"A Special Access Program is an intelligence program classified above top-secret...

"A Special Access Program is an intelligence program classified above top-secret. They are held on closed servers at secret locations. The only way to get one is if you are specifically read on to a program, have a need to know, then you must physically go to a location and pass through several layers of security to even look at the program. A good example in non-classified terms would be the locations and operations of our intelligence operatives around the glove, or our missile silo locations. SAP is granted on a need to know basis, and Hillary did not have any need to know any of the programs on her server. All I can tell you about the SAPs is that Hillary had them, and she did not have proper authority to have any of them. They were leaked to her by someone, and she did sell them to overseas donors. Possessing them alone makes her guilty of treason."


If these "SAP" programs are so secretive that you have to go to a secure location to see them, then it doesn't made sense that they could be viewed remotely from someones home. Secondly, if they did have a remote access feature, then they would have had to give Hillary access at some point, and or would be able to tell that she was accessing the program. Third, if she did have a SAP program installed on her computer it would have been relatively useless as the important information likely resides on some government server in a secret location that wouldn't be accessible remotely. In summary, if these SAP's are as important as people say they are then there wouldn't be away to access them remotely, and IF there were away it would be closely monitored and they would know anytime someone accessed the program thus it wouldn't be some secret that she had access.

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I am referring to fbianons posts.

I think this kind of proves that fbianon was full of shit.

That's why it's treason son, because she was literally stealing secrets at the highest level. The question is who did she sell tje secrets to.

How do you figure? Where is the fault in my logic? Either it was so secret that the programs wouldn't be able to be accessed remotely, or she would have had to have been given access in which case it wasn't a secret and other people would have been aware that she had the programs on her computer.

bump. This is a legit question, I want a real answer.

Software can be reversed, government software can be worth millions to crackers or other governments. All the SAP thing about being something super secretive is probably bullshit, if someone has connections in specific agencies with the highest level of privilege (like those agencies Comey couldn't even name in court), I imagine it shouldn't be an issue to access or even create copies of such software.

Sure but that software would be connected to a database at a remote location. There is no way that she would have been able to access it remotely without having had an account, and other people knowing that she was using the system. Do you see the logic issue? It's either so secret that you can only get to it from a secure government site, or it's not so secret and she was granted access the system, which means that she would have been allowed to use it remotely, or it means that she simply had a front end "client" that wouldn't be able to access anything unless the computer was brought on site where the server was.

Figures all you Trump conspiracy theorists wouldn 't respond when faced with a fact that disproves your bullshit.

Facts don't care about your feelings. That's why people ignore them.

Get bent retard

Prove me wrong then. You can't. Either she was knowingly given remote access to the programs, or there was no way that she could have accessed them remotely.

some of this shit is like the noc list from the first MI movie. the punishment for selling something like this should be hanging by the neck until dead

>There is no way that she would have been able to access it remotely without having had an account
what makes you think she didn't have an account and prior authorization from one of the secretive agencies, as I mentioned above? as I said, the super secretive part about SAP sounds more tinfoil-crazy than the reptilian conspiracy theories, if you honestly think there's such a thing, you should probably rethink about it.

Explanation, in a nutshell;

He wasn't entirely wrong, but he wasn't wholly right either.

SAPs can be networked into in some cases, but not in others- SAPs that pull data from outside HAVE to be connected to the Internet, and if someone gives her access to a backdoor it'd be easy to have someone remote her in.

But most SAPs are entirely closed-off, isolated programs on a system- it's physically impossible to remote in, as they're not connected.

It's a legitimate question that I also had, but the answer is you and I simply don't know the specifics of it. There could be a retarded way to bypass all this through corruption. We don't even know of this whole thing is true or how exactly it played out. Maybe they find a way to bypass the access point/found a backdoor on the system/bribed an NSA technician.

did it ever cross your mind that a "copy" would be the client to view the files AND the files/information itself?

why are you pretending "a copy" is anything but clear fucking english that someone ripped a classified program that is supposed to be on a secure 1 point access physical system and handed it to clinton?

the fact that you're here correcting the record proves her guilt CTR.

She's given up the swing states and canceled all appearances. It's Ogre. Prepare for prosecution for FCC violations on political disclosure or your imminent suicide when miss secretary cleans up loose ends.

The whole idea is that she had these programs on her computer that she wasn't supposed to have, which gave her access to classified information. I am not the one who came up with the SAP conspiracy, I am merely disproving it, which also discredits fbianon and others who think that Hillary had illegal access to these so called SAP programs.

Lol at claiming SAPs are well protected. Send the Clinton Foundation 10 grand or so and they'll email a zip of whatever you want to a gmail address.

You are not disproving it, you are making wild allegations about things that you, me and most people know little to nothing about. It would be as if I said I disproved the Big Bang Theory because I said so.

>our operatives around the glove

I am glad however that you're bringing this up. Is the SAP story about to go public?

So you're saying she was given a copy of the source code to a classified program? That makes no sense at all, and I've never seen someone claim it was the source code. And either way there is no way that she would have been handed the source code without people knowing. And just because she had source code doesn't mean that she would have and access to the live database.

Are you implying she would have a copy of the database and all associated software? I find that unlikely as you still have the problem of her getting it out of secret facility, also it obviously wouldn't contain live data, rendering it much less useful. If these programs are so secret I find it hard to believe that their would be some easy way of simply copying them. Not to mention that they likely require special equipment and connections for them to be useful.

>which also discredits fbianon and others who think that Hillary had illegal access to these so called SAP programs.
what exactly is discrediting what?

>be hillary
>have friends in cia
>get provided with client-side secure software and login credentials from your connection
>access everything remotely
>do whatever you want with files and software
whether it was cia or dea or something else, I don't know but it's a fact that she had connections to agencies on the same (if not higher) level of privilege, the agencies Comey couldn't say the name because that alone could be considered treason under secretive circumstances revolving around hillary clinton.

The logic is simple. If you have to go to a secured location to access said programs then they can't be accessed remotely. If they can be accessed remotely then why would you have to go to a secret location to access them? It doesn't make sense. The implication is that these programs provide real time information about secret programs, in which case you would need live access to the server hosting the information.

Because he was lying about the SAP programs that Hillary supposedly had. Which means that if he was lying about that, the rest of his stories are likely also lies .

>If they can be accessed remotely then why would you have to go to a secret location to access them?
It's simply software, if there is request or need, a programmer can make copies or extensions of it, included (and not limited to) remote controlling features. All the programmer needs is an order from an authority who can give such orders.

you people seriously don't even know what sap is. its a client/server system. she was secretary of state so she clearly had the highest of access from her client to the sap server. where negligence comes into play is if she downloads and either saves highly classified info onto an unsecured server or sells/sends it. the former is much more likely the issue than the latter.

Info about silos for example may be SAPs. You may have to go there to access stored records. That doesn't mean that the very top people go there themselves. Do you think POTUS has to go to Nebraska to get some secret info?

The info is probably never supposed to be stored outside of those facilities, or destroyed immediately after the VIP has the info.

Maybe hillary stored it and shared it illegally.

It doesn't really matter. As soon as there is a hint of that in the media, Hillary is done. Her whole persona is being this "serious" politician who will protect America's interests. If she can't live up to that, she has nothing going for her.

This is retarded. Clearly whoever made OP's quote has no working knowledge of TS/SCI or what kind of information the Secretary would have access.
His definition of 'Special Access Program' is totally overblown as well.

Why are you assuming every SAP requires some sort of connectivity and cannot be persisted on disk then ran on any machine?

It's already been through the media. Comey outlined what SAP is and confirmed that it was found on the server.

Also the FBI and SS have stated that hillary took her blackberry into buildings where no devices are allowed which would explain how SAP material got onto her private system.

it doesn't, you operate under the sense that things only happen over the table

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nice try faggot CTR

>then it doesn't made sense that they could be viewed remotely from someones home. Secondly,

You can just stop right there.

SAP data is held on airgapped networks in secret locations. The computers themselves have all ports glued shut.

There is no internet access to these machines. At all.

I am of the opinion she paid certain individuals with access to specific SAP data to infiltrate with camera / cell phone technology, transcribe and re-create the information, which was then sold.

She is a traitor of the highest order and she deserves to be hung from the steps of the capitol, along with all of her co-conspirators, for as many years as this country has stood.

Why are you assuming an SAP requires a computer?
Knowing who works in a building can be part of an SAP, know certain dates might be part of ones, etc.
It covers a much broader scope of things than most people realize. It's also very common for most with a clearance to be read into many of these during their careers.

are all the other fbianon threads compiled like this? if so can someone post them? it's a bitch to read them on that archive site

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When can we revoke woman's right to use our Internet. Fucking woman.

All it means is that someone took SAP material out of an accredited space: prima facie evidence of intent.

OP is a faggot.