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Is there a more pure Nolan film than this?

nolan is hack

Interstellar
I may be biased because i like sci-fi a lot

this movie sucks. "Dream within a dream" is NONSENSE. A dream state is your mind in an altered state, not a physically 'deeper' state that has further levels.

I liked The Prestige the most
nice suspension of disbelief

bet you're fun at parties

The most kino moment is ‘Be Useful’ getting hurled down a flight of stairs, bashing his head and moaning like an innocent.

As opposed to inception? Unless you mostly associate sci fi with space themes.

You're not wrong but inception felt so fresh and unique to the cinema of that time.

that's not the problem

the problem is that it's a movie about dreams and the most imaginative shit he could come up with was topsy turvy hotel and Call of Duty gun fights

It's a really cool flick but it felt like you could have built an entire movie about a dream extraction to set up the raised stakes of 'inception' and fewer people would have come out of the theatre with such confusion w/ regard to the plot.

Also the notion of multi-layered dream states with synchronized 'kick' is just patently ridiculous when you only truly have inner ear equilibrium on the highest level (the plane) which would make it really easy for someone to wake you up manually on that level, no matter the condition on any subsequent levels.

There's no way of telling how subsequent levels truly work or their effects, by your logic someone could think comatose patients could be easily woken up.

I agree with you but what I'm asking is, is there a more definitively 'Nolan' flick?

The original anime was better desu

Its a movie about movies.
I bet you're still puzzling over the plot of The Prestige as well.

Inception was good, but the prestige is the only pure kino Nolan has ever made. Rest leans too heavily towards popcorn capeshit.

Momento > Prestige > Inception

The Nolan movies-about-making-movies trilogy.

Huh I had never heard of memento. Will have to watch.

well a big part of the plot is people aren't supposed to realize they're dreaming

Inception was a straight up pile of garbage from the moment it was released.
Interstellar is unironically much better than it, and I'm not even a big fan of sci-fi.

yeah I guess so. I've always liked space sci-fi the best

it's meandering, poorly written, uninspired and very grey and blue. it contains interchangable people in suits explaining the plot to eachother while walking purposefully.
it is by far the most pure nolan experience.

That's a good thing. It keeps the film grounded and tense as an action heist movie, where putting in matrix flying and doctor strange distortion would ruin the story. Inception works so well because the rules of the dreamworld are very well explained and stuck to very consistently. It's not about throwing as much crazy visually cool shit on screen as possible, the film has a lot of restraint. Less is more.

You're not wrong, but i still really liked it.

>his best movie
>Huh I had never heard of memento.

This is literally the state of Nolanfaggs a true plebs

Did you think movie was svi-fi? All the explosions gave it away, i bet.

This is ridiculous. "Kino fans" defeated by mainstream cinema. Let me explain the Nolan trilogy, screencap this if you have to.

1. Momento. In which Nolan explores the paradox of non-linearity and games with time in an inherently linear medium. This is a major interest of his as a film maker.

2. The Prestige. Its a metaphor for sleight of hand in film making, the whole thing is an exercise in sleight of hand. Every character is an unreliable narrator, so is Nolan himself, its all lies from start to finish. How did he do it? Nolan told you a dozen times directly but he strung you along and played a trick on you anyway. Its a shaggy dog story based on the 'magic of movies'.

3. Inception. Its a metaphor for film making, the characters are the Auteur director whose personal obsessions threaten to fuck everything up, the Producer, the Production Designer, the Actor, the Financier etc. The film is constructed as basically a joke about heist films which are a particular area of interest to Nolan given the way they distort time to produce the illusion of simultaneous action in a linear medium. Movies are shared dreams and the hardest thing for a director to do is to change what people think and do having watched them. Sup Forums and people like them are the wretches rotting in the basement who can't come round.

Hope that helps.

I think i finally realized why Noland movies are bland. His visuals are nonexistent and his lighting sucks ass.

Interstellar was much more ambitious, and more epic in nature but it feels like a bit of an icarus project, it's flaws feel magnified when you consider what could have been thoughts?

>asking for your own carefag post to be screencapped

I love sci-fi as well (watched a LOT of them) but Interstellar was pretty weak to Inception, in my opinion. The thing I hated about Interstellar was the whole, "love is bigger than the universe", bullshit explanation. They couldn't just have a non-happy ending for once?

Yeah I agree, I felt that held it back and Anne Hathaways acting wasn't entirely convincing either. Also the tesseract ending plot really didn't make a ton of sense.

To me Inception is babby-tier garbage still. I wouldn't expect some kind of great arthouse masterpiece out of Nolan ever, and Interstellar is still pretty trademark Nolan, but it's surely superior to Inception and did fine on it's own I think.
I haven't watched his earlier movies in more than a decade.

>games with time
>its a metaphor
>a joke about heist
>unreliable narrator
>linear medium
All this sound pleby and hacky, nothing new below the sun, much better done in other movies, derivative crap from mister "exposition time"

>much better done in other movies
Can you name a few examples?

Hathaway really had no purpose in being there and got one of the team killed. They had to make up some BS for the end so they could have Matthew survive and see his daughter (which was stupid as fuck).

Yeah, he should have died or Murph should have.

Well, making films about films is pretty common although they are less often about the mechanics of it as with Nolan. It does maybe cast few things in a different light, the idea that Mal Cobb would drag Cobb down to the depths where years would pass is quite funny when you think what a director and producer are most scared of (production delays).
But no, I don't think its especially hacky or derivative. Less so than most films, accepting as you say that there isn't anything new anyone could come up with anyway. I'm not making any particular claims for someone whose work is made for the multiplex beyond that.

Him dying would have been super emotional and a good ending for sure.