Conservatives

How do we stop Trump and Trumpism?

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You don't.

I think you should go to your nearest walmart.Go to their men's restroom (assuming your gender). Look promptly at the Urinal. See that round mint floating there in what looks like residue piss? Go ahead and grab that and place it directly under your tongue. Its the latest progressive trend and everyone is doing it! The real high doesn't kick in until you go look in the mirror. Go ahead take a nice long look. After you have fulfilled your homosexual desires fucking bash your god damn head into the sink repeatedly until the mint under your tongue begins to taste like a black-cock foreskin.

By voting for another war-hungry neocon to take the White House. Aren't you With Her™?

By shooting Hillary Clinton in the head

>posting that Jew from Generation War
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You can't.

You guys fucked over Pat Buchanan, and now it's coming back to bite you in the ass. Maybe if the movement hadn't devolved into Constitution worship, and prayers to Saint Reagan, we wouldn't be in this mess.

You could vote for Hillary Clinton, and pray that she wins; however, the only thing that comes of a Clinton Presidency is the death of Rightwing politics in general. You will never win the Hispanic vote, and "muh true conservatism(TM)" will be relegated to a regional party, and minor nuisance to Democratic ambitions.

Enjoy, because you've been digging this grave for a while now.

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No. I am not for socialism. I want a party that represents conservative principles like small government and low taxes.

>implying it isn't because millions of Mexicans

You've got to be a real gay fuck to make that up

American conservatism died a long time ago.

Your choices now are between isolationist statism and neocon statism.

Oh snap

That's my point, though.

Hillary's in favor of, at best, Pathway to Citizenship, at worst, amnesty. That'll kill the GOP.

Even when the Republican Party panders (Reagan amnesty & following Hispanic outreach) they can't win the Hispanic vote.

Such sweeping demographic changes will turn Texas and Arizona into battleground states, and the traditional GOP platform won't flip the rustbelt in turn. The GOP will not survive at the national level.

Hillary is center right. She's a war monger who wants to sell out the working class to multinationals who want to ship our manufacturing base to SE Asia so that they can pay 3¢ more in dividends to shareholders.

>Its the latest progressive trend and everyone is doing it!
Either STEP UP OR BACK THE FUCK OFF RACIST SHITLORD. its about fucking time modern society learn to use alternative medicine like urinal mints to get the best high

Essentially, Hillary is George Bush with saggy tits. The only difference is that Hillary plays the part of a policy wonk and George played the part of the fool. That's it. In a matter of a decade the parties have switched and nobody has figured it out yet. Media Matters and its ilk are unironically pushing for Bush to get back into the White House.

>Britain is so far left they think someone who supports government controlled medicine is "center right"

Is this supposed to be funny? R/the Donald give you upvotes for this

I'm from North Carolina, retard.

She describes herself as center right and privately mocks the very socialist "Scandinavian" policies that her supporters beg for.

Yes yes, we know Hillary is a crypto globalist crypto neocon running as an "experienced leader" and a "social liberal"

mods do your goddamn job

fpbp

and those dubs as well

Wait until the 8th when they're BTFO forever.

Trump is going to lower taxes
There's no real conservative politician this election
There's a centrist regarding social issues and there's a radical progressive regarding social issues. Pick one.

Mate, where's your flag? Are you avin a laff or are you really not from a country?

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>this bloke doesn't realize that Trump is already winning Florida

You cry a lot, you sabotage his chances, and then I'm sure they'll all come back and you'll be able to win an election ever.

You won't become the Whigs or anything

>CTR

pic very fucking related.

Aw, isn't that sad? The cuckservatives are siding with the democrats.

There's no more place for you faggots, just embrace your place among the Dems. It's all you can do now.

Shit-tier image, tbqh.

But yes, if Trump loses, Trumpism (moderate Paleoconservatism) dies for good.

The caveat to that, is that all Rightwing politics die for good. It'll be irreversible at that point.

It's true that Trump wants lower taxes, but unfortunately he is against free trade. Since when did Republicans become the populist party of protectionism?

AU REVOIR, SHOSHANNA

give up. democrats crated this with your betrayal of the native working class and smug contempt for their interests. even people who hate trump are voting for him as a fuck you to more powerful people who fear him.

I don't know about this one, he probably wants to lure more bernouts

Good. Capitalism is cancer and I welcome liberal socialism.

Oy vey don't protect yourself goy

By promoting college education

>cuckservatives, how do we suck israel's dick more?

Since Lincoln.

I like buying cheap imported goods. I like being able to offer products and services to an international marketplace.

It's not my problem if some chump can't compete with the chinamen in the global market place.

>I like destroying America

You don't, it stops YOU

pic related, you can't

The people you support are cucks, and therefore you are cucks for supporting them. They have given you nothing for years and yet you sheep blindly support them. You don't demand new representation, you just blindly follow along. Donald Trump represents a revolution in the party and you sneer and betray your own party in response, tacitly embracing the establishment instead, and not just any establishment, the other party! Sincerely, get fucked. We don't want your kind anymore, you can either go create your own party (please call it the cuckservative party), or join the democrats. But nope, you're not welcome with us anymore. Go fuck yourselves, take Paul Ryan with you on your way out.

you don't stop it, you surrender yourself to it and let it penetrate deep inside you, and the when its finished using you as a toilet for its bodily fluids and is all sleepy and done you try to change it to what you want.

same drill as with your boyfriend

>Liberal Socialism
>Hillary Clinton.

Oh, and before you start with the nonsense about how a hamstrung Republican party would effectively allow the Democrats to move further to the left, there's one big takeaway from the Democratic Primary.

Your new "Americans" are intensely brand loyal, and aren't hardline Leftist partisans. Good luck actually enjoying the fruits of Socialism, because the backbone of the Democrats tends to fawn over Corporatist Neoliberals who dress their platforms up nicely.

Way to oversimplify trade there cuck.

I don't actually care about any of this because none of it will effect my life in the slightest. I just like to see Sup Forumscucks get furious.

Real talk? If I ever find one of the trolls who's been making Sup Forums such shit for the last year I will kill you.

I will kill you violently.

>Hur dur somethin-

No. You don't seem to understand what it means to be a traitor, you will die more painfully than you ever imagined if you're found.

Wow a retard

>How do we stop Trump and Trumpism?
>accompanied with a picture of a feminist plugging her ears and ignoring reality
How appropriate

You only think it won't bub. And if you sincerely think that, you really haven't been paying enough attention.

But that's OK, you'll find out if Clinton does manage to steal the election.

I'm a disabled NEET taking advantage of every welfare program there is. Regardless of who wins I will continue watching anime and playing videogames without concern for anything else.

>But yes, if Trump loses, Trumpism (moderate Paleoconservatism) dies for good.

That might have been the case if it wasn't clear the GOP are sabotaging him.

The Republicans will die and a new party will form, and there's a good chance that moderate Paleoconservatism as you put it will be reborn.

I'm a lifelong Conservative and tea party member.

You don't stop Trump, you join him.

We sent hordes of conservatives to Washington to stop Obama, and they wrote him a blank check.

They are talking about amnesty and are too stupid to learn from Reagan's amnesty mistake which turned California blue for eternity.

Conservatism is gone, replaced by Nationalists and that will never change now.

They think they'll never face punishment for their subversion, they don't seen to understand history.

There will be a point where all things meet, and at that point the shills will find horrors they never imagined.

I've studied and obsessed over history for my entire life, now I see the writing on the wall, and it says terror is coming for the saboteurs of civilization, on a scale not yet seen by humanity.

HEY FAG SEE GET WITH THE TIMES RACIST. alternative medicine is urinal mints and if you arent tolerant enough to accept that then you have no place in society

>mfw...

Oh, I have no doubt that the actual Republican Party dies if Hillary wins, I just don't think a proper, paleoconservative/nationalist party will be competitive at the national level should demographics change.

The Republican party, assuming it doesn't die, won't be able to win national elections with Texas and Arizona being competitive.

There's no way the current Republican coalition (Neocons/Religious Right/Constitutionalists/Moderate Libertarians) can take the Rustbelt, which is what they'd need to even stand a chance.

A Paleocon, protectionist party MIGHT be able to do that, but it's a longshot (Would probably require pandering to blacks, and we've seen how well that's gone over). Plus, as our Hispanic population grows, and eventually overtakes the white majority, any form of Rightwing politics is doomed to wither and die.

Clinton would drive the country to the right, just like her husband did.

Trump would drive the country to the left.
>closed borders
>restricted trade
>can't criticize people

Sounds like East Germany. Next thing you know he'll propose a single payer system because "people need it".

>Open borders
>positive

Oh and on the topic of criticism, what's more damning? Proper libel laws that serve to hold our press accountable, or cracking down on non-centralized media (Obama, Hillary, Feinstein et al.)

>Just saying shit

What the fuck kinda country do you think the US is?

Sorry I'm paying attention. He gives people what they want.

>implying i would get the same stimulation i get from intolerant fuckfaces like yourself anywhere else but Sup Forums
Medicinal use of urinal mints is the new thing you fucking tard. Soon there will be scientific proof so stepts towards regulation and legalization can be enacted STOP BEING ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY

I would hope it's fairly obvious that I think America's a country in need of better libel laws and a closed door.

The press shouldn't be able to ruin the reputations of people over hyperbolic, heavily spun falsehoods. That's not freedom of speech, that's not proper criticism. If something is demonstrably false, and intended to ruin someone's reputation (Which is what we're seeing with such hyperpartisan centralized media outlets), then yes there should be consequences.

Just like women should face consequences for false rape allegations.

He gives people what they've been craving, stop trying to reword it.

Don't say sorry either, if you're trying to make a point and you need to apologize for it you never had a fucking point in the first place.

easy. convince hillary supporters to vote for stein. the only reason trump is successful is because you rallied behind hillary clinton.

You could've had any other candidate run against trump and win but you chose hillary.

One of the most criminal politicians to ever exist.

Literally the only reason trump is pulling in so many people is because the other successful candidate is clinton.

Even though Trump's platform is practically ideal for me this is actually the case.

The OP was trying to frame the discussion to center on "Conservatives" retaking the GOP, though.

People want the no pre-existing condition clause to stay. Fiscally the only way this can go is socialism. And they'll get it.

That's a value judgement that's never been upheld by any supreme court decision.

People want to survive, and that's not a reality under Clinton.

The globalist whore is looking to start a war to make her masters rich, exactly like what happened in WWI and WWII, Trump is the only vote that avoids that.

You're right, it hasn't, yet. I'd rather try the tactics of the left, they've been extremely successful in getting SCOTUS to rule in their favor for all sorts of nonsensical things.

And I'm still waiting on the explanation for how closed borders are a bad thing.

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i think you took a wrong turn back on reddit or something...
follow the corridor to the end, take the first door on the right, and go fuck yourself.
thank you.

>omething has gone terribly wrong with the Republican party, and it has nothing to do with the flaws of Donald Trump. Something like his tone and message would have to be invented if he did not exist. None of the other 16 primary candidates — the great majority of whom had far greater political expertise, more even temperaments, and more knowledge of issues than did Trump — shared Trump’s sense of outrage over what was wrong: The lives and concerns of the Republican establishment in the media and government no longer resembled those of half their supporters.

>The irony is now upon us that he may have been the most conservative Republican candidate who still could beat Hillary Clinton — and that if he were to win, he might usher in the most conservative Congress, presidency, and Supreme Court in nearly a century.

nationalreview.com/magazine/2016-10-24-0100/donald-trump-conservative-2016

(btw if you don't have a subscription to NR you probably aren't a conservative)

Trump *is* in fact the true conservatives' choice, user.

It's a piece of the puzzle. Big governments always close their borders.

>People want to survive, and that's not a reality under Clinton.
She's taking money from every government she meets. Who would she war with? Russia? Why? There's no way to smooth over an invasion of Crimea.

Likely she'll throw missiles around to blow up a medicine factory when she's into some bad press.

And governments that get swarmed with the third world tend to grow and suffer all sorts of problems.

Oh, christ. That magazine's dead, then.

Well stop giving them money to come here. It's not cheap for them to do so.

War isn't a joke, it feels like it is, but it's not.

When you sit on the prepopous of invasion you'll remember this day, the day I told you that Clinton was a vote for war.

> Some chump can't compete

> AKA a local store can't simply open a factory in Buttfuckistan and pay the workers there 5 cents an hour

They'll come regardless, that's the problem.

To be fair, half of the contributors are still vehemently anti-Trump.

Anyway, vote Trump this election to keep Clinton out of the White House, and in 2020/2024 Paul Ryan will run and you'll get your "free market, small govt., low taxes" corporate conservatism you want.

What you meant to say was

"Neocons, how do we stop the Paleocons?"

and the answer is. You dont

Were going back to the roots baby

THIS is True Conservatism

She backed away from Iraq after it was clear that it was going to actually happen. She wanted out of Libya after it became clear that it wasn't Spring fresh over there anymore.

Not saying she's in favor of rational stability. She just doesn't have any principals, which means she has no reason to come up with a theory of foreign policy. All of her decisions relate to her own likeability.

Clinton is a fucking a tool.

I have nothing else to say on this, becuase saying more muddies the issue beyond it's limits.

Clinton is the whore of babylon.

Clinton is the whore of war.

Clinton is death.

Hillary has barely paused to stop laughing ever since Trump announced. She wakes up and starts laughing. She's laughing as she brushes her teeth. She gets in front of the camera and can barely contain it behind her eyes. When she lays down to bed she falls asleep laughing.

Trump is disliked by old people (any of those who've seen him as a TV personality). That's why he'll lose Florida, and you need Florida to win any election. And nobody ever saw fit to tell him this.

The need to win Florida is the only type of fact that Hillary knows. And she can't stop laughing.

If Clinton learned anything from Iraq, she wouldn't have done Libya.

If she learned anything from Libya, she wouldn't want to do Syria.

you cant

this is the natural result of cuckservatism

same thing is happening in the uk to the political left

I'm sure she wants to get on the war bandwagon, because that shit is popular. But she'll never pursue a war to its end. Whoever wants to enter the power vacuum is fine with her.

Spend my money responsibly

"Why am I not ahead by 50 points!?"

Yes, the Dems. wanted Trump because they initially believed he would be an easy opponent but, just like Hanson said in the article I posted, the truth was he was the best conservative to win.

I think Hillary is pretty likely to win at this point, but Trump is going to win FL. All the time when the media talks about Trump rallies they mention how 'white, old, and grey' it is.

You can't. Accept the fact the citizens will take America back from the cuckery and scum of the earth known as liberal progressivism.

>youtube.com/watch?v=6tGk5nNDOHY

>youtube.com/watch?v=2hBjcKPEtEs&feature=youtu.be

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Dems are the party of protecting social security. Trump is a wild card, and they hate that.

They're terrified they might actually have to answer to the people.

Politics has been subverted for years and even the dumbest nigger in American can see how bad it is now.

Things will reach a head, and the saboteurs of our country will pay in ways they never thought possible.

He's promised to protect entitlements from day 1. You can argue the Dems. and their media did a good job of obscuring that message with ridiculous, forced non-scandels, but that's another point entirely.