So why does Marvel want to push SJW pandering so much when everyone knows how dishonest and disingenuous it was due to their Trump supporting CEO (who also hates black people)?
Hell, does pic related look like the type of person who cares about minorities and LGBT folk?
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Because it keeps the SJW retards quiet while they make the real money at the box office.
Eventhough Perlmutter's making lesser bank on MCU then before AoU?
You don't understand. it's his masterplan. he make a point to take the worst of SJW ideology to destroy it an make it collapse on its own. Soon everyone will hate it no matter what. It's a master Slander campaign.
'Less money' than before which is still a guaranteed 500 million each movie is still a shitload of cash
>does pic related look like the type of person who cares about minorities and LGBT folk?
I don't know snowflake
What does a person like that look like?
Pink hair over weight with facial piercings?
Asian Steampunk guy?
Black girl with dreadlocks?
Fuck you for making me reply you faggot
This is the face of a man who gives a shit.
I'd love to have Barack Obama run Marvel Comics.
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this documentaries will help you understand why he does what he does user
basically the comics placate the sjw crowd while the movies rake home the cash
>yfw obama fires bendis
If he cares so much about the money then why are comic sales dropping like the bees?
OK, let's clear this up.
Ike donates money to a charity that Trump is coincidentally a celebrity spokesperson for. They met ONCE at a fundraiser for that charity.
Ike is a registered democrat.
He'd fire Quesadilla too since Obama's still a smoker
because the movies rake in more cash and attention than the comics so its gotta be a sacrificial lamb
This is photo of Ike and post-election Trump.
Ike is clearly on the Trump train, and actually convinced Bob Iger to join Trump's Entrepreneurship Team.
>does pic related look like the type of person who cares about minorities and LGBT folk?
He's a jew. He IS a "minority", you dumbass!
And yet he, Quesadilla and Bendis got kicked out of the MCU's Production Team by Iger.
What a fucking great boss.
That's correct. That's the charity fundraiser they attended.
Ike is a registered democrat.
>Obama is still a smoker
WTF? I love obama even more now!
and you think he's profits are lesser after that?
Insert someone something media and the left. Heard it often too.
>So why does Marvel want to push
DC is owned by Warner Brothers who also owns CNN
Marvel is owned by Disney who also owns ABC
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you know why, is the answer.
He lives in NYC. If you're not a registered Democrat, you don't get to vote in the primaries, and in a one-party town that's usually the election that matters.
Let's get this out of the way, movies could give less of a fuck about what comics do. Current state of Marvel's cuckery is all on them, movie synergy is not even mandatory, Bendis even admitted that he killed Rhodes in Civil War 2 only because he thought that was what movie going for. It's collective retardation of these individuals, not mandates.
Isn't it not as straightforward as it is with Disney-Marvel? Like, i think Time Warner is there somewhere
>Current state of Marvel's cuckery is all on them
Female Thor, Facist Steve/CapFalcon, Female and Doom Ironmen, pushes for Moon Girl and America Chavez... none of that is related to the movies at all. The movie related pushes are basically Guardians, and Carol Marvel.
>DC is owned by Warner Brothers who also owns CNN
CNN is pretty left leaning so why isn't DC trying to do the same thing marvel is doing?
is WB that hands off with their assets?
user, that was my point. On them [Marvel Comics]
>Let's get this out of the way, movies could give less of a fuck about what comics do.
>movie synergy is not even mandatory
Capitalism has no ideology.
If market research showed that Sup Forumsman the jew killer would be the hottest selling book of the year they'd make it an ongoing, a miniseries and a graphic novel.
SJW shit sells.
>Capitalism has no ideology.
>implying making money is not an ideology
Capitalism is the best religion
>SJW shit sells.
but it doesnt. SJW's never buy the shit you try to peddle to them and you alienate your fanbase by making it
If it sold as badly as Sup Forums claimed and if it was making that much of an impact the they would've stopped by now and you'd get your glorious NiggerGasser as a protag.
Obviously it's selling just good enough for them to continue to produce it.
Dude, I think Squirrel Girl barely sells 12k at this point.
12k book is probably a book being published at a cost at this point, but it's definitely would have been black list sales numbers for Jim Shooter, you would never get a job at Marvel ever again with flop this hard.
currently, marvel use comics to test future movie scripts because comincs incoming is literally NOTHING for disney, there is not such thing as "losing money" when a comic don't sell, the feedback is much mroe worth.
this responds why the MCU isn't SJW friendly (99% of the cast is white and male centered) as the comics is but is slowly catching up with what worked so far (specially now that the MCU is a very strong setting and you can easily introduce a "new" character together with a already established successful one.
While in DCEU, we have Cyborg as a founding member in the Justice League and Avengers only had Black Nick Fury (that is much older than the MCU itself and everyone loved Samuel L. Fury in the ultimate verse, tested and approved by...the comic readers)
>it's impossible for CEOs to have bad ideas because they are pure luminous being superior to we flawed mortal men
Seriously?
>12k book is probably a book being published at a cost at this point
Most of the Hasbroverse comics that IDW produced sells under 4k. They solve this by paying the artist jack shit, as evident by awful art and awful colours.
You pay your workers shit, you get inferior product, the products still sells so the shareholders still get insane amounts of money on the fact that your Vietnamise workers are being payed by rice.
It's not a hard concept to get.
but EVERYTHING keeps getting canceled after like, issue 4.
So Question, why is Marvel so much worse with movie synergy?
It's possible for CEOs to have batshit insane ideas that nobody likes.
It's also possible for those ideas to sell good enough and give them enough money to buy a 15th house at the beach from them to justify the bad idea as good investment.
As we all know making money for CEOs = objectively good product.
If you won't like that way of thinking, congratulations you just discovered why capitalism is shit for art.
I personally would want the comics branch to be focused on the medium of storytelling comics and not see Marvel turn into just making storyboards for other media projects
Cyborg being in Justice Leauge just turns anything Teen Titans related into a clusterfuck, if they want a cohesive cinematic universe like Marvel.
Teen Titans should have been done a long fucking time ago, but hey have been pissing around with all these other projects, and when they get around to it, everyone will again have forgotten about TT.
Oh, I thought you meant they were attempting movie synergy in spite of no mandate, considering your Rhodes example.
DC at least keeps the storytelling going nicely (maybe the comics incoming is really something for then since WB incoming is not like Disney's), but I'm 100% sure Marvel (Disney... again) care only about possible movies and the feedback that those "new comics and ideas" gives.
To be honest, from a business point of view, this is fucking genius, it's like having beta testers that pay to test the new game for you.
oh wait. there's already retard paying full price on early access bait games...
we need a fucking regulation
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The theory I had heard before was that Ike is trying to turn as many people as he can in what used to be a fairly left leaning community into a more conservative people out of rage thanks to their favorite characters being ruined. Seems a little far fetched to me, just sharing what I'd heard before.
I think how hamfistedly and poorly it's being done really shows how fucking stupid and out of touch conservatives are when they try to appeal to some markets and can't even come close to understanding said market. You just need a little bit of creative thinking, but when you actually think everything was magically better back in the day and that nothing should ever change, is it any surprise that it's hard to use a little imagination?
>someone who never lived in NYC or any kind of city for that matter.
Bob quit when Trump left the climate deal.
>first time being photographed in 30+ years
It still worries me to think about what ike must've done to the person who took that photo.
Ike isn't the reason there's "sjw shit" in the comics; He's the reason the shit that's there is bitter and vindictive. Marvel reeks of a toxic "cover your own ass" work environment, and it comes through in their desperate, self-righteous political posturing.
The only issue with that you're not getting any functional feedback as only a portion of the total films are used to form the basis of new directions for the comics but the scripts being used are early drafts which may not reflect the shooting script at all. Guardians of the Galaxy, for example, had three script treatments.
Live in Queens. What's your objection to my post?
For once I wish the mouse would do its usual cost-cutting by getting rid of the entire division but they know that would be a bad look when trying to sell the movies, so they let it blunder along making no money because it's so inconsequential. I don't think Ike really gives a shit any more besides his occasional dumb push like Inhumans.
Marvel is a business
Businesses exist to make money so we can buy stuff
If pandering to purple haired transpolitical xenosexuals with libarts degrees is what makes money (or seems to), they do it.
>I live in queens
I'm sure you do.
I know Marvel has a Board of Trustees. Why don't they just force him to resign?
>Ike is a registered democrat.
So am I. I still voted Trump.
Kill yourself, white boy.
Either way, what's your objection to my post? Go ahead, set me straight.
Being a supporter of the President doesn't make you a racist. This is the worst timeline.
He's dancing around it. He doesn't have a counter.
It's infantile to assume this guy ordered: "Make a ton of shitty SJW comics to turn people against the movement"
theyre pushing really hard that asian super friends team but its understandable you havent heard too much of it because how bad it is
>He's dancing around it. He doesn't have a counter.
I never understand that. Why get all hot and bothered by my assertion if he doesn't actually have an objection?
>Trump supporting CEO (who also hates black people)
Wtf? I love Marvel now!
In addition, the comic industry is run by SJWs, to the exclusion of others. It's not an accident that Squirrel Girl is a fucking Eisner winner.
He seems to be more of a DC guy. I mean his campaign slogan was literally blue lantern shit.
The comics are marketing and test markets for franchise ideas, so you don't have to rely as much on what some holywood fuckhead thinks will resonate with the audience.
No samefagging please.
He is rich and only cares about money.
He's not saying the movies are making less money.
He's saying Kike Perlmutter is making less since Disney ousted him from the film unit and gave Feige full control.
They did this in the 70's too. And the 90's. It has nothing to do with "social justice", it's just attempting to get more female and minority customers.
In the 70's Marvel launched Night Nurse, Claws of the Cat and Shanna the She-Devil literally solely to pander to females, and Ms. Marvel shortly after. It was just as out of touch and cringey then as it is now.
Marvel is a soulless, money-grubbing corporation run by idiot suits. Everything they do is for sales and demographics. There's no secret SJW agenda.
But the writers, editors and artists are actual liberals and do what they want.
Still no actual response? Ruseman confirmed.
>There's no secret SJW agenda.
you're right. It's in the open.
Because it's the stupid diamond model of selling the books through direct sales comic store preorders. And the numbers based on that tell them where to go. Are you going to go with new unproven product or Spider-Man again?
user, stop talking comics to people who's never read a comic
>SJW shit sells.
Only it doesn't retard
Except it does.
Claremont Ms. Marvel was good though.
Let 'em believe their boogeyman they made up in the secret club of GG or whatever is real. That someone who ain't like them is coming to change or take away everything they love.
I agree it has more to do with trying to get everyone who sees and enjoys the films to buy and read the damned comics. But there's this whole idea of this thing they enjoy not being a business and being a meaningful part of their lives as their big ol' corporate buddy. The stories they like can be that cool thing, but they'd rather believe it's all being corrupted or changed for the worst by a secret cabal rather than the pursuit of cold hard cash.
They who? Marvel comics doesn't see a dime from the movies thanks to Feige.
>In the 70's Marvel launched Night Nurse, Claws of the Cat and Shanna the She-Devil literally solely to pander to females
WRONG
Those were all cheesecake fanservice characters
Girls in the 70's read as much comics as boys just not superhero comics
Partly making bets on a consumer base shift. See the success of big movies like Fast & furious pandering.
Partly most people coming out of art school are die hard cult like sjw.
Kys
OG Night Nurse was soap opera.
Kill yosef honkey
Because he only cares about making money and the media narrative has placed the false idea into his head that social justice is for the cool kids.
And while demographics run toward young people being more and more non-white, they're also millenial phone addicts who will never touch a print magazine, so they can't pick up new readers. And the old readers are cranky racist hicks mad that they had to read a book about someone who wasn't a white male. Comics are doomed.
They brought in women (who were just the wives of writers/artists) to write them, it was all a publicity stunt.
>Trump supporting CEO
Are you sure that's still true? Just about everybody but inbred neo-nazis have backed away from him at this point.
>Just about everybody but inbred neo-nazis have backed away from him at this point.
>keep calling people who aren't Nazis..mazis!
>it worked so well in the election!!!
you're responding to bait, look at the rest of anons posts in this thread.
spotted the inbred neo-nazi
>last election
popular vote
user, do you seriously think the whole milkshake thing, the reaction to 3 assholes on twitter, was a reasonable response that represents a firm grasp on reality?
>That someone who ain't like them is coming to change or take away everything they love.
All the progressives are quite open that this is in fact what they want to do and a good deal of the older liberals are going along with it.
>So why does Marvel want to push SJW pandering so much
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If registering for a party meant anything, we wouldn't need to vote. They'd just note how many people are registered democrat and republican and then only care about people who aren't registered either.
You're a towel.
Ugh fuck you and your parents for making you this way. You colossal loser.