I love how you empathize with D in the beginning of the movie, but you slowly start to realize he's batshit insane and the "bad guy".
I also like that the movie shows so much of LA in a bad light, not just one race or demographic. The city is pretty fucking wild and it captures that feeling of just a fuck ton of weird people wandering around, makes me want to drive around and just take it all in.
Jason Cox
The movie summed up how LA would descend into 3rd world status once it became majority non white.
It's actually redpilled on how "diversity" destroys civic cohesion and creates poverty and misery.
Isaiah Kelly
It's definitely a great LA movie. You should also watch Collateral, which is another films that that explores the physical landscape and demography of LA.
Jonathan Allen
it is a rare great lefty movie. Also as OP stated a great LA movie.
Liam Russell
Buhbuhbuhback to pol
Blake Anderson
Interesting premise completely ruined by the one-dimensional filmmaking typical of Shoefucker. Not surprised brainlet Sup Forumstards who recently infested this board praise it.
Grayson Stewart
it's all just mexicans now outside of the rich areas. mass immigration has killed diversity in california. also D is nowhere near batshit crazy, he's just got PTSD.
Jose Gonzalez
Do you have an argument?
William Lee
anyone who insults Sup Forums is either a goblin mutt, nigger or self hating white soy
Brandon Howard
i wish this movie was better than it is. such an interesting idea can't remake it though cause no one will ever play the part like douglas
Eli Williams
had a hard time agreeing with him in the china man shop with the coke and the mcdonalds breakfast, but the rest was fine.
Carter Reed
nice cult logic
Brody Bell
yeah youre mean and dumb lol go away we up in this bitch now it's not yours any more
Sebastian Powell
>I believe in racial diversity despite zero evidence >attack anyone who goes against it
Seems like you're projecting lad.
Chase Sanders
he did nothing wrong though
Jacob Jackson
Or maybe they hate the fact that it has become the biggest reddit colony on this site ever since the election
Luis Wood
The one big mistake I think the movie makes is that is makes clear his marriage failed because of anger issues. The whole time you're watching, you're trying to figure out whether to root for this guy or hope he finally is stopped, and when you find out he's hurt people before with what must be routine instability you lose all interest for his mission. When he asks, "I'm the bad guy?" in disbelief that should be the audience asking too, but it isn't.
John Barnes
NOT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE >NOT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE NOT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE >NOT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE NOT ECONOMICALLY VIABLE
Joseph Martinez
>I love how you empathize with D in the beginning of the movie, but you slowly start to realize he's batshit insane and the "bad guy". That was the exact intent of the jews that made it, user. Good goy.
Cooper Foster
Amen. I remember feeling let down during that reveal. The ambiguity is what made it fun to ride along with Michael Douglas.
Juan Ward
>when you find out he's hurt people That's not very clear though His wife says he never hurt her, just that she was scared.
Henry Rivera
>Collateral OP here and yeah after reading reviews and just from the movie itself, the guy was definitely lefty and wanted to make a movie about how the old status quo needs to adapt, but he didn't make it so he had to adapt to some great diverse feminist utopia. He showed how LA is diverse but still fucking crazy and fucked up.
My dad's name was Bill and my mom left him when I was incredibly young. He didn't go nuts but he died of cancer so that aspect of the movie really hits.
Isaac Powell
Crazy how socal is basically fragmented into small racial sections. You got whites in beach cities, blacks in Compton Mexicans in South LA, Asians in OC,
Zachary Baker
My problem with it is that at first the movie tries to portray Michael Douglas as someone who is lashing out very violently at normal people, when it seems like it's society at large which has screwed him over. In the beginning of the movie it isn't an actual human being who sets him off the edge, it's all the hustle and bustle that just comes with living in the world he lives in. Douglas is a total blank slate - he could be someone you know in real life, even yourself, who's unsatisfied with the way the country has turned. But when the movie says, "Oh, he always was aggressive" you lose that tether and he just becomes another nut with a gun.
Now on the other hand you can say that his wife was scared because she sensed that Douglas was a ticking time bomb, like anyone who finds a reason to hate 'the man' might be, but that still is at the cost of a viewer seeing himself in Douglas's shoes. "Oh, he wasn't a normal guy like me, he was always angry and now he's angrier than usual."
Liam Brooks
Nah man, he's definitely crazy. Did you watch the movie? He was waving a gun around in his daughter's face, he was completely disconnected from reality.
And yeah mass immigration has destroyed LA. Anyone that thinks otherwise and lives out here is fucking retarded.
Ryder Miller
So butthurt over a loan. Go somewhere else man god damn
Jaxon Garcia
The good guy is an old white dude though.
Logan Morris
not everyone is a 90's born queer still living at home waiting for mom to cook dinner.
Dominic Garcia
I mean he scares the shit out of innocent people with a gun and makes them scared for their lives. If you don't think he had issues at that point.. yeah idk. I agree it was fun not knowing, but I think the pacing was fine. You don't realize he's actually crazy until pretty far in
Joseph Ramirez
d-fens and prendegast were both shit on by life they just took it in different ways.
Jonathan Miller
You're right the only option is to stand outside of the loan place with a sign like a psycho.
Yes I'm clearly the weird outcast, ok.
Aaron Anderson
>t. economically viable
Josiah Murphy
>at normal people He was lashing out against normal cunts
Parker Adams
yeah fuck that little kid and old lady eating their hamburgers what pieces of shit.
Don't be a retard
Daniel Lee
Why do you think the reviews were somewhat negative at the time? It's like the all begrudgingly admit it's a well made movie but find it's (accurate) portrayal of LA's diversity objectionable. I guess stick in a neo nazi character that even the disgruntled protagonist objects to allowed them to offset that somewhat.
Evan Torres
you think that was the only place he went to? you're like a baby bird who hasn't left the nest yet. it's easy to be a smug little cunt when someone else is feeding you and paying for your existence.
Jason Mitchell
know a lot about bird law, faggot?
Anthony Gray
Twice now you've brought up that I live at home, and I don't, so, what the fuck is wrong with you man? Did you like just move out? It's ok to feel incompetent and mis home, just chill out.
You're acting like an actual crazy person.
Gabriel Bell
chirp chirp chirp
Angel Murphy
>implying he was lashing out against them
Ryan Butler
WHAT TEH FUCK DID YOU SEAY YO UFUCKING PIECE OF SHIT FAGGOT FUCK YOU IM NOT A BIRB
Colton Jenkins
yes, but he scared them and made them fear for their lives. It shows taht he is completely disconnected. The people he was lashing out against were 10000% unaffected by this shit, he scared innocent people.
Please understand man, yes he was fucked over, but come on.
Henry Bennett
>The people he was lashing out against were 10000% unaffected by this shit The dead spics and the nazi would disagree
Jeremiah Ross
we are talking about a specific scene, try to pay attention dipshit
Brandon Rodriguez
>picking just one scene to decide what a character is like
Lucas Peterson
Oh and when he tries to kidnap that little girl and her dad
Jaxson Nguyen
>put good ideas into the mouths of bad guys: the movie Classic Hollywood jewry.
Tyler Lopez
Here's a clue faggot, if you have to claim you're red pilled you are just regurgitating garbage.
Liam Thomas
>Whites AREN'T being demographically dispossessed in their own countries! If you believe otherwise you're just falling for propaganda! lol