>Bleeding Cool understands that DC Comics is going to publish a new Harley Quinn monthly comic book called Harley Loves Joker. With Jimmy Palmiotti and Bruce Dini, it will follow in the Batman Animated Series style and attitude that has recently appeared in the Harley Loves Joker back-up strips in the current Harley Quinn twice-monthly comic book, running the character’s twenty-fifth anniversary in Harley Quinn #25 out tomorrow.
>After which point, the back-up strips, now it will graduate to a regular book of its very own… with Palmiotti, Dini, and probably with Bret Blevins too.
So is Tumblr going to burn down DC for this or what?
William Robinson
Top kek, dubs confirm
Austin Bailey
>& Jimmy Palmiotti Good god, why?
Tyler Fisher
Thats great news. I love those two in that art style.
Jeremiah Williams
tumblr BTFO Will Harlivy shippers ever recover?
Parker Baker
Does this mean we don't have any reason to read the main Harley book now?
Luis Kelly
>i like being abused by criminals Cool.
Brody Wright
So DC gets to have its cake and eat it too well at least I get my Joker ongoing
Ayden Peterson
unless you like nu harley and poop jokes
Blake White
I wanna see the Joker without pants
Xavier Lopez
and now Joker is back with harley What type of cruel fate is dc weaving
Nicholas Ramirez
To keep continuity straight with the main book? kek.
Colton Reyes
Maybe he is just art and not writing. No Connor writing makes this already better looking than the current book.
Jordan Anderson
We get this but not Dick/Babs story
Colton Gray
Palmiotti is writing too, this is basically the backups but in full format instead of 6 or so pages
Adrian Cox
Then who is art? Dini?
Jayden Wilson
>a new Batbook by Dini is coming That's all I need to know to be excited.
Kevin Cruz
Bret Blevins
Julian Gutierrez
>Bleeding Cool understands leave now
Caleb Thomas
I was kind of hoping the secondary stories would get their own trade. They're certainly better than the main book thats for sure
Matthew Turner
DC makes fags believe Palmiotti and Dini are best buddies, it's a way of promoting the book among nu Harley fags and avoiding their plain rejection. DC wants to keep both types of readers and doesn't want people to think Dini is replacing Palmiotti though this is what is happening since Harley Quinn probably will be published in the Detective comics week instead of its usual schedule
Hunter Cox
Oh well what a shit article for not mentioning him. I saw them team name and naturally assumed it was a writer/artist team.
Jordan King
What DC fails to understand (or plain ignore) is that nobody would be mad or reject the idea of Dini replacing Palmiotti since most people are tired of him.
Connor Anderson
Certain Ivy fags are going to be angry
Angel Rivera
Why would they be mad? Certainly this is gonna play at their favor. In any case Dini Is also writing Harley/Ivy meets Betty/Veronica
Liam Davis
But he doesn't write them as gays
Logan Sullivan
Well this is awesome.
Kayden Sanders
It's interesting, it has been a year since Suicide Squad but DC is still trying to milk the cow Harley Quinn and batman and this one at the same time
Jason Evans
They didn't burn DC down when White Knight was announced and there're many Joker/Harley shippers on tumblr because of the film
Levi Sanders
Bruce Timm + Paul Dini = The Ultimate Being?
Carson Ramirez
Dickbabs is terrible.
Tyler Brown
There are a couple really autistic ivyfags. Even got mad that Frost "stole" her redemption slot.
Colton Edwards
We get this before >Shazam >Booster Gold >Jonah Hex/All-Star Western >The Brave and the Bold >Plastic Man
Just fuck my shit up, DC.
Kayden Carter
>All literal who's Yea why would they do that?
Tyler Phillips
The ivyleague doesn't ship poison/quinn. They legitimately think getting Ivy 'out of Harleys shadow' would lead to anybody giving a shit about Ivy. They Poison/Quinn shippers are your run of the mill yuri fan boys and actual lesbians. Who, however vocal, are nowhere near as diehard as Ivy fans.
Angel Rodriguez
I just wanna read there rise and down fall desu Mostly the down fall
Ethan Price
>joker and harley >dini
MORE MONEY FOR DC
And NuHarley will still sell well without it.
Jonathan Thomas
we have a green lantern title what are you talking about
Tyler Lewis
>being this new
Josiah Carter
Dude what Shazam is high A tier booster is mid b tier
Carter Garcia
Fuck I mean low A tier.
Gavin Jones
Awesome, I won't have to read throught the shitty Harley book now.
Wyatt Wright
>high A tier what the fuck is wrong with you?
Jace Martin
I meant to say low A tier.
Jason King
what the fuck is wrong with you?
Joseph Ross
tricked
Levi Brown
Are you saying he is high B?
Dylan Mitchell
DC giving the fans what they want
Landon Lewis
and character development marches backwards into hell once more
Gabriel Walker
>still no JSA
Mason Fisher
What character development?
Jason Perry
Yeah, what development? Palmiotti hasn't developed the character at all
Gavin Davis
Harley developed into a bisexual with several partners though Palmiotti pushed Red Tool as her love interest since the only real plot in Harley Quinn involved Red Tool's story.
No thanks user, they can keep the "development"
Logan Powell
But Harley has always been Bisexual, it's just that it's was only between Joker and Ivy. Nothing changed
Nicholas Reyes
I don't want to believe you're stupid so let's say you need to read old things cause Harley was never Bisexual until recent years
Camden James
Dude, even in her old ongoing it had hints and subtext about her relationship with Ivy. Really, Harley's bisexuality isn't nothing new
Carter Bell
Sexual gags never made her and Ivy romantically involved
Logan Rogers
Are you implying that having sex with someone of the same sex isn't gay? If so then wew. They weren't romantically involved but there still were hints that Harley and Ivy's friendship is more that meets the eye
Henry Peterson
>Harlvy began in comics, in the TV show they were friends, they didn't have a romantic relationship, at that time the writer didn't think a parody of Thelma and Louis could be understood as a lesbian relationship in a show for kids.
>Harley was born in 1992. >The first fanservice happened in a parody/crossover in 2002 and it was a slight oneside thing. >Paul Dini wrote a famous joke about Ivy/Harley saying in a subtle way the ship is crack. in 2001. >In canon Harley has never been a lesbian.
>Harley Quinn in N52(2013) or Rebirth (2016) is not canon >bombshells is not canon and every single girl there is gay too. >Injustice is not canon and they buried the ship there anyway.
Hunter Sanders
I don't have all their comics at hand so maybe you're referring to something specific I'm missing, but my point was that their meetings were sexualized because they're two hot chicks hanging around together, not because the writers intended them as a sexual or romantic couple, which is what people care about. It's like what Harley says in that one comic, are Supergirl and Batgirl also lesbians if being in the same room is all it takes?
Isaiah Perry
>In the old things like TAS they weren't leaving clues, I know you hadn't been born yet but back then they didn't have homosexual subtext.
>Bruce Timm said in an interview the last months Harlivy is a headcanon.
>Paul Dini has said many things but they asked him on twitter and he said they weren't supposed to be in a relationship. They were friends.
Brayden Powell
What are you trying to prove here?. If anything that prove that user was wrong and Harley's Bisexuality is nothing new
Wait, this turned into a Harley/Ivy discussion now?. I was only saying that Harley being Bisexual is nothing new since like user pointed out here , it's been with her since at least 2002
Evan Torres
CONFIRMED!
From the same sauce site.
Caleb Jackson
And this happened less than 5 times if I remember rightly.
Grayson Cook
no, Ivy was the oneside thing. Dini considered the ship an impossible silly thing. Maybe I wasn't clear.
Adam Lee
and this one was an isolated case in a parody/crossover with the Mask
Jason Murphy
Like you said, Dini has said many things but I don't think he has ever ruled out the possibility of Harley/Ivy being in a relationship. He just goes with whatever with please the audience
Gabriel Cook
You shouldn't try to defend Harley's bisexuality as something old, you're going to lose cause honestly she wasn't bisexual, what happened in 2002 was Ivy being fanservice for a moment.
Elijah Collins
well, how many times has Dini written Harley and Ivy as a pairing?
Never.
It simply never happened.
Adrian Long
I meant
>Bruce Timm said Harlivy is a headcanon but not his headcanon
Blake Kelly
It is an old thing, there were hints in the Harley old ongoing (check out issue #13), in the Harley/Ivy mini, in the Batgirl Adventures One-shot, in the Sirens book. I don't know where you got the idea that Harley was never bisexual in the past
There's that Love is Love story that he wrote, but yeah Dini have been all words and zero action when it comes to them
Connor Collins
He also recently said that Joker never loved Harley and to him she was a toy, what's your point?
Nolan Gomez
she wasn't supposed to be lesbian and both creators agreed
Eli Moore
He did? Link?
Gavin Cook
Show me sources, I can show you a couple of them where Dini says that he always saw Harley and Ivy in a relationship, and that then being in one felt natural.
Ian Parker
>old ongoing #13
you're problem is that you don't know what friendship is.
>Harley/Ivy mini
They weren't gay there.
>Batgirl adventures
You mean where Dini wrote Harley/Ivy was crack and ridiculous.
>Sirens
You mean the last arc that wasn't written by Dini and was released in 2011 when N52 was beginning, that one where Harley took advantage of Ivy's oneside thing in order to be with Joker, cause she really loved Joker
Cameron Campbell
SDCC Bruce Timm Spotlight Panel
>Timm says that he doesn't think Joker cares about Harley.
>"He's a monster. He's absolute scum... She's just a tool in his arsenal." - Timm
Bruce Timm said Joker didn't love Harley 7 hrs after Paul Dini said in a panel Joker DOES love her.
Henry Diaz
Not that user and I'm not saying you're lying, but why don't you post them instead of preemptively bragging about winning the argument?
Isaiah Williams
Why not both? After all, Joker loves multiple choice answers.
Landon Barnes
>you're problem is that you don't know what friendship is.
I know what a friendship is, but I also know that writers left hints here and there. The pairing wasn't born out of thin air, y'know?
>They weren't gay there
Maybe not as much as today, but like I have said before the subtext was there. I mean they shared a bed and Harley didn't have any problem seeing Ivy naked
>You mean where Dini wrote Harley/Ivy was crack and ridiculous.
How that story is crack and ridiculous?. It pointed out that Harley cares tremendously for Ivy.
>You mean the last arc that wasn't written by Dini and was released in 2011 when N52 was beginning, that one where Harley took advantage of Ivy's oneside thing in order to be with Joker, cause she really loved Joker
Or the story where Ivy got kidnapped and Harley tried to search for her desperately, or the story where Ivy got brainwashed by an alien plant and Harley tried to make her come back to her senses by remind her the good she has done to her and how she has helped her
Brayden Cruz
>They care about each other so they're fucking No, you don't know what friendship is. Or at least for some reason you see romantic love as a natural result of it
Aaron Reed
hehehe Obviously Timm and Dini has different tastes and Dini has been written Joker and Harley for the last 15 years while Timm was the designer of her costume and likely don't know of Dini's work
Parker Cox
>Dini: I still write the characters occasionally for animation, and the nature of the beast is that their relationship is much more like it was in the “Harley and Ivy” episode. In animation, you can’t really go to the place [where they are in the comics]. But I’m all for it. I think their relationship in the comics is progressive, and the sort of thing that needs to be in comics. It’s fun to show that even the bad girls can be nice to each other, and there can be love and affection between them. Nowadays, I see them as very much equals. Harley has progressed in her personal development, and I don’t think that she’s as needy or as lost as when she first linked up with Poison Ivy. It’s actually a much stronger relationship between them now, because it involves personal choice.
>Paul Dini: When Bruce and I did the Harley and Ivy miniseries, it was certainly implied that [Ivy and Harley] had a relationship with each other—they shared hugs and kisses. I didn’t want that to overpower what the story was, but the relationship between them is so natural.
>Paul Dini: The more I worked with [Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy], the more I could see [a romantic relationship] happening. Unfortunately, at the time, in an animated kids cartoon, you really couldn’t get into the complexity of that or honor what a relationship like that could really be. We just showed them together as friends and on fairly intimate terms when they were out of the costume, but nothing was implicit because if we couldn’t do that relationship properly then we didn’t want to do it at all.
We have talk about that a lot. It's true Dini used to say whatever people wanted to hear but it's true too that he has never written them as gay and wrote hundred of pages of HarleyJoker and we know because of the interviews and comments made at the time TAS was airing nobody never considered Harley and Ivy as a romantic relationship.
Zachary Mitchell
*talked
Joshua Price
I just said that Dini Is all talk and zero action about them, I was just asking for sources for Dini saying that he never saw Harley and Ivy as a couple
Julian Bailey
The question was erased by the fag asked for one reason by the way.
I'll get a best source since he said it in an interview too but it's the same thing, what did he write? he didn't write HarleyIvy, there weren't clues or subtext.
Justin Green
Dini Is weird, he says one thing then later he says another thing and he contradict himself. But yeah you're right
Josiah Ramirez
>Two Harley on-goings Why stop there?
How about an animated TV show based around her? Maybe a mini-series written by Miller. We'll call it "All-Star Harley Quinn". Maybe if we're lucky DC will put her on as a Justice League member, replacing Martian Manhunter completely.
Sandwich her in with the JSA. Make her a Green Lantern. Retcon her origins so she's a Kryptonian. Give her Darksied's Omega Beams. Take over The Flash's lunch box.
I JUST CAN'T FUCKING WAIT FOR MORE HARLEY FUCKING QUINN
Kayden Moore
>Harley and Batman animated movie >Now field leader of the Sucide Squad >Part of Batman's super team in Injustice
Give it time, user
Aaron Edwards
man, you really made me laugh!
Dylan Robinson
just you wait user all of that is about to happen
Tyler Parker
Where did I mention Green Lantern?
Evan Evans
Is this really happening? an ongoing by Dini when there's a digital first ongoing with that style already?
