There are exhaustive specs and blueprints of the Enterprise NX through E, the Imperial Star Destroyer and Death Star, even the Serenity and the Prometheus.
People rationalized every inch of the vessel to in-universe technology, filled it with amenities, measured and described every square meter of the design.
I notice none of this attention to detail has materialized for the USS Discovery, or the First Order Dreadnought, or any of the numerous Guardians of the Galaxy ships. Why did nerds stop caring?
Logan Bailey
>make uninspired shit >fanbase is uninterested
Oliver Sanchez
Probably because there's so much of it being released that there isn't enough time for the fans to breathe and speculate. There's also how fan speculation is apparently such a bad thing that Rian Johnson had to shit on it with TLJ so people aren't as enthusiastic about it.
Isaiah Thompson
Sci-fi is for women now and they don't care about boring stuff like that, they care if the mediocre looking girl with incredible abilities is ever going to get with the brooding bad boy that has a soft spot in his heart for her
Bentley James
Maybe people finally realized that Star Trek isn't meant to be taken seriously?
Elijah Peterson
Marvel's to blame for this.
Simpler is better now. Just look at the prequels vs sequels in Star Wars. If you want even anything semi-specific you get bombarded with insults and "dude turn ur brain off"
Jacob Adams
>There are exhaustive specs and blueprints of the Enterprise NX through E, the Imperial Star Destroyer and Death Star, even the Serenity and the Prometheus. I'm not exactly sure why people would waste years of their life on such inconsequential details. It's not even world building, as none of this is ever required to understand the films.
Jason Russell
Star Wars never that type of sci fi though. Autists retroactively did those things. As a series it was never focused on explaining anything.
Jaxson Mitchell
Neither was Star Trek, if you recall.
Dominic Perez
Yeah that too. It's all autists arguing about stuff that isn't even in the source material. Most sci-fi that actually explains shit is still relegated to books since no one wants to see a movie that's half tech exposition.
Samuel Nelson
Star Wars has the "Incredible Cross Sections" books, so the First Order ships should be explained there. Discovery's merch (besides easy shit like T-shirts and coffee mugs) is just starting to come out with the Eaglemoss models, and it's probably too early in the show to do a tech manual. also the most autistic fans, like the guy who runs Ex Astris Scientia absolutely hate Discovery, so they're just going to keep cranking out TOS/movies/TNG-era shit until they croak.
>capeshit tech >anybody caring enough to blueprint that
Wyatt Rogers
What about techno babble?
Chase Clark
Trek lends itself to tech autism more than Star Wars, because the ship is a main character on each series and they reroute things through the deflector dish instead of using the Force.
Star Wars doesn't spend enough time on any given spaceship (aside from the Millennium Falcon, and maybe the Ghost from Rebels) for it to matter where anything is and what it can or can't do.
Benjamin Miller
>make uninspired shit thats the real issue
Sebastian Murphy
Star Wars is fantasy... so it needs no explanation of its tech. (bombers in space is fine)
Star Trek is science fiction.... So it does.
James Scott
Star Wars is releasing cross-section books for every movie now
Jose Carter
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Easton Torres
fpbp
Aiden Kelly
People used to watch scifi to dream about new tech and think of the implications it brought. Thus the autism, trying to flesh out every little detail about the technology, then planning systems and ships out of it. Now it's all escapism or just established franchises moving on momentum. People don't care for such details because either they never would in the first place (and wouldn't have been fans of scifi back in the days) or they aren't optimistic about the future like that any more.
William Moore
Yeah, but they've released official guidebooks to ships and weapons and stuff. Don't act like it's all from the fans.
Xavier Barnes
Did anyone else read those star wars cross-section books?
Those were amazing
Blake Miller
It's not nerds making this stuff anymore, it's soulless VFX houses renting out their render farms and foreign slave-labor.
John Hughes
>ywn get to illustrate these books
Mason Jones
>Symptoms of ASD >problems with understanding another person’s point of view
This may explain your confusion.
Wyatt Edwards
There isn't anything like that for Discovery because the show sucks ten different kinds of ass by catering to the Game of Thrones crowd instead of the Star Trek audience that might actually care about those technical details. The producer is more or less on record as not giving a damn about internal consistency in the set and tech design to match the prime universe and just wanted things that "looked cool". As far as the First Order Dreadnought is concerned it doesn't have a cross section that goes into detail because it was literally designed as a flat two dimensional set piece to be destroyed in a WW2 style bombing run in space instead of its role defining the ship design. The ship was designed in post production based on JJs idea that it needed to be flat and have a bunch of turrets to simulate being a ground target, so the ship ended up being a flying slice of pizza with only 26 dorsal guns on a ship over 7km in size. The Finalizer and Supremacy were actually detailed to a suitably autistic level because they were more fleshed out as ships in their own right. As far as Guardians ships not having any detailed info it's probably because the movies they are featured in are focused on Marvel superheroes instead of the tech driving the setting.
Colton Cox
Meant to say Rian dictated the Dreadnought design. Probably mixed up JJ due to the terrible designs in the Kelvin timeline Trek movies.
Jordan Sanchez
>There isn't anything like that for Discovery believe me we tried to do it, but we were cock blocked at every level.
Anthony Peterson
There used to be a time not too long ago where you could buy unlicensed fan works in retail stores and at conventions. There were a ton of third party books and blueprints for Star Trek to be had during the 90s for instance, but now the owning companies have cracked down so much on fanart and fanfilms that have good or better production values than the source material to the point people don't care as much about the latest official content that is put out.
Aiden Torres
marvel had made up cross section encyclopedia stuff made for some of it's comic book vehicles, bases, and armor. seems like people tend to get more interested in 'lore' about things besides engineering and physics related things however.
