The whole hyperspace plothole could have been fixed with ONE LINE OF DIALOGUE

The whole hyperspace plothole could have been fixed with ONE LINE OF DIALOGUE
>at the starts of the movie
>"Disable the gravity well generator. They'll just waste fuel if they enter hypespace"
>when they realise they're being rammed
>"Turn on the gravity well generator!"
>"It's too late!"
Was it really that hard?

The plot hole is that no one has ever done or thought of this before. No hyperspace torpedoes exist.

She should've been leia using a force trick
remember vader saying the force was stronger that destroying a planet
it should've been a great sent off for her
luke should've also tip toe the atats like domino pieces with the force

I still don't understand how this line of thought works. You're acting as if star wars space battles we're incredibly well thought out science fiction masterpieces but that's simply not the case. Nothing about x-wings or tie fighters makes sense and if the simple act of ramming completely decimates what logic remained then it was never worth preserving. If this was stat trek you'd have a much better case because the capital ship only combat is much more sensible, the way the lasers work is generally more realistic, and FTL travel is rooted in science instead of magic like Star Wars

Or the rebels infiltrating the ship at that very moment could have disabled something. And her fuckery with Poe could have been explained by the rebels suspecting a mole. The whole movie was scripted in a day and a bag of coke, then never redrafted.

I'm hardly a fan of the movie, but I'm pretty sure jumping into hyperspace INTO a ship the size of a small country would do SOMETHING to it.

Get your pocket dimension shit outta here, who cares nerd. Going forward, yeah we probably will see hyperspace torpedos and shit. Assuming I ever see another Nu-Wars movie again, anyway. I'll probably torrent episode 9 to give this shitshow peace in my mind but I'm certainly not paying for any more of them. Fuck Disney

it didn't happen in 40 years of EU
think about that
we didn't see the rebel fleet doing it in the endor battle wich was the highlight of the war so what else do you need?
we also didn't see star destroyers entering atmosphere in hoth or lightspeed passing the shield of endor
the movies had a set of rules and disney though them out and you can't defend that
we also saw in rogue one ships not crashing against the star destroyer at lightspeed so these movies are not even consistent between themselves
if what happen in tfa and tlj was "canon" the empire could've ligtspeed a tie fighter against the hoth shield generator but they didn't cause you couldn't do that, it's that simple

>I still don't understand how this line of thought works.
Suspension of disbelief only stretches so far. X-wings and lasers are easily overlooked, hyperspace ramming (or lack thereof in almost the entirety of the rest of the franchise) is not.

I don't agree at all. To me something either makes sense or it doesn't, it's black and white. X-wings, laser guns, and hyperspace are all unexplained, unrealistic phenomena. When the hyperspace ramming happened my brain automatically treated it as the schlocky space spectacle that star wars has always been to me

im still angry about this
purple hair and halo etc are fine but hyperspace ram is not fucking hell ruined SW series for me

why are people still talking about this shit?

you are a dumbass then cause you don't think about inuniverse rules
lightspeed ramming makes the ot and the pt useless
what's wrong with xwings or lasers again?

Not the way ftl works in star wars it wouldn't, its not acceleration.

>The whole movie was scripted in a day and a bag of coke, then never redrafted.

Most likely something like this, sometimes I wonder what was happening in the writers room to make a final product like this.

>retards concentrating on some minor problem
Nobody gives a shit about ramming.

your mom gives a shit about rimming though

Just think about it, the Empire's military tactics have evolved for 1000s of years, they are experts in every sort of engagement in space battle. Yet when a bunch of the Empire's ships come out of hyperspace behind the rebels in Episode VIII, they have absolutely no idea how to deal with the rebels.

Why didn't a couple of the the Empire's ships jump to lightspeed directly in front of Leia's ship? Then the empire could attack from multple directions, wouldn't this be standard practice in this situation when the Empire has more than one vessel?

The rebels literally went on holiday to the Rivera during the battle, and fucked up the F1 race at Monaco, while the Empire had no idea what to do. F1 teams need children in the pit lanes as only a child's fingers can manipulate the small parts of advanced engineering, this is not exploitative at all, those children go on to have careers as pit men and whores. How fucking stupid are Star Wars fans? Even Lucas wouldn't have done something as stupid as this, this is absolutely retarded.

No, I'm saying that the in-universe rules don't even exist for hyperspace or x-wings and no explanations is given for the way lasers differ from our world.
>X-wings
The way they and tie fighters maneuver is impossible in space
They're effective only at fighting each other; they shouldn't exist at all
Large ships all have the problem of not being designed to fight small fighters... Because small fighters are designed to fight small fighters... Do you see how retarded this is?
>Lasers
You cannot shoot a laser bullet
There's no way to design a lightsaber so that it would stop at a fixes length
The way the death star has three lasers converge in empty space

None of it makes any sense and has no in-universe explanation, in the movies at least. And no, autism catalogs and video games do not fucking count

you are the autist man, lasers have been in scifis forever
and you can't call it plasma if you want
like I said you are a moron that can comprehend how every scifi sets their own rules that have to be maintain in sequels wich the thousands of comics and games manage to do but somehow that's too much to ask for disney

Yep, there are so many holes that could have been easily filled with even the tiniest bit of effort. The fact that they chose not to do this shows how incompetent this writers are.

>The way they and tie fighters maneuver is impossible in space
Why? Cause they turn left? they have gravity so they can change it, its futuristic tech
>They're effective only at fighting each other;
no they aren't we see ywings and xwings taking down star destroyers
>they shouldn't exist at all
this happens in real life though
>Large ships all have the problem of not being designed to fight small fighters...
no, they can, is just that the fighters are faster than turbolasers

>Because small fighters are designed to fight small fighters...
yeah some of them, so?
>Do you see how retarded this is?
No, but I see you are retarded

>I don't agree at all. To me something either makes sense or it doesn't, it's black and white
It's called consistency within the same universe. It's not explained but it a common trope with common rules.
The fact you can hyperlight ram a capital ship is the opposite of that, it change everything and make you wonder what the fuck they were doing in the 7 previous episodes

That’s stupid.
Suspension of disbelief and internal consistency are absolutely vital for sci fi and fantasy. There have to be limits or the tension is gone. If there are no limits, you don’t wonder if the protagonist will get out of this one, you just wonder what bullshit they’ll pull to get out of it.
It’s why Rey going super Saiyan in 1 was such a terrible idea

you are saying that because goku can make kame kame has and this is imposible in life than it could be as stupid as him eating a whole planet or destroying a galaxy with a fart
well 99'9999% of fans of any franchise don't agree cause they understand that every fantasy or scifi has their own set of rules
you don't see aragorn flying, you don't see Jesus turning the water in humans into wine for giggles, you don't see a trex talking in jurassic park

I DO understand that sci fi films set their own rules different from our universe. A good example of that actually is Rian Johnson's Looper, because time travel is impossible and has no rules because it simply can't function, so Looper set up it's own rules and created a drama from that ruleset. That's actual science fiction, even if it's not that good.
Star Wars is a space fantasy where space is the aesthetic, not the drama, and the mechanisms of space travel, warfare, politics, etc are an afterthought, a backdrop to the drama that is cemented in the fantasy of the force. Because of this lack of focus, star wars has no in-universe explanation of certain phenomena and thus can't break the rules it doesn't have. A post like this
Is trying to read rules that don't exist. There is literally no explanation or rules in universe for why things happen the way they do in space battles in star wars. It doesn't stand up to basic scrutiny in the first place
I agree totally that with no limits and no rules there is no tension. It's why star wars is shit
Everything you said in this post, EVERYTHING, is wrong. All of it.

> you don’t wonder if the protagonist will get out of this one, you just wonder what bullshit they’ll pull to get out of it

This. They might as well have had ghost yoda strike the fleet with lightning.

you literally do not understand. The issue isnt whether something is space magic or not, but why nobody else in the 7 preceding movies has ever thought of using said space magic in the way it was used in TLJ. I can tell that you deliberately act retarded.

>There is literally no explanation or rules in universe for why things happen the way they do in space battles in star wars

But the fact is they DO happen that way, consistently, except for TLJ. It's not hard sci-fi, but there are clearly certain rules and TLJ broke them.

are you a women?

My way to combat that is that there is no logic behind why capital ships fight the way they do in the first place, so I'm not surprised that nobody thought of hyperspace ramming before. When I see the focus on small fighters instead of star trek like battles my brain immediately turns off because there's no sense to what's happening on screen. I honestly believe the explanation is that nobody writing star wars movies had ever had the thought cross their mind because they're terrible at science fiction

You're missing the point
Without a reason it invalidates all previous wars with 'why wasn't this done then?' and for all future movies, how are they meant to raise the stakes if this is an easy option that any small ship can decimate a much, much larger one?

>It's why star wars is shit
end of discussion, you are just a hater

>universe where large ships essentially have limitless fuel
>runs out of fuel
>still somehow enough energy to hyperspeed jump

Nothing about this fucking movie made sense.

You can't invalidate what's already invalidated. Why didn't the empire get rid of it's fleets of tie fighters and simply man the death star with more small cannons?

It was written by women which means it was written over cups of chai vanilla lattes and endless discussions about how great and strong and independent women are, and just how pink you can make their hair

like i said, you deliberately act retarded.

When I used to watch Dr Who I'd complain about stuff and people would always go 'well he's a timetravelling alien in a police box'! Pissed me off, like you said you need internal consistency

You’re not getting it
Suspension of disbelief in Star Wars is there so that space ships violate physics to work like fighter planes.
Internal constiency is that they act within the implicit restrictions shown in the film, unless something explicitly explains why they don’t. This means that the suspension of disbelief remains intact.

Hyperspace ramming violates internal consistency by performing an act never explained to be possible, and implied to be impossible due to the fact it never happened before.
This destroys willing suspension of disbelief by creating a deus ex machina, and makes people ask themselves why they bother getting invested in a setting that is willing to change the rules at a whim.

It’s writing 101

what are you even talking about?
what exactly doesn't make sense about cruisers in star wars?

I hope that in star wars episode 9 there's a capital ship with thousands of small guns located safely underneath it's shields and when the y-wing and x-wings approach it they get confused as to why no time fighters come out to meet them, then the small guns on the ship go berserk on the y-wings and the x-wings are completely ignored because they're not a threat, and you all shit your pants because
>Hurr why didn't anybody don't his before????
The answer is because everyone before was retarded. I'm sorry if hyperspace ramming ruined star wars for you but I don't have that much pity for you because if you took it seriously up until TLJ you are a brainlet beyond belief

>94952589
Was it autism?

Is the irony here that you cant even type consistently?
Seriously, your post is a mess

Doesn't fix much to be honest.

>"Let's render our flagship vulnerable for no reason, against desperate rebels who have nothing to lose. Oh, did I mention that the rebels beat our predecessors, the empire, by killing their leader. And our leader's onboard our flagship now, which you want to make vulnerable for some reason, even though there's no reason to."