This was alright but it didn't stress the absurd nature of communism enough

This was alright but it didn't stress the absurd nature of communism enough

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There's nothing absurd about communism unto itself, the absurdity of the CCCP was in the attempt to make a totalitarian regime out of a societal model in which all are equal.

why would you think (((they))) would deal with their ideology harshly?

This board is for people who actually watch movies.

>There's nothing absurd about communism
Expect for the whole part that it is based on make belief.
There's a reason why Marx wanted a "revolution", because you need like minded people to make it work aka "not in the real world kiddo."

It only showed the terror. It served no purpose to show the queues for food or other civilian problems.

I banish thee to Sup Forums, retard.

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>a societal model in which all are equal.
Men are not equal in ability, ambition, physical prowess or fortune. Basing a political ideology on an unreachable goal is the mark of a fool.

Yeah, it was entertaining and watchable, but not as funny and absurd as I was expecting.

this.
still good though.
good and better than the average capeshit.

good movie. I wish 16yo would stop keeping the communism meme alive. its literally only kids who still perpetuate this nonsense

>We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness
Really makes you think

>There's nothing absurd about communism unto itself,
ahahaha have fun at your summer camps

Stalin did literally nothing wrong.
His only mistake was not living long enough to do a second purge to get rid of parasites like Khrushchev.

I like how the closer we get to the technological level necessary for communism, the harder our corporate masters push against it.

Coens made fun of communism

Not what I meant at all.

comfy / 10

i thought brainlets were a myth

>movie RIP came out
>want to talk about it
>YOU'RE Sup Forums ABLOO ABLOO

nah, Tukachevsky was a good boy. Stalin was a retard.

Corps' may get on board with universal income if they start running out of consumers with jobs to buy stuff.

we don't need technological marvels, we need planned global economy that can promote industrialization in underdeveloped countries.
even 1910s technology was enough, but we needed a worldwide revolution and sadly they were suppressed everywhere outside of russia

or they move in gated communities away from the poor and just produce things only for themselves
they needed consumers because they needed workers to take care of them and make things for them, once robots do that we'll be dispensable to them

How come Zhukov, Stalin Jr and Molotov made it to the poster over Beria? Beria is basically the second most prominent character other than Khrushchev.

>promote industrialization in underdeveloped countries
Yeah, let's run out of resources faster

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Do yourself a favour and read a book about basic economy. You'll quickly learn why communism is absurd.

T.Economist

Recommend pic related.

that's why they say "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

Are you that kid who thinks communism means everyone gets the same paycheck?

Doesn't communism always end up like in this movie? The "revolutionaries" are a bunch of power hungry assholes that don't give a shit about the people and end up living like kings?

But that's kind of a good point. Marx said things were shit and they had to change, so they must not stay the same. He specifically said that things are shit in a way that it's not just a personal problem, or a simple malfunctioning of a good system, but a system that produces poverty, that is inherently shit. Then he said we must find a way to not be in this shit system and create a new system, which obviously does not exist yet, in which this kind of shit didn't happen. In the name of that system which does not exist but should exist, some good things and bad things were made by people throughout the 20th century, while propaganda and persecution took care of the rest so that each side has a clear vision of what communism is about even without not knowing anything about it. The word now means whatever it takes so that you don't change sides (ie if you like communism, you'll defend it, if you dislike it, you'll attack it, even if both are discussing different things).

history repeats itself, also buscemi playing putin in a movie is a surprisingly good choice

>We believe that are CREATED equal, so we'll use the government just when needed, to let him develop as he wants while pursuing his own happiness
vs
>We believe that all men ARE equal, so we'll hunt down and brainwash/kill anyone who proves this wrong
kys commie

that's why a planned economy is necessary, to do it efficiently

>His only mistake was not making another genocide
This is your head on communism

/leftypol/ is what happens when you get too edgy for Sup Forums

Fuck off commie

>Paddy Considine only has one scene
>gets third top billing
this man has a REALLY good agent

thanks fren

>we have to make people lose their jobs so we can push our meme ideology
This is your brain on communism

>The planned economy that killed millions in all of russian and specially in the Holodomor is was the key to global success
I can't believe how retarded communist are, is like they never opened a book nor hold a job and function entirely fueled by fantasies.

Pottery.

>literal propaganda
>An insightful read
Pick one

>You have to work you ass off because you can, to give the money to the party so the bureucrats can give it, minus a percentage to some random soyboy in the other side of the country
It worked great to the people in the Holomodor. Way to push for genocide, bloodshed, hunger and misery FAGGOT.
The funny part is that people like you think that they'll have some bureucratic work in an office and will not just get killed by the party once they start seeing that the people they were supposed to help are living in a literal hellhole.

holodomor is fascist propaganda and stalin turned russia from a backwater shithole into a superpower in just a few decades

>Being this intellectually dishonest
Nigga, what is you doing? Freedom in the US is based upon complete social and legal equality. Communism took it a step further and purposes economic equality though, to a far greater extent than promised within the US. Don't act like one is a bastion of liberal thought and the other is imagined up by the devil incarnate

> Way to push for genocide, bloodshed, hunger and misery FAGGOT.
you must have confused that user with American foreign policy lol

>the holodomor is fascist propaganda

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that irony when tankies and russians manage to sound like holocaust deniers and colonial-apologist straw man memes they shit on all the time

They are billed in alphabetical order, you brainlet

>Total psychopaths run the world now but we have some liberty so we have to kill everyone who oposses our book to end up having the very same psychopaths not only run the world, but own every single thing in it, even our lives
This is your brain on turbocommunism

>communism is goo...

>Reinstates orthodox church
>Supports nationalism
>Pro-Military
>Criminalizes homosex and other degeneracies
>Kill commies

I like him

The USSR was the greatest communist killing machine in all of history. In this respect it should be celebrated.

>This is your brain on communist propaganda

CCCP was just Russian Empire II: Farmboys back in The Kremlin

>communism is absurd because this system, that capitalists designed for themselves, requires bonds, fiat currency and company "value"

the people need a sense of unity and national identity, especially when fascists want to invade the country

only faggot western liberals think that gun control, pacifism and degenerate behavior are leftist. Of course we support them promoting that in US because whatever makes amerikkka weaker is better

Most Bolshevik leaders were Jews and minorities. Russians took over after 1953.

Yes yes, now for the next part you say: "...and anyway the kulaks deserved it"

>He thinks that you go full into one or the other and is not a scale of gray
Social and legal equality is not the same as the forced equality you get on communism. Learn your rights, the USA is built on the negative rights, and communism is based upon a extreme use of positive rights. One lets you live as you like, as long as you can maintain/afford it, in the other you have to ask permission to live.

>Complains about the policies of one STATE
>Pushes for an ideology were the STATE literally owns the whole country and everyone in it.
This is you brain on communism

Uncle Joe did more to free the world from dirty marxists than any other person, and he almost saved us from the jews before they got him

kulaks deserved it is like helicopter drops for capitalists, it's just a meme
but kulaks did deserve getting away their hoarded food and their luxurious lands expropriated, just like with all capitalists. it all belongs the proletarian

jesus christ its not even summer

>Complains about lack of nuance
>Lacks nuance

>Thinks that free speech, movement and association are something that need to be "designed" by a group of people
ITT Criminally retarded people pushing for a party to come and genocide them.

>They deserving it is a meme
>But they did deserve it
kek

imperialism is just the natural conclusion of capitalism, it has nothing to do with "the state". The constant demand for more profit and growth is what forces the bourgeois to invade and steal resources from other places in the world
you must be some ancap faggot who thinks replacing the government with corporations would be better lmao

>dude communism doens't work because it's easier to convince people worthless shit and imaginary concepts have value lmao

murican edumacashun, literally designed to never push people off the peak of mount stupid.

>holodomor is fascist propaganda
Fuck off tankie

>Showing to literal retarded people the two extremes because they are so dumb they seem to push for something while wanting the opposite
>Complaining about nuance

>thinks replacing the government with corporations would be better

In a purely idealistic sense, it would be better if power struggles were forbidden from manifesting in armed warfare.

this is your brain on amerikkkan capitalist propaganda
you believe the spoils of settling other people's lands, enslaving non-white populations and exploiting workers are a natural right to you. And when the oppressed had finally enough of bourgeois scum and they want their money back, you cry oppression
eat shit pig

why are you giving a sound analysis to a board of illiterate parrots ?!

>imperialism is just the natural conclusion of capitalism
>But also, as marx said, communism is the natural conclusion of capitalism
This is your brain on capitalism.

for the other "point", nice ad hom

to be fair, the bourgeois don't exist anymore. there's only two social classes, rich and poor.

The movie was quite good but I expected something better. Also, the ending was too abrupt.
7/10. Worth watching, yet I can't actually recommend it.

I think you need to reread the conversation, bud

Yeah, the crazy shit stops at one point when they all decide just to remove Beria and carry on

Khrushchev was a fucking saint only a kike mutt would dislike him

amerikkkan education lol
socialism has always happened as a reaction to imperialist and colonialist forces, when the oppressed said enough and cut off the head of the snake

russia, china, cuba, vietnam, korea the list goes on and on

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There are exactly two posts in this thread discussing the actual film.


Keep Sup Forums in non-Sup Forums related Sup Forums threads. Threads about this political satire is for film discussion only.

Equal before the law and the creator - not in ability, ambition, fortune or physical prowess, you dumb shitposter.

>fake

the guy has no brain in his skull ffs

I thought you couldn't live with this much of your brain missing.

>to be fair, the bourgeois don't exist anymore
as long as private property and wage labour exist people will be alienated from the product of their work (ie proletarian) and other people will be parasitesstealing the product of labour (ie bourgeois)

>Freedom in the US is based upon complete social and legal equality
Equality of opportunity is not equality of outcome, brainlet.

The director is on record as saying he intentionally downplayed the absurdity of stalinst russia, the regime change(s), and the historical record in general, because he thought people wouldn't believe it.

So, yea, this could've been something truly brilliant had the total insanity been left in place. And, ya know, casting anyone other than jeffery tambor.

Getting really sick of all this "close but not quite because someone pussied out" crap that keeps coming out.

bro, you don't need the whole brain to live, only like some parts of it. we only use like 10% of the brain and as long as those ain't damaged you function normally.

I’m from a post USSR country. I don’t understand why people keep bringing up communism or socialism. It doesn’t exist anymore. It failed. Why keep talking about it.

Hurr durr we are all unique, I’m so clever, hurr. Let me tell you about a country that I’ve never been to. Base all my theories on jewtube videos hurr durr

Then I guess by that logic the only bourgeois that exist anymore are billionaires.

Because /leftypol/ keeps shilling a failed system, they don't give a shit about the millions that died under it. All they care about is their hatred to anyone doing better than them. Which is probably like 95% of the population.

>barely functional children patronising each others retarded, narrow opinions about a film that barely deals with actual ideology whatsoever

I wish they brought gulags back just for you

no, bourgeois by marxist standard are people who own the means of production and also own the labour of the proles who actually use said means of production

>Equality of opportunity is not equality of outcome

This, opportunity is great. Outcome? No, fuck off.

I agree with this, but doesn't it also inherently apply to democracy? If we can readily accept that people are not equal, why do we pretend all opinions are equal?

Yes it did lmao