They are being bombed/drones because Obama said he didn't want boots on the ground.
All this amounts to is more $ for the military industrial complex. This is what America wages war for today, the bomb makes donate heavily to political campaigns, and the politicians keep the bombs falling.
Charles Sullivan
Why would Obama and Hillary kill their own love child?
Parker Rodriguez
>couldn't win in Vietnam against Rice farmers >couldn't win in Iraq against Insurgents >can't win against ISIS
US can only bomb but rarely achieves any political goals through that
Landon Ortiz
We could destroy them in about two weeks if we actually wanted to. Right now we are covertly supporting them as a way to oust Assad from power without Russia getting pissed off. The bombing campaign is just to make it seem like the Obama administration is making an effort to actually fight them.
Caleb Williams
>talks shit about our military >your military is so cucked that it isn't allowed to carry out offensive operations
Wew lad.
Nathan Jackson
why are you defending these pointless wars?
Vietnam was pointless Iraq was pointless and ISIS happened only because the Iraq invasion.
typical retarded burger
Nathan Torres
Yep like i suspected. Like WTF? I truly hate patriots. >I was told to worship the regime I was born under no mater what! If you support your Obama government you need to get killed immediately.
Do you seriously think this guy supports his government blindly. >look at me I have blind allegiance to whoever is in controls of this flag. Patriots are brain dead idiots. If you support america you support obama.
Nathan Sanchez
I'm not saying they weren't pointless wars Achmed. We could have won Vietnam if it wasn't for political interference. I will agree Iraq war 2 electric boogaloo served absolutely no purpose and the world would have been better off if we didn't fight that war.
Joseph Lee
Because somewhere along the way our government forgot that the purpose of a military is to kill people and break shit.
Jacob Campbell
I don't agree with that logic. I love my country, but I've thought every president since Reagan has been shit. I definitely agree that on the international stage we tend to be dicks. For real though fuck Obama.
John Hernandez
This.
Evan Gonzalez
>What has the IS? Some terrorists and old stolen military equipment? I can understand when some of you Euroshits don't know basic history beyond your own selfish borders, but the routing of Iraqi forces and stealing their, and by extension our, military equipment, just fucking happened a year or two ago.
Jayden Perez
It's been re purposed for continuous operations as its business model. Build bombs, throw bombs, build bombs, throw bombs...ad infitinum.
Michael King
>why can't you just shoot an ideology bro?
Ryder Ross
We should have listened to Eisenhower.
William Williams
Just what we need; more American blood on the ground bailing out another worthless shitskin failed state across the world. Let Europe deal with it. Oh wait, they won't because they need the poverty-level birth rates these rats have to boost the manpower of their shrinking underclass.
Jaxson Lewis
I have to say I was like you before I woke up. You know lets be all >Yo we are the people of X lets support one another.
Still have this sentiment. I find this patriot thinking childish. More of a control mechanism really and absurdly fake.
First ask yourself if you support USA or whatever (lets take the USA example) who are the citizens of the USA?
You are thinking right now about your patriot bros. However there are people who have USA citizenship that you hate and I bet you hate these fuckers more then you do hate some other people.
How about flag burning leftists? Or other more colorful people who boast how they hate the USA.
Yet you are sworn to protect them. You must protect these people, not because of their character, not because of their skill or merit. They have a peace of paper saying they drooped out of a vagina inside of the territory of the USA.
This is all. You need to protect these people. Its self destructive.
You are protecting the sickness who is destroying your own country from the inside.
I really love to have a good conversation with you.
So answer genuinely.
I bet you known people who are not USA citizens and who you like mutch more then you like the leftists in your country.
So the question is who is more important? The non-citizen who is 100% or 99% (not on the patriotism thing) on board with you or the USA hating flag burning fag who will dodge the draft hate on the troops for defending him so he can shit all over the country that is allowing him to exist?
The real solution is to associate with people who you agree with not people the USA gov gives papers to.
This patriotism nonsense is fanboyism for countries nothing more.
A country is to serve its people not the people serve its country. A government is a necessity to represent its proper people and not be a worship session for the prime dictator.
Hudson Gonzalez
>USA >fighting Isis
Pick one. Usa literally airdrops scores of tonnes of weapons and ammo into Syria.
Nathan Ramirez
Why would US military destroy US government's project?
Levi Richardson
>why can the USA military not destroy the Islamic State?
Because destroying the IS would help the Syrian Government and Russia, which they're obviously against.
>What has the IS? Some terrorists and old stolen military equipment?
The latest equipment, weapons and vehicles the U.S. can drop to the ""moderate"" groups.
>Is the USA military this level of shit now? Are the trannies getting triggered after shooting muslims with drones all day or what?
Too scared of Russia and S-3/400 to do anything now.
Thomas Williams
What happened with japan?
We could..
We could shut them down, But in this political age we are playing chess and not battleship.
So thats why.
Thomas Nelson
>The latest equipment, weapons and vehicles the U.S. can drop to the ""moderate"" groups.
I hope to god they are dropping old USA equipment not better stuff its own military has.
At one point you have to ask yourself is the USA military retarded beyond help (giving weapons to people who hate them) > Oh no the peaceful rebels who told me from the start want to destroy me of the face of the earth are now turning on me? >What to do? I know I give them more equipment that will show them! >What they are using this to attack me????
Or its playing some super complicated game where the destruction of the USA is its starting point.
Christian Adams
Our Military is a joke now
Ryder Sanders
L2politics dumbfuck
Kayden Lopez
Is it a joke because it cares more about SJW tranny bathrooms and affirmative action crap then having people competent enough to fight? Or is it for another reason?
Josiah Sullivan
So any counter points pol?
Luis Bailey
So who thinks that ISIS is a USA project to destabilize the region?
William Hall
Dammit Sup Forums I wanted to have a conversation with And see him respond to is there anyone who will defend patriotism here?
Justin Robinson
Oh where are you patriots? answer my questions about patriotism or do I need to start a new thread about this?
Thomas Hill
It definitely can but ISIS is a far more useful tool to pressure Russia in the Syrian theatre than anything. For now the US is still on Kissinger's foreign politics so that's the plan. Because you have massive unwarranted self importance and no one will read your abhorrent, badly written, mess of a text that you wrote, with questions that are answered all day long.
Chase Cruz
No idea OP.
Colton Cox
Really? can you even give one counter point to a question about why defend a country that actively tries to kill you and defend people who hate you and your country?
Sounds pretty insane to stand with people who openly want to destroy you and you must protect them simply because the gov gave them a peace of paper saying they are citizens.
Jacob Parker
seriously the whole world or most of the population hates the terrorist supporting american government.
Parker Walker
Redpilled pic.
Jonathan Ward
Who the fuck is stupid enough to believe the US military is in Syria fighting ISIS? lol
Grayson Roberts
>jojo
REALLY MAKES YOU ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA
Lucas Reyes
we don't want to.
Josiah Nguyen
>defend people who hate you and your country Flag burning leftists ? That's protected by the first amendment. That's disgusting, don't get me wrong, and is a symptom of the era of globalization, but as long as no real treason, you can't and don't have to do anything. The real problems stands in their hypocrisy towards the supposed country they hate. >the gov gave them a peace of paper saying they are citizens Look I agree that citizenship is viewed rather lowly nowadays, anchor babies being the most terrible crime. A good citizenship should be inherited or earned through a foreign legion, or granted for service to the nation (mainly scientists and achieving foreigners) and recognize only one citizenship. However you'd be absolutely delusional if you think most of the population is just "american by papers", or that most of the population hates the AF (armed force ,everyone hates the Air force), despite disagreeing since everyone saw what a masquerade Afghanistan and 2nd Iraqi war were. Wanna know what you were hearing all year long 6 or 7 years ago ? "bring our boys back"
Easton Rodriguez
your average news watcher, and most hillary voters
but even people that hate trump are starting to say "we should be fighting isis WITH the russians!" as if that's actually possible.
Colton Rodriguez
>That's protected by the first amendment.
And why is this a good idea? Why are you keeping people who openly hate you? You who are sworn to defend them?
This looks like a one sided relationship.
Eli Sullivan
Why not?
Austin Rivera
its supposed to be so that homegrown american patriots wont get buttraped for saying the government is full of kikes.
but they don't do that.
Adam Morris
>its supposed to be so that homegrown american patriots wont get buttraped for saying the government is full of kikes. >but they don't do that.
Wait what are you saying who is doing what now?
Alexander Fisher
Why would we attack our own proxy forces?
Chase Young
Because Freedom of speech is one of the basic principle the nation was founded on. By opening the gate of "Criticism or hatred of the US can be prosecuted or silenced", you let the flood of lawmakers changing what "the US" means. Soon the very crtiic of the US government would be illegal, and that would be terrible if said government were to become tyrannical or hijacked by a foreign or international influence, very much like it is now. Why do you think it's the Media and not the government that's attacking Trump when he says he will accept the results of the election only if he wins, implying that the system is rigged ? We all know the media is a proxy of the establishment, but they still have to follow the rules imposed by the founding father. >Why are you keeping people who openly hate you? >You who are sworn to defend them? It's not just them. If critics of the US foreign policy of these lasts 50 years are mostly legitimate, you have to recognize that it does a damn good job at keeping conflict out of the US. It's not only protecting the dissident,rotten fruits of the basket. It's protecting all the apple trees apples grow on, and the land they're planted in.
Luke Rivera
I get that the USA has a constitution however the judges and the supreme court have played it for years: >Advocating treason is not protected and a lot of other crap.
Besides it being free speech and legal is irrelevant if you have another law that will make it a crime so you can get them for this.
Never understood the USA obsession with the constitution that is self torture really. What is so magical about the constitution if people can change it with amendments?
Its not like a holy scripture of the fathers.
Aiden Jenkins
I get that you are afraid of the current gov, I totally get this.
Giving it power is a bad idea. However I'm more speaking in a abstract sense of lets say going to another earth like planet and only people you agree go with you and you create a new government.
And while your concerns exist if you are not a full blown true anarchist (not the ANTIFA homos) your logic applies to every law in every government. >"Criticism or hatred of the US can be prosecuted or silenced" Yet treason is silenced even in words, free speech will not protect treason (snowden) or advocating to overthrow the USA gov.
So basically you have the same thing today.
>Soon the very critic of the US Yet they can extend the definition of what treason really is and arrest you on this, so...
>There are certain well-defined and limited classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been thought to raise a Constitutional problem. These include the lewd and obscene, the profane, the libelous and the insulting or 'fighting' words – those which by their very utterances inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace
Besides if a gov wants to get you and is corrupt they can fabricate annything.
>Dang faun some child porn on his PC, yep totally legitimate look at these time stamps that anyone can fabricate he totally has CP lets send him to jail forever.
>Sick pedo
The police can simply plant this on your machine even with fun times like gov made Trojans.
Elijah Richardson
>Never understood the USA obsession with the constitution that is self torture really. >What is so magical about the constitution if people can change it with amendments? Have you ever studied american history ? Like honestly, not trying to be insulting, because that would be dreadfully unaware of the philosophy and morals of the time, and the goals of those who fund that youtube.com/watch?v=NM1RSih-tU8 Here is a cool documentary where you'll learn a lot about it. >However I'm more speaking in a abstract sense In really theorical sense, the fact that they are citizen by blood rights would give them just as much of a fair voice on the subject of what the country must be that those who supports the government. they're the descendent of people that fought for, built and died for this country. If they feel like the country has a problem, and what it represents is a problem, then perhaps the real problem comes from education (or the lack of thereof) and a break in parental lineage (much like we saw since the baby boomers the the gradual overtake of the school by cultural marxists)
Hudson Gomez
Kikes run our media and we're fighting wars for Israel. They even say the ISIS leader was Israeli Mossad. So no we won't be defeating ISIS without Trump. Obama is helping ISIS.
Easton Morris
They're not worth the trouble.
Gavin Ward
>Here is a cool documentary where you'll learn a lot about it. OK. I give it a look however I doubt there will be anything outside of propaganda in it or something like >This is the USA constitution, love it for no reason whatsoever. or >Here is the USA constitution, its the peace of paper some people wrote on his continent therefore love it forever.
What exactly is so magical about constitutions any constitution? Its not like its a unchanging document of the fathers, its a bunch of laws requiring a super majority, it can be changed like any other law.... It was changed in history.... Why is it magical?
>they're the descendent of people that fought for, built and died for this country And why is this giving these any rights? Do your kids go for your crimes to jail after you die?
>citizen by blood rights I don't support the idea of citizens, not by blood and not by soil and not by any other way.
From my point of view the constitution and citizenship is used to dumb down the population of anyone who has anything right wing inside of them.
Its constant propaganda >Love the constitution and you don't like how these other citizens are advocating Marxism and shiting all over the flag >No bad user can not do anything the constitution forbids it!
The same way with immigration if these people get a peace of paper you are expected to 100% love them like anyone else. >Oh Hilary gave anyone on the planet a USA citizenship looks like we don't need to build a wall we all are citizens of the USA.
Alexander Edwards
00:14 >The constitution is everywhere Dumb like fuck. So are sewer lines. Get ready for dumb propaganda anons.
00:29 >Manual for a new nation Factually wrong! Constitutions are and can be changed. Your constitution of today is not the constitution the founders wrote. The propagandist voice is pissing me off. This is a film for toddlers full of lies and simplifications.
00:34 >The constitution is like a big band HAHAHAHAHA XD The level of stupidity in this film is amusing to me.
So cheap, so stupid.
01:02 >I'm making a road trip to find out how the constitution works in the 21 century X'D Stop its to cheassy
01:22 >The framers of the constitution wanted And this is 999% irrelevant since anyone can change it and we are no longer using their constitution. All you need is a super majority, why are we talking about these people now? Their constitution no longer exists, you added amendments to it.
Zachary Evans
>why is the us not killing Isis REALY MAKES YOU THINK
Fucking newfag get out
Jason Nelson
ISIS is directly funded, supported and trained by the USA, you pollock fuck. We aren't even actually fighting them. Its a propaganda front so the stupid ignorant pieces of shit here in the USA can rot in front of their TVs and think that this rotten dying empire is still doing something good for the world while we just fuck it up more and more.
Ayden Baker
>Its a propaganda front so the stupid ignorant pieces of shit here in the USA can rot in front of their TVs and think that this rotten dying empire is still doing something good for the world while we just fuck it up more and more.
So is IS (why are you all saying ISIS? Its the Islamic State not ISIS) not existing and the USA fabricated them or is the USA fucking up the world with IS?
Josiah Carter
02:47 The films now switches to some dude wanting to buy a motorcicle for no reason whatsoever.
holy child distraction batman talk about trying to fool/insult your audience.
PS: There was this man flashed in the movie I don't know why I screen shoot him.
Oliver Cooper
05:25 >Look kids the constitution lets us grow drugs!!!!
Complete degeneracy. Like expected.
Jaxson Clark
My god essays can be write how bad this film is. Is this a film for children?
Is this shown in schools?
Or is it for the adults with a child's brain.
So this film is made about idiots who are patriots love the constitution and are smoking pot, you are getting more degenerate every day america.
For the love of fuck it turned into a pro drug movie really fast. Like WTF even on a staying on topic level it failed!
Eli Scott
Now we find out our favorite man he is >The YODA of the constitution
I don't even know what this is supposed to mean.
He gives more propaganda.
Another question
Why are Hollywood and american made movies this level of shit?
This Propaganda *Documentary* is full of pointless shit and stories.
No substance only wast of time. You have all this money and you waste it on making the film full of more shit and longer with pointless scenes.
You know what is a good mark of a great film one guy in front of a cheap camera talking while you can hear the fans in the background.
No BS, no shopping for bikes or cute talking. No >YODA of the constitution No >The constitution is like a bog bang
One man in front of a cheap camera giving the facts pure facts no nonsense.
Jacob Rivera
Because we're secretly supporting them. USA and the IS are the beasts in revelation, where it says one beast gets his power and authority from another, these are the 2 beasts. Look at how Islam is spreading and tell me I'm wrong.
Charles Hughes
Maybe if your cucked country had freedom of speech you could talk about the Jews, but you can't so best of luck.
Kayden Perez
>Entire IS military is the size of one or two infantry divizions with very few tanks or decent equipment >They literally go into battle on Mad Max style war rigs >The combined forces of Syria, Kurdistan, Iraq, Russia, and NATO can't defeat them in 3 years