Sci-fi guns then and now

>Mid 90s
>spend 300000 blank rounds from live firearms

>Now
>Just add some CGI flashes to these airsoft toys

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whats your point, nonce

Your post is more
>How far a budget goes in mid 90's
>How far a budget goes nowadays + technology

Whats the problem with CGI? If it looks good and sounds good there is no problem, you sound like a brainlet boomer
>in the oldays...

>>an Mongolian youtuber can add the CGI flashes for few shekels in a week...

>Phased Plasma Rifle in the 40 watt range

I'm a sucker for bulky chrome future guns

The problem with CG muzzle flairs is that the actors motion is never perfectly matched with them, same goes for CG blood over squibs

Not only that, but guns used to have style. Now, its apple design. Faggot guns for true faggots. Sorry. I want gun porn.

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Back in the day when actors were taught to emulate realistic recoil to blank firing gun.
Now there is no recoil at all...

>the hands firing the gun are actually that of Aliens producer Gale Anne Hurd. Hurd explained in the audio commentary that Jenette Goldstein had only a little firearms experience prior to filming and her portrayal of the gun's recoil wasn't accurate enough for the director, so Hurd was asked to get into costume and fire the weapon for the closeup.

>bulky chrome plasma rifle ?
I have this

Don't roll a 1 bro

That's interesting, thanx user. I remember watching an interview with sugorney weaver in which she was talking about how anti-gun she is and how its so weird shooting aliens because of all the gun slinging she dose

There was an actual blank firing firearm inside it.

Doesnt matter. Still my fascist waifu 4 life.

Thats part of the fun. Either way, someone will end in ashes. But admit it. It has the looks.

>normies eat it up
Why would they even try if they get a pass?

That`s why in Alien: Resurrection there were only props, not real guns.

We get to that...from this. Sad. And the sound of it. Was epic.

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Would blanks not produce a slight recoil of their own?
Oh god yes its like an angry monster cackling at you

>And the sound of it. Was epic.
And badass muzzle flash.

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woudl't the smartgun be the most OP gun in any type of scifi ever created?

I mean Sigourney had more influence in Resurrection, so no real guns.

Blanks produce recoil, but much less than live round.

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Anything designed by blomkap's team looks really cool

Actually weapon designers want smartguns in real life now.

Hands up sucka

sounds impossible for looooong while, at least by Alien's smartgun lore definition
We first need actual real A.I.

Does Weta made all the design, or they just craft the props that Blomkamp artists render?

Men in Black have some fun weapons

you now remember the sound it makes

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Not AI, just IR sight with lock-on option + stabilizatop chassis. Modern armored vehicles have this ability, just need to incorporate it into firearm.

What about this masterpiece?

Hang on
Do we really want to give guns brains that tell them to shoot anything that moves? I mean, targeting AI is fine, but a real live decision making Ai with fully functioning cognition?

Honestly don't know, I was wondering the same thing

>he doesn't have a Samsung autogun

You mean UA 571-C Sentry guns, not M56 Smartguns, right?

Id give an arm and a leg to work for WETA, but then I wouldn't be much good to them...

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Calicos are some of the worst firearms ever made.

Youd think she wouodnt want to have anything to do with the movie given the cheesy premise

There was the soviet autonomous sentry system for missile silos, with automatic grenade launcher, shoots perimeter by activation of motion sensors, scatter everything with grenade fragments so doesnt need that much accuracy.

Death to videodrome, long live the new flesh

I really like this aesthetic. Is this some 60s retro future style?

Your eyes may not notice, but your brain does.
Try remembering something from a CG heavy shitfest versus an old school actioner with practical effects, like squibs and blanks.
The older movie will retain some emotional, adrenal chemical memory. You brain was noticing everything in that heightened scene.
The newer movie will seem insubstantial, even though some aspects may have seemed very exciting at the time.

more like coldwar retro future

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Yeah, they should be using prop guns that have a "kicking" mechanism hidden in the body.
Something that shakes the gun and maybe lights up the muzzle.

There are literally toys like this. Should be easy enough to swap the guts over to the weapon design of choice.

Would make the FX work easier and more realistic too.
Because it gives the artists an in-frame set of references.

>40Watts

This is barely anything. How would that even work?

in b4
>2 girls shooting pistols.webm

we dont know the resistance to know the voltage
but if the resistance is 300 it can be very letal

Daily reminder that this is built on Thompson because it could fire the longest before malfunctioning.

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“Dick, you’re fired!”

Why can’t any of the sequels/reboots even come close?

agreed op,
for the doubting brainlets, look at Hard Boiled.
would it be half as kino as it is if it had gay CGI flashes? Thought not bruv

The problem is that it neither looks nor sounds good if you know what it's supposed to look and sound like.
The brainlets are the ones who don't know or care about details and the reason why producers do whatever is easier, seeing that their product will sell regardless.

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>If it looks good and sounds good there is no problem
see this is the problem because neither of these ever happens

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Whose fault is that, CGI, the actors' or the director?

oh man, is this from one of those shitty low budget movies on netflix or hulu?

the actresses for never so much as poking a gun with a stick

believe it was a cbs show

actor and director
actors for being pussies and not wanting to use blanks because its too loud for my little ears even with earpro and the director for letting them get away with it

>Initial plans were to base the M41A on the Heckler & Koch MP5A3, using the weapon's original 1970s straight magazines; this original design can still be seen in the film on Private Frost's "PEACE THROUGH SUPERIOR FIREPOWER" T-shirt. However, James Cameron wanted the rifles to produce a large, impressive muzzle flash and this was not possible with the MP5's 9mm round. As a result, the M1A1 Thompson was adopted as the base weapon, using the larger .45 ACP round

I don't remember much of the smart gun lore but it would basically shoot anything that was not a marine. the marine wielding it was just there to carry it, the gun did the rest

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Fairly certain this was a dream sequence or some shit like that.

Still though, looks awful

all three, only answer

that fucking cancer trigger

Its sad to see this kind of bad CGI and actors without proper firearm training. Especially when they started from this in pilot episode, where the entire scene was made around very realistic gun handling and effects.

That is sad. It is because its so much cheaper and easier but the reason why it happens so much even in multi-million dollar budget films is that the majority of movie goers are so braindead they couldn't tell the difference in a hundred years(same goes for why movie fights and shooting techniques are mostly terrible) and the movies visibly suffer for it at all fronts.

I fucking hate no recoil hackers

I remember reading that the original Starship Troopers movie got a Guinness world record for most bullets fired.

Is this true?

Thats why I liked John Wick a lot, the plot is not that great but the fight scenes and guns are realistic

It looks like he shot Gordon Ramsey at 0.07

>where the entire scene was made around very realistic gun handling and effects.
>that shooting accurately when it's not even you pulling the trigger or holding the gun
>all those knee shots that instantly incapacitate
>all those guys with guns in their hands flailing around like squid monkeys.

I get what youre saying obviously at least they tried somewhat in that case.

There's also the fact that it's safer for all involved not to have a bunch of chucklefuck librul actors wandering around with blank-adapted weapons that can still potentially blind someone if they ND whilst pointing it in someone's face.

yep the whole draw of the movie for anybody not just filling a seat was the step up in action quality and choreography

John Wick made by two former stuntmen, they know what is a real dangerous stunt, and what is cheap CGI on greenscreen room.

Or retards like Jon-Erik Hexum who "pretend" to kill themselves as a joke with a blank-firing gun and really do blow their brains out and die on-set.

or Bruce Lee's son who got shot and killed in The Crow when in a previous scene they used a revolver with actual rounds in the cylinder (but the bullets were pulled and the powder removed and the bullets re seated) for a scene but some one pulled the trigger at some point and it ignited the primer which didn't have enough force to make the bullet exit the barrel but still left it in the barrel (squib load). So in the next scene when they loaded the revolver with blanks and it fired it launched the bullet killing him.

anything not tagged with a friendly beacon was basically game for the gun to track but the operator still had to pull the trigger if i'm remembering the colonial marine technical manual correctly, that being said there were comments from some of the marines that each gun had a "personality" of sorts, some would track center mass 100% of the time while others would not, some snapped their aim and other had some drift to them, the smartgun operator had to really get a feel for the gun, not something that even most marines would be able to pick up and use as well as the designated user. newer models of the gun were "spooky" to some users as they would track phantom signals at times

newt almost got wasted by drake because his gun tracked her and he let loose, was only hick's lightning fast reaction that saved her by swinging the barrel away with his pulse rifle

would commit sin for her though

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>the expanse
>where everything is basically recoil compensated gyrojet

The one universe where disconnected recoilless weapons make sense and you use it as an example.

>tfw you find out it was just a mockup cast for the film, and no real G-11 was used in film

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Well G11s aren't easy to come by.

tfw no scorn

Nigga, are you out of your fucking mind? John Wick has some of the gayest CGI when it comes out to shootouts. Muzzle flashes, blood, bullets hitting scenery, all looks extremely weightless and cheap.

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To ensure hit probability

John Wick 2 has a lot more bad scenes than the first, but is still good

That's basically how semi-autonomous weapon systems are evolving. By the end of the century, an infantryman's job will be to sit in a ditch 100m away from the point of contact, watching a selection of camera feeds on a militarized iPad as his six or seven walking rifles autonomously advance on the enemy position before pressing the 'Kill' button once he's checked the rifle-bot hasn't accidentally targeted a civilian.

Posting sci-fi guns

>dude Keanu went to train with the top trick shooter in the world and fired a million bullets every day until he got good to make it look realistic
>one hour of awful GCI gunshots
>silenced guns that do *phew phew* so quiet they can have a shootout without the people around them noticing