Would you choose freedom or the Matrix?

Would you choose freedom or the Matrix?

matrix. Freedom is a meme.

Depends how butthurt I was about not getting to 69 Trinity

are you kidding me, zion is a fucking zoo

God this scene always makes me so hungry

>reee they want to use us as power for the deal of being in a functioning society rather than piece of shit world eating snot every day

i'd want to get outside of "freedom".

the matrix is real freedome

Is that fucking coriander? On a steak?

It's parsley garnishes.

Id choose the matrix i think the machines would keep their word and wouldnt screw me over if i just wanted back in with a couple changes in code that gave me some perks.

When two people met and had a child in the matrix did the machine extract sperm and inseminate the corresponding humans and give them their child or did the machines essentially just have a breeding farm and plugged new kids into the matrix constantly?

Are starving africans real? would be pretty shit luck to be in the matrix as a poor rice farmer or slum dweller.

If no one tells me I'm not 'in the real world' why would I give a shit either way?

Matrix but I will be the most powerful man ever and legalize it ;)

>gets input back to matrix with memory wiped
>goes on same path he did before and Morpheus saves him again

Seeing as Tokyo and its inhabitants are in the Matrix, I guess so.

If the Matrix was the only world I'd ever known why the hell would I care about being "free" in some alien wasteland I'd never seen before
It's not like the machines are keeping you from doing anything you could normally do by keeping you in the matrix, so are they even oppressing you in any meaningful way

It wasn't even a choice. They were talking over people with a bunch of cryptic shit without giving them any indication of what they were getting themselves into. Kind of a scumbag thing to do desu.

Isn't it canon that zion wasn't even in the real world either? That's why Neo still had a connection to the machines and powers there. For all they know they're still plugged in from a higher "dimension".

>fork in the right hand
Disgusting.

Matrix

>odds stacked against you
>never ending trouble at school. teacher has a grudge on you. piles of bills that i would've payed
>gf love your shekels instead of you
>feminism everywhere
>I'm realizing just now that I've chosen wrong course
>etc.


yea i chose freedom right NOW!!!

And Smith possessed bane(?) who wasn't connected to the matrix IIRC

Pretty sure he's left handed.

he overwrote his brain. but still jesus is neo and smith is the devil is the basic architecture however you want to go with it

Freedom. I'd want to fight against the robots that had cucked humanity. Die fagbots

>This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes

Matrix and I would ask them if I could keep my memory of the "real" world so I can appreciate the Matrix even more.

Freedom. Asking to have your memories wiped so you can live in the Matrix is like asking to be lobotomized.

>What is real? How do you define 'real'? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.
What did he mean by this?

BRAIN?

The depends.
Do i get to choose my matrix like cypher did. or am i stuck in my current shitty life except death doesnt end it and just resets it? in that case i choose freedom so I can actually neck myself. If i get cyphers choice I choose to be chad.

It means that empiricism is hogwash

Matrix.

>tfw you realize Zion isn't the real world, but just another level of the matrix intended for the 1% who rejected its programming

maybe starving africans are just bots to make us think the world is shit so it couldn't possibly be a simulation

Interesting theory, maybe people initially rejected the Matrix which was supposed to be paradise for everyone but by adding starving African NPCs people are actually more content and accepting of their situation.

The steak looks way too chewy.

They're being used as living batteries in tanks while fed hallucinations as their bodies atrophy. That's pretty bad really even if you're not a fan of gay marriage.

you presumably cannot reproduce so, that would be a pretty meaningful metric for oppression

no just bad writing, neo used wifi to hack or whatever horseshit and bane got brain drained which shouldnt even be possible

well done > medium > raw

>Being a no-taste faggot

>choose to be chad
that just brings in more questions, would you still even be you if you had such drastic memory loss?

Cypher was such a gullible moron
>I wanna be someone famous
Yeah I'm sure Smith has every obligation to keep up his end and you'll remember anything previous to being plugged back in

cypher was a vengeful beta manlet just trying to get revenge on his stacy, smith would have let the squids toast him

BURNT BLACK WITH KETCHUP > raw > medium

I honestly think he would've. Machines don't really have a need for deception after the fact. I imagine if they said they'd do it, they would.

Medium raw pls.

Smith was a bit of an anomaly even before getting NEO'd I can see him making Cypher some transient in matrix Romania just for the slight jab at humanity. See his interrogation of Morpheus

Perhaps, but I honestly think he'd be grateful. He desires his own redundancy. I just don't see machines being deceptive in a deal. I think they'd just be systematic and tick off everything they said they would.

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why would they take the risk/waste the time of moving cypher back into the matrix when they can just kill him?

Because that would be wasting a commodity.

>Brisket is burnt on the outside and undercooked in the middle
how do you fuck up this badly?

It's one guy compared to the millions or more they have growing. Also I think the whole memory wipe thing is a bluff, it would really be possible from a realistic perspective without causing tons of brain damage and if they could do it why not do it to Neo?

Be a rich asshole in the matrix or spend your days toiling in zion for literal spics and niggers to have their orgies.
Yeah, tough call.

Fucking pleb. That's called bark and it's the result of hours of expert smoking at the perfect temperature. Dark and flavorful on the outside, perfectly tender on the inside.

this

MORE!

>It's one guy compared to the millions or more they have growing.
How are they risking those by plugging him back in?
>Also I think the whole memory wipe thing is a bluff, it would really be possible from a realistic perspective without causing tons of brain damage and if they could do it why not do it to Neo?
Did they need to? He woke up in bed and assumed he'd had a crazy dream. He would've gone on thinking that had Trinity and co not got him.

I would 100% choose the matrix. I don't place any value on actual reality vs. a simulated one. It's pretty much a perfect simulation so who cares.

>the matrix was actually about the wach brothers feeling like the real world was a cage because of their transgender tendencies and freeing yourself meant embracing transgenders fags niggers etc...

>How are they risking those by plugging him back in?
I'm saying he's not very valuable, if there was a 0.01% chance he suicide emps the grow colony or even just a few sentinels it's a loss for them, so killing him is the much safer option.
>Did they need to? He woke up in bed and assumed he'd had a crazy dream. He would've gone on thinking that had Trinity and co not got him.
If they had he wouldn't have gone to the car ride with trinity/switch, would have just thought who are these nutters and fucked off. They could even just wipe him and move him somewhere else.

Why wasn't he wearing gloves when preparing the sausage? Did he go to the toilet and forgot to put them on?

>falling for that lame ass bait

i would choose freedom + mouse simulations.

it's mouse with her as a skin, not an AI

ok no more internet for today

Freedom.

I would choose that steak

>I'm saying he's not very valuable, if there was a 0.01% chance he suicide emps the grow colony or even just a few sentinels it's a loss for them, so killing him is the much safer option.
Maybe. I just don't see there being a risk and as I said, I don't see treachery as coming from a machine.
>If they had he wouldn't have gone to the car ride with trinity/switch, would have just thought who are these nutters and fucked off. They could even just wipe him and move him somewhere else.
They stuck the tracker in him, I assume they wanted Morpheus to get in touch with him long enough for them to track them down. I'm guessing they didn't know they had that device to remove trackers.

Freedom. I'd rather suffer with the real thing than have a comfy illusion. Knowing if it is or not doesn't matter. Anyone not desiring freedom is a serf and should be burned on a pyre.

>switch was originally supposed to be a man in the real world and a woman in the matrix

what did they mean by this?

You probably believe in free will too.

I will always choose freedom over the Matrix. Always.

same desu

and i suck at cooking steak

I'd rather not eat slops of shit in the matrix, thanks

You say treachery but the converse is them being honorable, which they also have no reason to be. You're right about the tracker bit, but they could also have just wiped neo and made his new mind some secret agent tier shit with orders to kill morpheus

At least matrix has white people.

>You say treachery but the converse is them being honorable, which they also have no reason to be.
It's not about honour. It's just doing what they said they would, just being systematic.

what do you call it when you keep your word, against your own interest?

Matrix. The machines aren't all bad, at least they make us comfortable.

It depends if it's really against their own interest. If it wasn't a viable option, I doubt they would have even propositioned Cypher in the first place.

Kek

are you saying theyre too stupid to lie, because the entire matrix is one big lie and they lie to neo about morpheus

No, I'm just not saying they're too stupid. Just that deception isn't something commonly associated with machinery.

What in the ever loving fuck is wrong with you? I am so hungry.

Pleb. That looks perfect.

>would I rather watch movies and shitpost on Sup Forums all day or live in a hellish future underground hiding from killer machines

I'll pick the Matrix. Probably already in one desu.

>then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.
How can you argue against empiricism yet accept the existence of the human brain

if the matrix is all i'll ever know, the only reality i'll ever know, i pick that.

busting out of the matrix into the real world would just bring about further existential dread - mainly, questioning if this supposedly 'real' world was also a matrix, which i don't remember being tackled in the films because it would overcomplicate things.

>pic related

The matrix every fucking time.
Especially if I could titfuck Persephone.

>which i don't remember being tackled in the films because it would overcomplicate things.
it was the real world, but essentially another matrix as it was just another level of control over the humans

did the wachowskis ever cover how reproduction was handled in the matrix?

Logically if the machines wanted to introduce more humans to replace dead ones they'd just have the females "become" pregnant any time they fucked.

>They're being used as living batteries
Yeah and the government makes me pay taxes, that shit isn't anything new

>as their bodies atrophy
Something I'm completely unaware of and which has zero impact on my life as long as I don't wake up to the hellish dystopia my body inhabits

We don't really know anything about the logistics of reproduction, for all we know reproducing in the matrix is mirrored by artificial insemination IRL

I, for one, welcome our robot overlords.