Why does fatphobia run so rampant in comics and cartoons?

Why does fatphobia run so rampant in comics and cartoons?
There's little to no positive representation.

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Because there is nothing positive about a lack of self control.

because fat people look like shit

There are positive fat characters all over the place in cartoons because they're fun to animate. Comics, it's an aesthetic thing.

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Eat less, fatty.

Butterball doesn't count?

>There are positive fat characters all over the place in cartoons because they're fun to animate.
No there aren't.
>inb4 SU and Voltron
Those are terrible representation.

Feels like you just want to make a thread to bitch about Faith, OP. We've done this a lot of times, I have no genuine feelings to express anymore.

>if you're talking about bad representation, you must be trolling
Fuck off.

Fat is unhealthy and unnatractive

Butterballs power is to remain a loser forever.

And wasn't it implied his "NEVER CHANGE EVER" power prevents him from getting a boner too?

Butterball is suffering.

Being overweight literally has no benefits.
It's unhealthy, and we shouldn't allow people to think it's something that they should be proud of.
Fat acceptance literally kills people.

Agreed, and I get it, I really do, be positive about your self Image and all, I support that. What I do not support is the mentality that being unhealthy is who some one is and who they are supposed to be. Fuck that, if you don't think about or love your self, at least think about the people around you that love you.

I know this is hard to except for fatties, because they already have such a negative outlook about them selves that they excepted their fate as fucking land whales, but (and its a big one) yes there are People who love you and would hate to see you go because of a heart attack or diabetes or (insert a fat illness here) condition.

Fat is unhealthy.
ill storytime bits of best fat representation Ive seen in comics

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Didn't Faith literally die of a heart attack in an issue that peeked into the future?

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Irony? Leland died of a heart attack because he was too fat.

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and thats the best representation of fatness ive seen in a comic, I am storytiming his death. he died a hero in spite of being a member of the Hellfire Club, defeating Nimrod, but of a heart attack for being fat

Neither does my nigga Herbie apparently

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>There's little to no positive representation.
What's positive about being fat?

Considering how much Faith moves around she wouldn't actually be fat desu.

I don't mind fat characters, if it makes sense that they're fat. Some dude who sits at home all day building and controlling robots remotely to fight crime, that makes sense for a fat character. People need to stop pretending like being fat is just RNG, and accept it as a result of the individual's behaviors.

If you're going to have a character who's fat, you don't necessarily need to have a good reason for it, but you can't put a fat character in a position where it physically doesn't make sense and expect not to be criticized for it.

>Why does fatphobia run so rampant in comics and cartoons?

Because it is unhealthy and ugly.

Then again modern cape comics have a superhero whose power is having super advanced cancer, so having a fat hero is a logical extrapolation.

I wonder when Marvel or DC will introduce a character whose power is carrying the bubonic plague.

and here Harry Leland dies

Fat people battle infections better than skinny people, actually.

why did they make her costume a moo-moo?

Doesn't she move around using non-physical superpowers and still eat alot?

There's actual athletes who are still fat over all their muscle, and while they might not do a ton of sprinting they do put in more work than her physically.

Part of the issue is also that if some one says "Fat" it isn't indicative of HOW Fat they are talking about, for example i don't mind a bit of chub if the chubster wearing it isn't a asshole, but if i actually say that people will assume im chasing morbidly obese landwhales, and reality is that if you actually keep in shape loads of fatties WILL be assholes to you and act generally unsupportive and sometimes even actively try to sabotage you.

You can see how it is abused with how "A bit of fat heightens life-expectancy" articles are taken out of context and are STILL used wrongly as excuse by whales to justify their poor feeding habits.

>Jun Akiyama posting on Sup Forums
>and it's current All Japan Akiyama
Sup /wooo/.

>No there aren't

Does Coop have to smack a bitch

>Doesn't she move around using non-physical superpowers and still eat alot?

Dude walking up and down the street once a day is enough to keep you healthyish so long as you don't gorge yourself on pizza every day

make tons of money as a supermodel.
chooses to use power to be a fatty and fight crime.

Coop is regularly portrayed as out of shape and generally dim.

You can still be a tubby bitch if you eat too much shit, just means you won't be a beached landwhale

>fatphobia
If you can walk briskly for more than 3 minutes, there is no phobia of fat people.

What was the last hollywood movie you watched that had an obese person in it?

Visual media likes incredibly handsome men and women, it seeks to avoid the ugly. Obesity is ugly.

Why would you want to portray something negative as if it was something positive?
Fat people don't need fat rolemodels to reinforce their fatness, they need help to stop being fat.

Does Infectious Lass count for DC.

Because "positive representation for fat people" always means "look at this strong, plus sized woman!"
No one is clamoring to tell guys their beer gut or man boobs are attractive, it's clearly just something fat chicks do to make themselves feel better about being unfuckable.

If you get stranded on a desert island you'll outlive everyone else, that's really the only benefit.
On the other hand, if you get stranded on a dessert island it'll likely cause an obesity problem.

The new guy in Dial H was fat and it made sense. It was also kind of a plot point that he didn't want to be fat anymore once he started trying to get his life together.

Yes, and moreso.

In all fairness, Infectious Lass is played up for jokes, and is herself a smoking hot female. Who can make you barf if you get anywhere near her.

But negative things are presented positively all the time.
>Arrogance
>Selfishness
>Degeneracy
>Violence
>Substance abuse
But woah, fat people, that's just going over the line.

You make this very same thread every now and then.

But user, Fatness implies all of those things combined at once, no shit it is harder to portray as positive as any ONE of those negative things by themselves.

Nobody wants to read about some fatty. Realistically heroes won't be fatasses for long if they are out fighting and shit.

Damn, now you've reminded me how much I miss Dial H.

I wonder if Gerard Way could be convinced to add a new Dial H into the Young Animal line?

nah you'll just get canniblized first

I recently lost over 100lbs in about a year and am now at a healthy 150. A woman I work with eventually asked me how i did it and I told her the truth, I started eating less.
She started flipping the fuck out and yelling at me, went and told my boss I was being fat phobic. I wish I was fucking joking. My boss had to send both of us to HR. Sent hambeast to anger management and made me take sensitivity classes.

The irony is, this comic would make Julian lose his faith.

What's woooo

But user, Fat tastes TERRIBLE and the correlating hygiene problems means eating a fatty is a quick way to get sick,The fatty will still likely still get killed early to get rid of a liability FAST though, but the actual eating is almost guaranteed to be of terrible quality, and that is on top of the idea that human meat is terrible to begin with supposedly.

Fat people are out of shape jim, what are you gonna do about it

>Fat tastes terrible
What the fuck kind of bizarro planet do you live on where fat tastes terrible?

I see the concept of a fat hero like Faith as no different than a super-strong hero who gets no combat training.

Like, yeah, he might have enough sheer strength to have an edge over normal people. But he's still weaker than if he actually knew how to fight. It's not as though he's foregoing the training because it wouldn't do anything: he's foregoing it because he just doesn't care about being stronger. He doesn't care enough about doing good.

Faith isn't like Bertha, where her powers revolve around manipulating her mass. She is weaker than she would be if she were in better shape. Sure, she has powers that make her useful DESPITE her weight, but that's not an excuse for being apathetic about it. She's the very antithesis of a superhero, content that she's doing enough to help the world and showing no desire to do more if it means doing things personally inconvenient to her.

Really, you think fat in that excessive quantity will taste good? I guess it is a "Steamed Carrots are my comfort food" thing then.

Fat people don't deserve positive representation.

They lack the self control to stop gorging themselves on high-calorie foods and lack the effort to get up an jog a bit so their hearts don't clog up.

Not to mention the numerous forms of escapism they resort to when you so much as point them towards a salad:
>big is beautiful!
>it's because I was abused as a kid!
>it's a glandular problem! My genetics are at fault!
>WOW. I literally cannot believe you fat shamed me

They're obnoxious, unhealthy, stupid, and above all; scum. You and the other morons defending their awful behavior aren't doing them any favors. You're giving them the greenlight to gorge themselves to death over hurt fee-fees, and if it were my choice I'd have everyone like you be put down for being terrible human beings.

New 52 Dial H was fucking great.

There has never been a bad Dial H comic. Even the silver age stuff was fun.

There was that bronze era stuff where their dog starting eating people.

Really?

Fat or thin, that hair style is a war crime

Faith is like a social marxist version of that one christian manga.

Also fat people don't want to be fat. They want to eat whatever they want and be beautiful. That kind of superpower would sell comics.

I coulda swore I saw that somewhere but I can't find anything to support it now. The little talked about 2003 reboot was "dark and gritty" though.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.E.R.O._(comics)
Apparently the fight a serial killer and some of them get dead.

>Hunk is terrible representation

Super smart, brave, stalwart, loyal, compassionate space knight is terrible representation now?

>Coop is regularly portrayed as out of shape

Yeah, because he's fat.

Being fat is bad. It's a flaw. Fat people can have great character traits, but being fat is not one of them. Being fat should never be presented as a virtue because it's not one.

She doesn't have to do anything, having superpowers doesn't obligate you to help other people and the fact she's using them to save the day is a bonus. you're just being bitchy.

Obesity becomes chronical past a certain theshold unless you start cutting of the depleted fat cell deposits - which is outright dangerous

Representation means that you produce comics for the purpose of joining the club and selling, without actually having anything to say. Just feeling included.
Then what? Batman wasn't created to cater to the rich, nor Superman to aliens or big hunks of meat or journalists. They were created as heroes.

If you expect representation of any kind of sexual/social/racial/religious group you are a huge retard and should stay away from comics, because you don't want a comic about a good story: you want to masturbate about you being part of a group that matters.
And no group matters. We're all faggots on this world so better suck it up.

Because when you exercise constantly like a superhero, you're not gonna be fat.

That was pretty badass. I never knew that's how evil superpowered Orson Welles died.

belly bump

It could have been the strain of his powers. I mean being fat didn't help but that was nimrod and some mutations kill you you for using it too much.

Leland had a very very cool superpower, and I have never seen another character with that same power, changing the mass of things, which can be used in very creative ways (throw a golf ball, make it very heavy mid air causing a lot of damage when it falls, or the opposite, make something very light and unable of hurting you, or even be able to jump like in the moon or be carried by the wind by becoming very light).

It would be cool if it is revealed he had a son or daughter, who would turn 13 or 14 now, with the same power, and he/she joins the xmen school. It would be a kid from a wealthy family too.