Racism

Is pic related racist.
Serious discussion.

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Of course its racist.

I never understood the blm movement i feel like native Americans are treated way worse in America.

>my life is so trivial and meaningless that I have to complain about a logo to a sports team.

it's really not. Racism is a social construct

They're treated far better than White Americans and receive many privileges not afford to White Americans, who are by far the most oppressed group in the country.

Racism - believing not all races are equal
at least that's according to polish wiki.
Basically racism is a common sense and not inherently evil by itself.

Would it still be racist if he was green

No

Why are you so obsessed with people's skin color

The one thing I give blm credit for is sticking up for their race.

When we do it's "racist" but we can still give them credit for it.

Natives however don't really give a shit about the logo.

It's sjw white ppl who are freaking out about it.

For my international friends. This logo is the Cleveland Indians logo and they are playing for the word series in baseball right now. So discussion on this matter is heating up.

yes its racist, moreover the teeth are triggering the british.
take it down now.

No, it's not, it's a cartoon character mascot for a baseball team. You're welcome

It dosent involve a white woman getting analy ravaged by a black man.

Ofc its racist you scum!

>Is pic related racist.

Does it discriminate, cause discrimination or influence discrimination against native Americans in any way? Does it portray native Americans in a negative light or cause them to be stereotyped in a negative way?

If you cannot answer yes to any of those questions, then it is not racist.

It's a fucking comic picture. I hate how people always overpoliticize every little thing.

No. Unlike Sambo (which Chief Wahoo is endlessly compared to), Wahoo was not designed with the intent of disparaging, lampooning, or belittling Native Americans. He was created to convey the "unbridled enthusiasm" of the Cleveland Indians team, which is how the vast majority of Indians fans use him. Chief Wahoo is a Cleveland icon.

Some people dress in redface to Indians games but that's a different issue entirely. If a white guy used blackface to dress as Fat Albert the issue at hand would be the blackface, not the fact that the cartoon character is black.

Yes, it is, which is why Sup Forums loves it. Pic very related.

They should just change the name to the Cleveland honkeys. Since you can't be racist against whites everyone would be happy.

Maybe even the Cleveland cumskins.

I'm all for this. they are just words.

>100% prairie nigger
>grew up on rez
>shacking up with my 100% white wife
Its not racist, its honestly more endearing.
That team looks to that smug red bastard and vows to try their best to compete in a historic american pastime, my people are out numbered 10 million to one and seeing that simple gesture of a happy crowd cheering for a redskin makes facing extinction a little easier

No it is not. The Cleveland Indians like the Washington Redskins (which I'll give them that one, how about we change the name of Detroit Lions to the Detroit Niggers, it's really the same thing) and the Florida State Seminoles get this shit all the time.

Usually from the same SJW native American woman who manages to get herself on TV and scream racism.

The only reason why this is news right now is because Cleveland is in the World Series. This will continue to be in the news until the series is over. If Cleveland wins, we will hear about until next season.

>the size of that nose on the NY Jews cap

They know it as well as we do.

A little bit, but more in the casual "Who gives a shit, get thicker skin" way, not the "This will make people hate indians" way. It's racist in the same way that drawing all whites as WASPS who can't handle anything more spicy than ketchup is racist, technically but so minor that no one really cares.

Could you imagine this pic being the mascot of a team, perhaps called the Negros? Now many people in Sup Forums just stood up on their chairs and started cheering when they saw this caricature. That should tell you all you need to know.

Its clearly racist. That being said, can whites have reservations and fuck off from this shit progressive society too. I would, would you?

They should totally make these teams - kek

We do, it's called gated communities and country clubs.

If the SJWs go after the Blackhawks logo I'll lose my shit. Easily the best sports logo IMO.

FSU Seminoles, Illinois illini, and Utah Utes usually don't get it as much anymore because the tribes stepped in to protect them. The Seminole tribe of Florida had to come out and tell those crybabies to fuck off and give FSU their blessing provided they could sell merchandise around the copyright. From that and other ventures the Seminole tribe now owns every Hard Rock cafe in the U.S.


It's not like it's a redhead indian with a feather sticking out. Osceola is a human crafted to look like a Seminole actually looked during the Seminole wars. he rides out on a horse with a flaming spear. not Insulting at all.

Where can I get these hats?

I own an Indians hat due to being a major league fan.

Probably.

Do I give a shit? No.

Don't like it, don't support it. Even better buy the team and change the logo. Otherwise STFU.

Yes and that's okay. But why do we pay millions of dollars to watch people toss balls into nets?

TRIBE IN 5 WOOT FUCK CHICAGO.

The native population now is larger than it was when columbus first landed.

If yall would spend a bit of time looking towards thethe future instead of bitching about

> muh whyte man

And drinking yourself to death then you'd be fine

While I agree and thank the Seminole Tribe for stepping in when they did (being a Nole fan myself), I believe that teams like Cleveland, Atlanta, and Washington should have changed their names to reflect a local tribe of that area. I believe it really was a missed opportunity by these organizations. As for Washington's logo, no change would have been needed. Just change the name from Redskins to The Piscataways. Then have the tribe come in an endorsed.

That would have put those SJW fuckers back in their place like the Seminole Tribe did.

No, but this is.

Pretty accurate. The left screams "racist" at do many little things it makes much of society tune out from actual racial hatred.

This cuck rages about the chief all day ask him
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>they are just words.

Why can't more people realize this? It's so frustrating that we take words more seriously than actions at this point

>indian guy joins the team
>hes petty good
>rename the team in honor of him, create a caricature of him for the team mascot
>flash forward like 100 years
>its racist and a shame to have that logo o that name

I would totally buy these hats and unironically support these teams.

Would there also be the Chicago Pavement Apes?

No.

If you say its racist then you a fucking PC faggot.

if they removed all the references that a few idiots think need to be removed, the native american population would gripe about america's refusal to even acknowledge the native american population...let's face it, if we didn't have the redskins, the braves, the indians, the chiefs, the blackhawks, and the casinos, kids wouldn't even know what a native american is these days

Something like 80% of native americans don't give a fuck. Only the 1/32 part academics scream about it.

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I would buy a New York Jews hat

No its not. Racism is treating someone different because of race. How does using a caricature as your mascot do that.

Native American here
I honestly don't give a fuck about it, pretty sure it's just white liberal cucks getting offended. There are much more important things to be focusing on than this anyway.

change.org/p/nhl-chicago-blackhawks-retire-the-racist-chicago-blackhawks-logo

They have, just no one gives a shit.

no

Are you a native american or a 1/2991238 native american?

What the fuck? I just commented on this on FB around an hour ago. Were you reading WWN?

This
No one gave a shit for however long it was around until sjw's showed up

I would be fine with any of those.

Also, how are any of those different than the Minnesota Vikings? There's literally a white equivalent out there but it 'doesn't count'.

Already exists.

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It's just kikes doing what they do

I don't think it's racist at all
T. Actual indian

I would be ok with a team that depicts English men as pompous and snotty

Miami Spics?

Lips too small.

Nose not flat enough.

I am disappoint.

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From India, right?

Caucasian doesn't really roll of the tongue.

Whites is better.

Also you can tell the person who made this is pretty bitter and jealous of white people's success. That dollar sign should be a bowler hat or something.

>"Chief Wahoo triggers me I'd better make a logo that shows white people how it feels to be stereotyped by a cartoon"

>*draws blonde haired Wahoo with a money feather*

>"Th-that'll show those crackers!"

>literally called themselves indians because they were the first team to have an indian player

The cucks in Toronto were making a huge stink over the Indians

Made me want the Jays to lose, and so they did. way to go sjws

imagine #blacklivesmatter being an NFL team. how upset would you be? you got colin "the kneeling quarterback" nick protesting, and half the country's shitting on itself.

#redskins insults an entire Culture

you can only afford to say that because you're whiter than paint

>implying you can be racist towards an extinct """""race"""""
Glad they're dead, desu. Long live militaristic colonialism.

Somebody make a logo what the sjw would find acceptable.
Now an art thread.

Ohiofag here, can confirm INJUNS IN 5

the best way to increase the value of any word is to artificially limit it's usability.

faggots don't realize but saying 'nigger' outloud actually devalues the word, which would eventually [spoiler]end racism forever.[/spoiler]

I'm from cleveland fuck you
Every time (and there has been many times) someone calls chief wahoo racist and demands it be changed the actual native population of ohio argues in favor of it since according to them he is one of the few pop cultural references to their culture to still exist.
It's only ever bleeding heart white liberals that give a shit.

What's the one way to get people to want to do something?

Have a bunch of Faggy millennials tell you not to do it.

I actually have and wear a cleveland caucasians shirt.
People don't seem to get why though.
Basically I wear it to show that white people don't care about our race being used as mascots, that we are strong enough to take a joke at our expense and that if other groups cannot they are admitting they are lesser than whites.
I've been wearing it alongside my indians shirts all week

>Caucasian doesn't really roll of the tongue.
"Cleveland Caucasians" has alliteration going for it it sounds better than "Cleveland whites"

>get triggered by chief wahoo
>make a white caricature
>white people think it's awesome

it isn't even a joke, its just a cartoon of a smiling redman with a feather. That's it.

Its not like he's scalping a dude.