Ares>Ego>Vulture>X-24

Ares>Ego>Vulture>X-24

>Ego above Vulture
Fuck that

I agree.

People can bitch about Ares CGI look at the end, but his human/ghostly form was pretty spooky. Ego worked and offered an emotional gut punch twist. Vulture was really underwhelming and a waste of Keaton. X-24 felt out of place in Logan.

personal ranking
vulture>ego>ares>x24

>Make dark and edgy superhero film
>Build the film around realism and stripping out the fantastical elements
>Suddenly clone wolverine
>Suddenly magic serum
>Suddenly mad scientist explaining his evil plan to rid the world of mutants with corn syrup

Logan shit the bed as soon as X-24 shows up

I can get behind that

>Ares
>That bony, greasy head that looks like Flanders with wimp factor turned up by twenty and shop him onto an oiled herculean body
I can't ever take that shit seriously. Ever.

Covering that with a helmet doesn't help because he still has the same voice, and I still think that he's Ned Flanders.

>>Diana I'm giving you one last-i-diddly-doodly chance to join a'fore I gotta ding dang diddly do ya in!

>Anything>Vulture

Yeah, it had a really strong first half but the second they went to the farm (which was a huge fucking cliche) things went downhill. I kind of liked the fight scene at the end, though.

>movie Ares over anything
Shit cg, shit acting, shit fight, shit design, more of Snyder's misplaced christian imagery with him being essentially discount satan.

>Vulture not at the top

What are you, some kind of fucking fag.

They should of made the fight scene a sword fight or something.

Even going to the farm was retarded. They had an army of mercenaries hunting them. They were just putting that family in danger by going down there. Then the whole fucking family gets killed exactly as anyone could've predicted.

R-rated claw fights were fun, but the movie itself is a complete mess.

>Ares
No, they fucked that up hard.

>X24
Is he even a character? Does that count?

>Ego
Well Kurt Russel is great, but that's that Ego had going for him

>Vulture
Keaton. Legit great character. As a bonus, didn't die.

Vulture > Ego > Ares > X-24

Ares would be higher if it weren't for
>looking like a tweedy english git in ancient times
>being a cgi monster fight in the end
>keeping the stache while being a cgi monster fight

I was wondering why I didn't know why I hadn't seen Ares. Never saw Wonder Woman. Still don't feel like seeing it.

>Ares at the top
He's just a glorified arms dealer who shows up for a lame CGI fight scene.

Somebody needs to draw this.

this. i remember reading a review that called the fight scene a "video game boss fight" and that's probably my favorite description of it. two characters who are supposed to be warriors and they mostly just threw special effects at each other

>should of
Enjoy your summer vacation while it lasts

Why the hell does Sup Forums have such a raging boner for the freaking Vulture of all villains in capefilms? This is literally the only place I've seen where people won't stop gushing so autistically about him all the time.

Huh?

It's not a hateboner, just a meme about how he's a gud boi who dindu nuffin.

These fucking mouseketeers treat every new MCU villain like the greatest villain ever. It's like clockwork. People were talking about Ego being the best and now that shit;s completely disappeared after Homecoming.

because he has an actual relatable motivation instead of "I'M GOING TO USE MY POWER TO TAKE OVER DA WOOOOORLD"

Contrarian.

regardless of how good or bad vulture was, the other three mentioned were all shitty and disappointing which is probably why people like vulture the most

Best part of an otherwise weak movie. Most cape-movie villains have been uncharismatic lumps, with only a small few being memorable in any way.

>>>Diana I'm giving you one last-i-diddly-doodly chance to join a'fore I gotta ding dang diddly do ya in!

>implying being a glorified arms dealer isn't perfect for the God of War
Seriously user, are you just bitching for the sake of bitching? Cause that's what it sounds like.

Having fight scenes actually be appropriately brutal for a Wolverine fight was great. Beyond that everything about the 2nd half of the movie was a fucking mess.

The R-rated fights were great but not great enough to make up for everything else. I don't really see why everybody said Logan was such an amazing movie.

Because Vulture was a tragic villain of sorts. He started with just wanting to give some good life to his family and then his greed made him go more and more insane and when he stopped being under the radar he snapped and went full madman.

Pic kinda related, I saved it from other thread but I personally think Ego is a really good villain in another area entirely. And Zemo is still the best villain of the MCU.

>regardless of how good or bad vulture was, the other three mentioned were all shitty and disappointing which is probably why people like vulture the most
That's a big part of it. But it's not even just those movies, it's capeshit in general.

Villains are bad. Marvel has had more villains, and thus more terrible ones, but even DC only has Zod-and-friends in their current run.

Scrapping alien tech in New York to become rich is relatable? Does that happen often anywhere?

And there's nothing unrelatable about wanting to take over the world if you have the power to.

You're fake news.
Green Goblin > Joker > Doc Ock > X-24

I would argue Vulture was never mad, just greedy and progressively more brazen as the story went on. I genuinely want to see him in the sequels.

>I don't really see why everybody said Logan was such an amazing movie.
I'm a horrible sucker for Westerns, and western genre mashups. I know that's a big part of why I like it, but given how unpopular westerns are generally that can't be the reason for other folks.

Ares was pretty lame, Dr. Poison was more interesting as a side villain

>I don't really see why everybody said Logan was such an amazing movie.
Maybe it's you who is the problem and not everybody else.

Do you honestly believe in that bullshit chart? If a villain is the better option than the hero then that's just awful writing. A villain is meant to be a character that you despise and want to lose.

>scrapping alien tech
>motivation

That's the means, not the motivation.

That chart is stupid. It's all about the portrayal. The Joker in TDK is just evil, and still leagues better than anything in the MCU.

>I don't really see why everybody said Logan was such an amazing movie.
It actually has a mature-feeling theme (not just violence and deadpool-tier-"""comedy"""), while managing to be truer to the character.

The characters' screen history elevates the film as well, even if that history is a horrible mess in itself.

I'm gonna save this image and use it to shitpost.

I said in the post that the pic was just kinda related. I don't believe it as much as I just found it a funny chart to fill with other stuff (I didn't did the villain pics there neither).

>A villain is meant to be a character that you despise and want to lose.
Not always, a villain is just an antagonistic force for the hero. There is a lot of stuff you can do with a villain and make him both earn your audience's sympathy and them wanting to see him lose, especially if you go with a well-intentioned extremist villain.

>green goblin meme
get your fat ass back to youtube, movieblob, we don't want you here

>this shit again
Stop waifuing Dr. Poison.

Of all the Wonder Rogues to drool over, why her? For fucks sake.

What the fuck was good about Ares? He was as undeveloped and cliche as they come. His only motivation to be a villain was bascially, "I am a villain".

>She went evil because she got cucked

The implications of Ego were incredibly fascinating. It's pretty amazing to me how GOTG of all things turned out to be so inspired by Greek mythology.

vulture>>>>>>>>>every other cinematic super villain

Just because he's the only villain in any recent superhero movie that's unique, relatable, and most importantly- still alive. Which isn't to say he was INCREDIBLE, just that he's not garbage.

...because she was the other villain in the movie?

>Of all the Wonder Rogues to drool over, why her?
She makes my dick tingle with that mask.

>waifuing a character because she exists
user, I will fucking slap you.

>Just because he's the only villain in any recent superhero movie that's unique, relatable, and most importantly- still alive.
>who is Zemo

Street-level villains are always more interesting than the guys who can end your planet with the wave of a hand.

People liked Vulture because in some ways his logic was actually pretty sound in the beginning, since he was a hard worker who just wanted to provide a good life for his family, and had that pulled out from under him so took matters into his own hands which went too far. Instead of just providing for his family, he became obsessed with it and took it too far.

People bring her up because she was the only other super villain in the movie, you mongoloid, and it's either her or Ares. And stating the obvious isn't waifuing, so stop your autistic rampage.

>tfw you are so lame people forget you were the main villain befor egetting hijacked by Ares

JUST

Hollywood writer here folks

> I need to autistically rank things

Have you ever read a fiction story in your entire life? That's like, kids book stuff. Or early late 19th, early 20th century fantasy.

>A villain is meant to be a character that you hate to love

Fixed for (You)

This, honestly.
His entire character can literally be summed up in "I want to wage war because I like to."
I don't mind stereotypical fattened up warmongers, but at least give them a bit of character! Pic very much related.
And before anyone says it: I appreciate that that they didn't want to make a comedy, but when the character who only exists to do one minute bits between levels in a video game has a more developed character than the main antagonist of a feature length film then something has gone very wrong.

Nah, son.

It would go like this.

Vulture > Ego > Ares > X-24.

Because he had tons of charisma power thanks to Ledger, and as a villain, actually manages to make the hero lose even if he wins.

Meanwhile, Leto Joker is a complete blasphemy and the opposite of Ledger, Nicholson and hell, even the Lego one.

Third post best post

You seem to not remember the fact that Logan even says as much before and as it happens, but Charles wants to be comfy.

>there are people who honestly believe vulture was in the right
Fucking brainlets I swear

>I kind of liked the fight scene at the end

I thought it was weird that none of the other kids really put up nearly as much a fight as Laura. Like they were all put through the same training but while Laura is laying into everything and everyone around her the rest of the kids just waddle around.

Like I'm not expecting them to triumph but at least make it difficult. They only killed like 2 guys before Pierce.

...

>He's just a glorified arms dealer
That's pretty much what Ares is supposed to be.

>I don't mind stereotypical fattened up warmongers, but at least give them a bit of character!
But that's the whole point of the character. Being simplistic so he works as a red herring for Diana's innocent view of things.

>shitty giant CGI monster
>over anything

This.

>>there are people who honestly believe vulture was in the right
>Fucking brainlets I swear
It's just that there are entire groups of Americans who genuinely believe everyone should have unlicensed, untraceable deadly weapons with them at all times. If that is what they believe, then Vulture is just doing what those people wanted.

Ares > * because I like pre-armor Ares and I didn't see any of the other films.

>Ares above anything

>Ares
>above anyone

Sheer delusion.

Vulture > Ego > X-24 > Ares

i thought ego was a planet with a face

He is

What exactly would be lost in that, if he had just a tiny bit of a character to him?
You can be a warmonger that loves war without that being your only defining characteristic.

Yeah I agree with this

>What exactly would be lost in that, if he had just a tiny bit of a character to him?
What I said, that he was portrayed that way to fit with Diana's simplistic view of the world, and it worked as a red herring so the final reveal had more of an impact on Diana's character.

>Diana I'm giving you one last-i-diddly-doodly chance to join a'fore I gotta ding dang diddly do ya in!

Doing the bare minimum with a character for the story to be functional is not doing a good job.
I mean granted, it fit into the story better than any given character in the Force Awakens, and apparently that's the best movie ever, so what the hell do I know.


Point is, people don't remember the characters from Red Alert because they told you what to do.
It's because they had the Romanov's legacy to consider on one hand, and a wooden nickel to not give on the other.
Could have just given you instructions and left it at that, but even a video game understood that characters exist to be characters, not just throwaway plot devices, even if that's their reason for being in the story.

Ares just looks cool, negro had like 15 minutes mostly used for the cgi orgy. And how he expected Diana to join him was stupid. That was a nice moustache though.
x-24? better use the cyborg guy.
Ego's a giant dick who is just following his nature.Not a fan of that sort of villain but you get to know him and Kurt russel is given enough screentime to deliver
Vulture was great overral, even made Peter realized where he belongs
So:
Vulture>Ego>Ares>X-24

Again, you're missing the point. The point is that we see all the movie through Diana's POV, at least on an emotional level. We get introduced into the nuances of the war along with her, as well as into the nuances of the rest of the characters. She's so focused about Ludendorff being Ares, and therefore being the only cause of war so that's what we also get to see, until we realize, along with her, than there's more to it than that.

I can't put my finger on why, but I really liked Ego as a villain. He just worked. I feel like I have the perfect balance of hating him as a villain and wanting him to get his, and also really enjoying him as a character.

Wouldn't Sandman count as a reluctant villain?Although I'm not sure he was a great villain.

He does nothing of note during the whole movie and gets killed ten minutes after he shows up. He's totally lame.

>There's more to it than that
Because the British guy was the bad guy all along. Got it.

>Diana I'm giving you one last-i-diddly-doodly chance to join a'fore I gotta ding dang diddly do ya in!

Sandman is more leaning towards trying to survive, because he has no qualms about stealing from people.
But then he went to shit tier when he changed his motivation from saving his daughter to killing peter.

The only real reluctant villain I can think of is Gamora's sister.

that's why it worked

Well, yeah, people are not necessarily what they seem. Steve Trevor's friends were criminals yet noble and this guy was supposed to be noble but was the big bad guy. It's not supposed to be anything mindblowing either, but it's a coming of age story for Diana, and that's what she learns in the movie.

>He's just a glorified arms dealer who shows up for a lame CGI fight scene.
That's Vulture

>Diana I'm giving you one last-i-diddly-doodly chance to join a'fore I gotta ding dang diddly do ya in!
nice dubs too

Ego and Vulture are about tied for me. Ego was probably the best 'slow burn' villain we've had since Obadiah Stane in terms of starting out as an ally and sliding until a gut-punch villain reveal. In the Vulture's case, I liked how his character worked in terms of his motivations and the fact that he remained a sort of "street villain". Plus the fact that he was literally scavenging remains was a nice touch.

Ares had potential and the twist worked, but that fight at the end just....didn't really do anything. It was a loud, bland mess.

X-24 was stupid. Liev Schreiber's Sabretooth would've been a better enemy to bring in; fighting between him and Logan would've had more emotional weight and we could've gotten some actual dialogue out of it rather than Hugh Jackman screaming for two.

Opinions incoming
Vulture>Ego>Ares>X-24

Vulture was pleasantly surprising in being a complex (by comparison) and actually threatening villain.

Ego was the sort of villain I love in that he's an unrepentant asshole with a lot of power. It's a guilty pleasure.

Ares was fine, exactly what I would have expected from him except that they wasted the twist by making it obvious that the german guy wasnt Ares. Also he looked like a wimp in human form which threw me off.

24 was a goddamn abomination. What a fucking let down, and easily the lowest point in a fucking awesome movie. Literally should have been anything else. Ramped up Sabertooth, Daken, I would have accepted fucking Wildchild. Anything but that.

That's not much of an achievement.

I didn't like Ego. His disconnect from humanity was presented in a way that made him seem like a petulant child rather than a god with poor grasp on human morality.

>I didn't like Ego. His disconnect from humanity was presented in a way that made him seem like a petulant child rather than a god with poor grasp on human morality.
He doesn't act like a child, he acts like an asshole. Most assholes are adults.