15 minutes. No time to reach.

>>Thor is on Earth in Doctor Strange when he was last seen heading to Asgard in AoU
At the end of Doctor Strange and there might be a timegap. It seems more likely that scene take place more closely to Ragnarock.

>>The blob shit on Earth from Guardians Vol.2 was never brought up despite happening in 2014
and?

>>Homecoming is non-canon
Yes, it is canon.

>>Homecoming says Stark is building equipment for Cap thus negating all the consequences of Civil War
Except it doesn't. Civil War end with Cap leaving a message to Stark and the guy is smart enough to let option open. Zero contradiction there.

>>Civil War says Stark and Pepper broke up but they're getting married in Homecoming
JESUS FUCKING SHITTING CXHRIST HOW FUCKING RETARDED IS YOUR FUCKING BRAIN.
First you complain
>Civil War ignores Iron Man quitting the Avengers in AoU
But then you go
>Civil War says Stark and Pepper broke up but they're getting married in Homecoming
Who give a direct explanation to the first complain. Is your brain so fucking dead, it's unable to put two and two fucking together, Moron?

>>Stark builds Avengers tower but nobody uses it until Age of Ultron
Stark was residing in it in Winter Soldier, implying it's been in use since it's construction to varying degrees until after Iron Man 3, when he started living there full time. Possibly also banner.

Wow people tend to hold films with a shit ton of money behind them to a higher standard than picture books that cost almost nothing to produce? Who would have fucking thought?

Fucking idiot. Nobody should be required to study up on something with supplemental material to understand a movie. You're the cancer that is killing film.

holy shit the cgi is looking worse.

Zak Penn's first go at Avengers was meant to introduce Captain America, Thor and Loki. Loki and Hulk were still the villains. There was no IM2, Cap 1, or Thor 1. Hulk was Not going to be the main villain, but the reason the avengers initially form till it's revealed Loki was behind Hulks transformation and Thor shows up. By Act 2 and 3 Hulk was no longer a villain.

Later drafts dropped the hulk villain concept as they had more movies to work with and used Red Skull and an alien army along with Loki.

>>Black Panther implies the world thinks Wakanda is a shithole despite that not being the case in all previous movies
Wrong. Nowhere in previous movies is it mentionned that people think Wakanda is advanced.

>>Infinity War has Star Lord with his mask despite it being destroyed in vol.2,
It can be rebuild, you know?
>>Rhodey in his armor despite being crippled in CW,
He is seen at the end of Civil wars getting a re-education. and also, his armor can also serve as an exoskeleton.
>Winter Soldier with his arm despite losing it in CW,
It can be rebuild, you know? Even more likely if he has Wakanda tech.
>Spider Man wearing the Iron Spider despite him rejecting it in Homecoming,
People never change their mind or refuse to use better equipment when there is need for it.
>and stupid Hulk despite him being smart in Ragnarok
Hulk was never in full control (Age Of Ultron show that). And he isn't shown being Smart in Ragnarok.

>Interconnected cinematic universe my fucking ass.
It's almost as if you jumped at every opportunity to complain about incoherences, without ever thinking an half of second if there might not be an explanation for it, even it being outright stated, or not even checking if you remember something wrong.

Lot's of incoherence come up in those kind of circumstances.

>It was never stated it was forever. Just that it would take time.

>It's because there has to be a story, you fucking dolt.
It's even worst, there are actual explanation, quite simple, but people are so eager to complain about them not being present, that they don't even try to pay attention to it.

The fact of the matter is simple: MCU films have an extremely bad habit of developing plot and characters off-screen between films. In what are essentially time skips, Feige simply creates new, more convenient status quos, and gives no fucks to the consequences. It's already happening with Civil War. The Russos assured everyone that CW will have lasting consequences in later films. It has had no consequences for Homecoming, nor will it have consequences for Ragnarok.

>trusting Loki
ishygddt

>Yes, it is canon.

>"8 years later"

>and gives no fucks to the consequences.
That's wrong, though. there are always explanation or at least hint of them given to explain any change of the Status Quo between movies.

Didn't they use the tesseract to fix the bifrost? I mean, had they not gotten it would have been difficult anyway. Though Loki seems to know hidden passages between realms, he's clearly bullshitting.

>>"8 years later"
I don't think you know what canon mean. That doesn't make it non-canon.

>Vison states Civil War takes place in 2016
>Homecoming says it takes place 8 years after Avengers which was set in 2012 thus making Homecoming set in 2020
>Homecoming also states it picks up 3 months after Civil War

...

how is it weak ass bait? Its genuine inconsistencies.

>all this headcanon

honestly you guys are worse than snyderfags

>movies require you to do homework to make sense

I will train harder to get on this level one day

>headcanon
>headcanon
>more headcanon

jesus christ, so the MCU requires that its fans write half of it in their heads?

Captain Marvell is going to retcone at least one MCU comic (I don't know if it's Big Week) showing Fury with both eyes in the 90s.

Gunn mentioned another small retcon happening in GotG vol. 3.

>Avengers are absent during all the magic fuckery going on in Doctor Strange (small scale, distant land)

It was not a small scale, it was a fucking magic invasion in China. They could have gotten their EASILY, especially since in CW we see them traveling the globe like no problem.


>Avengers and Shield are absent in Iron Man 3 (Cap was on missions for SHIELD, the rest are off world or hidding)


WHAT? No they definitely were not all hiding or off world.


>Avengers are absent in Thor 2 and Winter Soldier (other planet fuckery and Cap was in the hidding)


Same shitty excuse that doesnt make sense. Where the fuck was Iron Man during this time?
>>Thor is on Earth in Doctor Strange when he was last seen heading to Asgard in AoU (last time he was DOCUMENTED in earth)

You dont even have a real reason for this one, you just wanted to be glib like the idiot you are.

>Headcanon

>all this headcanon


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You have put more thought into this than the actual guys who write this drek

How was this confusing? in AoU Stark gives Rogers the compound as a base.

It's in use in Ant-Man.

Civil War Rogers team abandons it

Homecoming Stark moves his Accord Avengers in. Vision has been the only permanent resident, maybe Rhodey for therapy and cybernetics.

I'm not defending the MCU's inconsistency. It's just a way that the timeline could make sense.

Aparently a bunch of Phase 1 movies take place in one week but clues in the movies show that they take place in the year that they were released except for Cap 1.

>the scene literally gets erased in the film with time travel
>"n-nuh-uh, h-headcanon"

>wears brown jacket in concept art
>wears blue jacket in film
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Wait, you couldn't understand THE AVENGERS and you're calling someone else a fucking idiot?

>unfinished CGI looks worse than finished CGI
No shit

>can't make sense a movie made for kids because one minor scene doesn't align
Please tell me what part of these movies was so confusing that you had trouble following.

> The Avengers was supposed to be a one-time thing until the whole Hydra thing and Shield collapse then they became thing
> Iron Man never gave up being Iron Man in Iron Man 3 Tony promised pepper that he'll stop obsessing over building new Iron Man suits he never promised that he'll stop being Iron Man because the word needs Iron Man it would be stupid to give up at that point

Also antman wasn't about Ant Man trying to be with his daughter it was about Ant-Man being the hero that his daughter thought he was and I'm pretty sure saving the world from Super assassins would be a heroic movie even though it's against the government

Thus thread is complete cancer

I wonder if anybody will ever try something like that nine-hour "Avengers Assemble" project again.

I'm surprised Marvel's never made motion comics for the MCU comics. You'd think they'd get some money out of that.

> that scene in Doctor Strange obviously takes place in like the middle of Ragnarok
> Tony and pepper never broke up they were taking a break because of the Accords and I guess pepper didn't agree with them

>>AoU ignores Banner having control over the Hulk
Scarlet Witch did that.

> I doubt Star-Lord mask is irreplaceable
> Spider-Man is wearing the suit because it is technically better in a world ending situation
> black panther gave Winter Soldier another arm this time made of vibranium
> Hulk isn't stupid in Infinity War he's not even shown on the trailers

>>Avengers are absent during all the magic fuckery going on in Doctor Strange
Following Civil War? THey broke up!

Correct

Get on my level, faggot

>Moving goalposts

Who said I couldn't understand these movies? I'm saying I shouldn't have to read/watch non-canon supplemental material for a film to fully make sense.

Hey, I wasn't saying it was impossible. I was just wondering if somebody was going to try something given that we're encroaching more than 15 hours of MCU now.

>fully make sense
They do fully make sense. Unless you're so assblasted about some minor continuity errors, there's nothing to be confusing.

For the few people who ARE that assblasted, they made the shorts.

>interspersing TV
>no sign of Agent Carter
>doesn't even have The first Avenger at the beginning

...what's that all about?

Or do you have a separate project file for everything pre-IM 1?

You gonna release that shit? And are you gonna do a version without the TV shows?

He means the whole lullaby crap to calm him down in normal missions. That wasn't necessary in Avengers, where he was in control if he changed willingly (New York) and not because of manipulation or stress (Helicarrier).

>Earth's mightiest heroes
>aren't even available to help each other with the majority of threats they face

>Avengers are absent during all the magic fuckery going on in Doctor Strange
They took especial care to show how the New York Sanctum was not destroyed, something that would have caught the attention of pretty much every person in the Avenger's tower.

The London Sanctum was destroyed and only an hour or so afterwards the same happened with the Honk Kong one, which thanks to time magic fuckery technically didn't even happen as far as every character in the universe except Strange, Mordo and Wang is concerned.

At most, SHIELD or whoever simply got the report of an explosion in some old house in London.

jesus christ this is some military grade salt
>only credentials are community pilot episode
Sounds kinda like that wonder woman director whose most notable credit was an episode of Arrested development
>15 films are barely distinguishable
nice meme
>the genre's rich history of creativity and diversity
we've clearly been watching different cape films then

these Sup Forums raids sure do fuck with you guys

>aren't even available to help each other with the majority of threats they face

Oh go fuck yourself

Niggers are the only ones that have to gang up on every single little fucking problem

I'm ok with Avengers taking matters into their own hands at times instead of calling in the entire fucking team for every little challenge.