Is there honor in dying for one's country, nation, and homeland?

is there honor in dying for one's country, nation, and homeland?
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Depends on the circumstances. Dying for Canada in its present state? Probably nah.

Maybe if you could die in a way that would lead to Making Canada Great again, it could be honorable.

Go out and kick off a good happening, leaf.

Some nations are Jew controlled.

You're fighting for Jewish bankers.

Maybe there was honor a long time ago, but not anymore.

Better than dying of old age for the jew, alone, sad, having achieved nothing worthwhile in your life.

I'm leaving in a bang for my family, race and nation or nothing.

Would rather die standing on my own two feet in either battle or defending something that is precious to me. I believe in a glorious death. Valhalla awaits friend, if you go before me keep a chair next to you empty for when I arrive.

Here is a question if you want to know if there is honor in dying. Yes, if you struggle till the end.

>getting shot in the back by your own archers

They ought to be hanged

not in the modern day. no country is worth dying for. every country is corrupt

Only if you can tell the difference between your country and its government.

No, only dying for one's people is honorable.
If that happens to coincide with one's nation then fine.

Old marvel comics was great.


Fuck their current SJW agenda. Im a DC boy now

There is honor in laying down your life for the people you love.

>is there honor in dying for one's country, nation, and homeland?

Yes, but there is much greater honor in slaughtering your nation's enemies.

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>mfw there used to be.

Going to war for your country is the most cucked thing you can do in the modern age. No respect for veterans.

Absolutely not.
All young men should refuse to have a rifle put into their hands by lying, scheming, dishonest politicians who talk of duty whilst hiding themselves away from the front line. We only have one life, don't throw yours away for crooks young man!

Old Cap was a boss.

No.
Generally if you're fighting for your family/community it involves the larger society (nation) hence the relation.

what the fuck is honor even? shit is so deluded and seems to have no meaning anymore.

too bad that if you refuse you get sentenced to jail

You asked it wrong user.

You don't die for "nation" or "homeland", these are bunch of people You don't know, and some dirt. You die for what Your forefathers build, You die for Your family, for Your values, You die because something greater, something that will immortalize Your sacrifice, for future generations.

Is it worth? Yeah, it is, if You believe in what Your ancestors did, if You believe that those who will come after You will not waste this sacrifice, Yes it is worth it.

There is an very old song, from 10th century in Poland, and it goes like this:

"Our grandfathers washed their swords in the ocean's
And we faults of our fathers wash in our wounds"

There is honor in dying for what You believe in.

It's for people who never read Don Quixote

If the cause is right, there is no better honor than dying for your land and people.

Only if you love your country.

only if it aligns with your morals. The only thing worth dying for is your moral code.

>dying for one's country, nation, and homeland (warfare of yesteryear)
Glorious.
>dying for corporate interests of the political elite (aka modern military conflicts)
Disgraceful.

Can someone shop Trump into this?

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Is it worth? Yeah, it is, if You believe in what Your ancestors did, if You believe that those who will come after You will not waste this sacrifice, Yes it is worth it.

take history with a grain of salt, let go of nationalism and see shit for what it is. You don't fight for what your ancenstors fought for, you fight for what you're told to fight for, the only other time is when you fight for survival.

i actually haven't read it myself, is it a good read?
i'm mostly just free reading philosophy atm.

Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori

Unless your country needs a bleeding.

>dying for one's country, nation, and homeland (warfare of yesteryear)
What yesteryear was that?

>is there honor in dying for one's country, nation, and homeland?

There is only honor in killing your enemies, you weak faggot.

you can always just be a coward and let others fight for you
the dead can't bask in honour
the living can wallow in shame

Only if the kikes aren't pulling your strings

nice video op is that you playing the faggot?

So cut yourself and make it obvious during training. You'll be disqualified.

>There is only honor in killing your enemies, you weak faggot

MURICA!

It is.
It's about a man so is so obsessed with books on knight errant's that he thinks he is one and while he has good intentions and actually saves some lives one of the points is that honor never existed outside of story's

so it's based around mental illusions, if you think you're rightheous you're rightheous, and stuff. sounds interesting.

the best way to get an answer about honor would be to ask the dead about honor.

I'll not be talked shit to by some effeminate European cuckstate, go bend over for that somali dick faggot.

Yes.

If your question is honor in fighting for the guy next to you? Yes.

But you're currently fighting for Israel. Your death is ultimately ignominious.

not if your country is replaced by somalia and morocco and mexico

Dying for your countries native corporate interests no.
Dying to actually protect your land and people yes.

good ol' muricans, you always have something intelligent to say

Not anymore there isn't, not going to lay down my life for this fagfest of a "country"

There was a long time ago, but not today. In this day, and age, dying for one's country, nation, and homeland, is dying for nothing, but vanity.
The only exception to this, is fighting against one's government; to end their tyrannical reign. Yet alas, your death will only have meaning, if your death, brings an end to their rule.

Giving the criminal a dark skin would have been too much to ask. Funny how in these comics the bad/stupid character is always a white male.

Yes.

Fürs vaterland.

A white gunner....
What a libtard drawer.

Some one fix it and paint him black.

if you die
>fighting invaders in your homeland
>overthrowing a corrupt government
>removing marxist/communist rebel scum
you died for a good cause

if you die
>serving a corrupt government in a pointless proxy war
>propagating a cause that would doom your country and its people
>serving a foreign nation's interests
you died a cuck

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs,
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots,
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of gas-shells dropping softly behind.

Gas! GAS! Quick, boys!—An ecstasy of fumbling
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time,
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And flound’ring like a man in fire or lime.—
Dim through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.

In all my dreams before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil’s sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,—
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.

>dying for a spook

If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil’s sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,—
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.

Notes:
Latin phrase is from the Roman poet Horace: “It is sweet and fitting to die for one’s country.”

Copy cat.

Bro
Guess I should have refreshed the thread.