GODZILLA

What are your thoughts about the movies?

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Unironic kino. I grew up watching these movies with my dad and they are forever comfy to me. Go Jet Jaguar!

I've seen the original and shin.
I'm fine with big monster battles being more of a focus but what should I watch next? I either want something that will be as good as those two or at the very least entertaining throughout

Mothra vs Godzilla (1964) or GMK are good places to start. They're legitimately well made and feel somewhat to the two you've already seen.

Showa and especially Heisei era films were great. Everything since has been awful. I reckon Godzilla: Final Wars may be the worst film ever made. It’s extremely bad and not in a good way like The Room.

thanks user gonna download that now

>Heisei era films were great
You mean only Return of Godzilla and Godzilla vs Biollante, right?

I wish Shin had a larger budget, I was fine with the plot being politically centric, but it could've used better effects and a few more Godzilla scenes.

Apart from SW they're the films I watched the most as a child. Some are good, some are downright terrible, some are good campy fun and a rare few are legitimate pieces of art. Shin Godzilla is one of this decade's best films imo

>a few more Godzilla scenes
There was actually a lot of Godzilla in Shin Godzilla. About 18 minutes of him if I'm not mistaken. Almost double that of Godzilla (2014).

>but it could've used better effects and a few more Godzilla scenes

I compromised that with the fact that Godzilla movies have almost always have cheap effects, or at the least effects that didn't seem "real". The PS3-tier CGI is just traditional Godzilla effects for the modern age.

No. Late Showa and all of Heisei on up to Godzilla vs Destroyah are kino.
They made Godzilla WAAAAYY too powerful in Shin. They made him so apocalyptically powerful that it sucked all enjoyment out of the film. Also not enough Fukushima references.

>Late Showa
The only movie worthwhile from that period is Godzilla vs Hedorah.

>Godzilla vs King Ghidorah - Godzilla vs Destoroyah
>Kino
Absolutely not. They're amateurishly shot, underwritten, and dully acted flicks that were dated on arrival. See the Gamera Trilogy for quality filmmaking.

Shin isnt meant to be a just a big monster to fight, he was meant to be an unstoppable force

>Also not enough Fukushima references.
What? There was a whole slew of them. The blue jumpsuits, the entire Persecution of the Masses sequence, the poor government response, the finale involving the trucks and the guys risking their lives to defeat Godzilla, the concern people had about radiation poisoning and citizens detecting it before the government, etc.

They're all shit but the next one will be kino

>they did something similar to what happened in a real life happening therefore it must be a reference to that real life happening
Not buying it. Draw parallels all you want but there really isn’t much in the way of social commentary regarding Fukushima or its handling in Shin Godzilla.

Shin is actually a glass cannon.

You'll want these: GMK, Godzilla 2000 (the American Version), Godzilla vs. Mothra, Invasion of Astro Monster.

I find these three are always easiest to get into. Also, try watching some other flicks by Toho, like Frankenstein Conquers the world. They're a treat.

Showa era aged poorly. Heisei still holds up.

No he isn’t, since his defense is to grow complete invulnerability to whatever has hurt him in the past via fast evolution.

I love them.

I even love the 98 Godzilla. Probably one of my favorite childhood films.

That's the exact opposite of reality. Split the Showa Era into two separate groups and that should help you better realize it. Godzilla (1954) to Monster Zero (1965) and Sea Monster (1966) to Terror of MechaGodzilla (1975). That accounts for most major differences in budgets, target audiences, and creative teams.

As for the Heisei Era: Did you want them to explicitly mention Fukushima? Godzilla is the substitute for the triple disaster and the movie is a coming-of-age story for Japan tackling the issue head on. Godzilla (1954) treats Hiroshima/Nagasaki, Fire bombings of Tokyo, and Lucky Dragon Incident the same way. Japanese coming to terms with post-disaster of the time reality and Godzilla representing that anxiety.

Godzilla 2000 (The American Version) is Shit.
All American Version of Godzilla (dubs) are shit.

>Godzilla 2000 (The American Version) is Shit.
Toho itself has admitted the American edit of Godzilla 2000 is better. Sony trimmed the movie down for smoother pacing and altered the score for greater dramatic effect.

>All American Version of Godzilla (dubs) are shit.
King of the Monsters, Mothra vs Godzilla, and Monster Zero have good dubs.

>tfw ywn be 8 again, watching Heisei era films on a 14 inch CRT
Does Shin Godzilla capture the magic of this series? I've been avoiding it, to not get disappointed.

2014 > Shin > the rest >>>>>> dogshit >>>>>>> ‘98

well i just see the Godzilla 2000. i preffer the Hattori Score...
But Tell me, you preffer Gigantis? and all those incomplete Movies? American Versions are mostly short than the original ones.

Just start watching one of the series from the beginning. The movies aren't extremely congruous (especially the Millennium series), but the Showa and Heisei movies do have their own timelines. You'll lose some things if you skip around too much.

Yes it does. It is the first Godzilla movie since the orginal to truly capture the feeling that Godzilla is a living natural disaster

The 2014 Legendary movie was live-action Cawadooty with about seven minutes of a giant obese crocodile incidentally.

Yes. Gigantis, King Kong vs Godzilla, and Godzilla 1985 were butcher jobs. And just about every dub after Hedorah is intolerable. Especially the dubs for the Heisei films. But I specifically named the American edits that are just as good or better than their Japanese counterparts: King of the Monsters, Mothra vs Godzilla, and Monster Zero.

>Showa era aged poorly.
Just use your suspension of disbelief. Not everything has to be super-serial in a giant monster movie. Showa era has the best score as well.
>Heisei still holds up.
Agreed, but there are no recurring monsters except for Godzilla and Godzilla Jr.

DUDE LIKE A MONSTER MOVIE BUT BUT LET'S MAKE IT ABOUT BUREAUCRACY AND SHIT I'M SO CLEVER LWLSOLEOSLOEISLSOEOSLSLSOSLSL

>King of the Monsters, Mothra vs Godzilla, and Monster Zero.
That's because those movies were good originally. KotM is not as good as the original Godzilla 54, in my opinion. Among other things, it spoils Tokyo's destruction right at the beginning of the movie.

>DUDE LIKE A STAR WARS MOVIE BUT BUT LET'S MAKE IT ABOUT WAR AND SHIT

If you like Heisei era you won’t like Shin Godzilla. It’s not meant to be a comfy monster flick like Heisei era films.
I don’t think you understand his question at all.

defend this garbage and explain why it's a good movie without mentioning Godzilla's death

>Godzilla jr fighting
>Crab alien predator monster
>freeze especial effects
>the score

Whats bad about it? The demon wings? The monsters not turning people into skeleton? The monsters on rails?

References 1954, villain is cool, and gives closure better than the final films in the Showa and Millennium series.

some of the 50s-70s ones were pretty decent. the more dialog it has, the more likely it will suck. there was a really terrible one that came out in the mid 00s where godzilla was only on screen for 10 minutes
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Opening sequence is pure kino.
youtube.com/watch?v=C3ifUE0dF48

He usually dowant have much screen time because budget
What movie are you refering though
Godzilla Meganulon?

>there was a really terrible one that came out in the mid 00s where godzilla was only on screen for 10 minutes

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>Whats bad about it?
The special effects are a mixed bag at best and often carelessly sloppy (see attack on Hong Kong sequence), the film lacks a sense of dread or urgency and ends up feeling bland (the world is supposed to be ending and no one seems to care), the characters are poorly wrought and the acting stale even for the genre, plot threads pop up to waste time and ultimately go nowhere, the references to Godzilla (1954) are far too explicit and only serve to remind viewers about the huge gap in quality between the two films, and the homage to Aliens is indefensibly awful. Also, I don't particularly care for how Koichi Kawakita shot his monster scenes. Specifically the fight scenes. They look like exactly what they are: immobile suits fumbling around an obvious set. Compare this to Higuchi's work on the Gamera Trilogy and Tsuburaya's work on the first few Godzilla movies. They're cinematic in quality, energetic, and imaginative.

Now remind everyone how Godzilla (2014) is thirty minutes longer than the average Godzilla film

>2014 is 123 minutes
>1954 is 96 minutes
really makes you think

The suits were the bulkiest and the budget was what it was

Reminder if you don't think final wars is true kino you are too much of a pleb to join this discussion

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>and the budget was what it was
Heisei Godzilla films had great budgets for the country and time. Honestly, the circumstances were never better to make great films. Audience interest was there (people who viewed Godzilla as kids were now adults looking for a nostalgia trip), the film industry was booming, and Toho was fully supportive of the franchise. And Kawakita chose to make the monsters larger and bulkier. He thought it was more realistic that way.

what did Sup Forums think of this and was it better than Godzilla '14?

IMO it had too much exposition, and glossed over the prologue where the earth gets attacked by the other kaiju too much, but I liked it better than 2014 since Godzilla was actually antagonistic, and didn't have its spotlight stolen by other monsters. I'm hoping the sequel will pick up the pace a little bit and introduce another monster.

>Godzilla in Hell is now insanely overpiced
Fucking IDW, not keeping their books in print.

>Absolutely not. They're amateurishly shot, underwritten, and dully acted flicks that were dated on arrival. See the Gamera Trilogy for quality filmmaking.
Kill yourself you autistic sperging lying newt. You wouldn't know quality even if I got dubs

just download it then

I'm on of those fags whoblikes to see books on their shelf. I've reaf it, it's amazing, now I wanna own it.

Subs where?

I fucking love Godzilla, OP. Best one was Godzilla vs. Ghidorah. It was cool to see time travel work in a Godzilla film.

Has anyone seen the anime on Netflix? Any good?

Netflix

Fuck that shit. I haven't had Netflix since they used to mail dvds to your house.

Gamera trilogy had greater camera work and effects but they were kind of boring

Gojira? Long may he live!

Cool premise. Garbage animation and writing. Couldn't handle the main characters angst

Me either I just use my dad's account. lol

No one cares about my get

I tried watching all of them and the only ones I liked were the 98 one and the original. The 2014 one was alright but watching jugheads run around doing nothing for 90 minutes was more tiresome than watching grown men dress up as monsters and thwack eachother in a miniature city.

Am I missing something in terms of the appeal to the franchise?

Godzilla 2014 problem was not the Godzilla Screentime, but the fact of the focus on the Mutos and Husband/wife shit. the Plot was focus just in them and nobody pay great attention on Godzilla really.
That´s wasn´t the case with Gojira 1954 or Shin Gojira were the plot was moving because of the Titular Character.

>watching grown men dress up as monsters and thwack eachother in a miniature city.
That's the appeal. Some of the stories can be a bit absurd, but the monsters have cool designs.

Planet of monsters was one of the worst pieces of shit i have ever watched

I love them. Even Godzilla's Revenge.

Godzilla '14 is basically a sequel to Gareth Edwards' Monsters with a cameo by Godzilla.

>watching grown men dress up as monsters and thwack eacho ther in a miniature city is the appeal
Different user, though I get little pleasure from that. I like watching complete films.

This. Too many teaser cuts away from Godzilla, and titular character spent too much time in the background.

They are complete films, but most people shit all over them because they have cheesy sci-fi plots that were typical of the genre in the 50's and 60's. The later movies are more serious, but I don't think you'll get as much out of Heisei and Millennium unless you start with at least a few of the Showa films.

I don't get the allure then, I suppose. Admittedly the of the designs were good and they would look good in high budget cgi or animatronics sparring off with godzilla and that giant moth like king something that looked a bit like a hydra, but as they are presented in most of the films I just couldn't get into it like I would have liked to.

>Pleb tier
I watch it for the silly monster fights!

>Bad tier
I watch it for the badass monster fights!

>Good tier
I watch it for the military vs monster fights!

>Great tier
I watch it for the symbolism of nuclear war and atomic destruction!

>Patrician tier
I watch it for the cute Asian girls!

A huge chunk of Godzilla movies are merely competent at best and a fair amount of them are outright bad. A lot are marred by wooden acting, poor editing, lack of substance, and incompetent effects work. Ishiro Honda made a few legitimately good films and an amazing one, Banno's Hedorah is one of the better films, Kankeo's GMK is quite fine, and obviously Anno turned in great work. I think the aforementioned films offer the most outside of the effects sequences.

>Ascended tier
I watch it for the human drama

Also Heisemberg in the Trailers.

Yeah of course special effects from 40+ years ago are going to look like shit today, but you just have to use your suspension of disbelief. A lot of the movies actually have pretty engaging human stories, even if they can be corny. Maybe I'm biased since I'm kind of a weeb anyway.

>I watch it for the cute Asian girls!
i like you

Patrician taste coming through

They're not worth the money people pay to go see them. You have to be a stupid fool to pay current prices to go sit in a room with a bunch of loud mouthed niggers and try to watch the absolute shit they show on the screen today. And even without the loud mouths, movies suck anyway.

>ywn have a pair of Asian twin onaholes
>ywn use one while the other waits in the drawer anxiously

They will summon Mothra to destroy your town if you lewd them.

>Yeah of course special effects from 40+ years ago are going to look like shit today
It should be noted that Tsuburaya often times didn't strive for realism. He went for whatever seemed most interesting or fun to him. So the effects shouldn't really be criticized for not being hyper-realistic. Besides, I find this complaint hypocritical since most CGI is glorified animation. You know that isn't real either. But I digress. And that's not say Tsuburaya was perfect. His puppetry and stop motion usually didn't work and Honda should have gotten on him about that. Otherwise, Tsuburaya's stuff is normally well shot and I think still holds up today as stylized effects work.

Challenge accepted

My dick unleashes an atomic blast every time I watch Shin.

Nice. Some of the Showa ladies are beauties as well.

Manga was better

She's Asian enough right?

Weird seeing this thread, planning to watch some Godkino tonight.

Sorry. I overlooked the subject of the thread. Thought you were talking about movies in general. But I don't watch Godzilla movies anyway. Never have. They don't hold any interest for me at all.

Her Engrish in that movie was sexy as hell.

What in particular?

Pick your favorites

Godzilla vs Biollante is my favorite.

The visual effects in that movie hold up ridiculously well.

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Is Urobuchi even capable of writing a bad anime?