I asked Starfire creator Marv Wolfman (who created Starfire with artist George Perez)...

>I asked Starfire creator Marv Wolfman (who created Starfire with artist George Perez), and he was kind enough to explain the situation.
>As it turns out, the answer is no
Really jumpstarts my frontal lobe

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>As it turns out, the answer is no
Well that's only because he's racist, user. Thank goodness they're casting a black woman as Starfire. Reparations must be made for all the lack of black superheroes out there!

>As it turns out, Raven supposed to be black
It would be better desu

So are they going to paint her orange like Gamora?

>"Why is the evil demon character the black one?"

I'm just glad this show will exist on a platform that almost nobody will watch it on.

They would if their collective insanity was only at 2014 levels. In 2017 not only do they have to leave her original skin color in tact, but they have to human-sacrifice a stuntwoman for the religious cause.

>"Why is the evil demon character the black one?"
It's the evil demon's daughter not the demon himself

The thing is gamora was nowhere near any human skin color.
Stairfires orange looks kind of white at times.

Why do they keep making capeshit shows that will inevitably fail?

Eh just slap some paint on her and it might work. Injustice Starfire doesn't exactly habe caucasian features either.

>Race doesn't matter but if I ever have to acknowledge that other races exist I'm going to throw a tantrum.
It's going to suck regardless because Teen Titans only has 3 plots. Raven goes demon and rapes everyone, Terra shows up and betrays them, then everyone dies and they do a reboot. Who the fuck cares.

At least Raven was cast decently.
Now watch them bring out Damian instead of Dick. Starfire's actress looks already to be much older than Raven's (who is actually 14-15)

>Damian
Uh..

That Raven had pretty big tits

>Starfire is a slave and a savage
>"she must be black!"
Love Liberal logic.

You're acting as if they won't have him as Nightwing and have Damian as Robin

And wanted some head if the demon dick.

It's pretty much the definition of Americentrism, so I'm not surprised it was seen as possible. To Americans, the only slaves that existed were the blacks and jews.

So Dick confirmed for whiney bitch?
Did they cast Beastboy too? Watch him be black as well.

Not as big as the series one, but she's also younger in the movies.

Not to Americans, just liberals.

THATS

I hate it when people try to ignore one's demonic heritage. She should be red with six eyes all the time if they want to be progressive!
Damn humanwashing!

They have to make Star black, because her natural skin color would make people think of drumpflstiltskin and trigger seizures

She wasn't even a stun woman, she was a bike racer that won titles or something and was hired to do stuns that she was training to do with stun specialist only to not get good enough and die because "muh diversity" was more important than being practical about the situation.

Diversity had nothing to do with the poor woman's death. It was Fox being shit and instead of going with any stunt driver they wanted one that was a woman to fit the Domino actress. It was pure incompetence from their part.

Starfire's skin has never looked white. She has orange skin. Like, so orange Trump would be jealous. That's not fucking human. Then there's the fact she has green eyes and hair set on fucking fire.

What, no link? No greentext of the article? No pastebin?

>For the record, Marv also made sure to point out to me how ridiculous he felt the criticisms of Diop’s casting was, as he correctly notes that there aren’t any 6’7 golden-skinned people with feline eyes on Earth, so you were always going to have to pick someone who didn’t technically look like Starfire, so why would it matter what ethnicity they were?

Fucking Cronin, getting on that clickbait train.

it's a >retards pretend the only difference between the races is skin tone episode

What about facial features and body type.

And the demon was never around. Makes perfect sense.

SHE LOOKS JUST LIKE STARFIRE!

I love this casting! Yaas queens fuck Drumpf

This worked out so well for Fantastic Four, The Dark Tower, Death Note, and so much more. This is a GREAT idea.

God DAMN Africans are so COOL!

Intellectually I know Wolfman has no reason to lie but I still feel the need to call bullshit on that.

See

>Stairfires orange looks kind of white at times.
Are you colour-blind by any chance?

Don't blame Idris Elba for the Dark Tower being shit.

this isn't a movie, if anything shows with black people tend to do really well since a lot of black people watch TV on cable still

Actually can we just make every character black?

Africans are just sooo cool, every character should be a somali

>people with feline eyes
HER EYES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE EMPTY, NO IRIS AND NO PUPILS.

I hope Sup Forums is clear headed enough to realize that live action Titan series will be shit no matter what and that casting a black chick is hardly gonna be the worst thing about it.

I dunno, feline eyes sounds sexy as fuck.

Are you seriously pretending the black actors in those movies were what was wrong with them? They sucked because they were poorly written.

SO

PERFECT casting

Don't get me wrong, feline eyes are sexy but her eyes are cuter and sexier when they are empty.

Boy that sounded wrong

RAVEN!

Those movies would've been shit with or without the black casting, you retard.

I thought Raven was meant to be Indian.

Why isn't the fact that they made the alien black seen as problematic?

Watch out, he is going to pull out the
>Race switching was a sign that the movies where going to be bad
argument.

Calm down Sup Forumsmblr. When will you accept that some people don't like their favorite characters being blackwashed? JUST GET THE FUCK OVER IT

We don't like it, we've never liked it, we still don't like it. Kill yourselves literally.

Thee fucking threads should be fucking banned. I don't think anyone comes to Sup Forums to read about Sup Forums shit. Fuck off to your own hole you Sup Forums shitposters. Stop ruining this board even more than it already is, Goddamn it.

No I get you user. Doll eyes turn you on.
For here, that's normal.

Go back =====> reddit

well then why is the black community being insulted by race bending existing heroes instead of creating new enthralling black heroes with unique legacies all their own?

reparations are the fever dreams of the lazy and apologetic morons. recognize the deficient correct it and go on. comics needs to stop being racist and making "pageantry" out of their half assed and racist attempts at "diversity"

If you're going to pick a black actress, they should have gone with a mixed one or an Ethiopian. Diop's hideous, like most black women.

That's true though. it might not be the sole reason those movies are shit but it sure is indicative of their lack of respect for the material from the outset

So in other words, diversity.

I swear I thought I read an interview that said the same thing. I can't remember if it was an interview with Wolfman or Perez though.

REDHEADS ARE ENDANGERED
youtube.com/watch?v=6RmLCx9Bxpg

Starfire's face has been drawn so many ways that she could be orange-painted black.

BETTER DEAD THAN RED!

You can complain all you want, baby. Just stop pretending that blacks being cast as whites is the only reason those movies sucked. I want adaptations to be as true to the source material as anyone else, but I'm not so buttblasted I'll blame the whole thing being shit on one actor. That's fucking retarded.

Been saying this for years. I'm sick of Sup Forums shit on Sup Forums.

If you want to blame diversity for incompetence then go ahead.

The incompetence came about because of diversity. Idiots get mad when about "blackface" stunt actors so they went with someone who was unqualified.

My headcanon is that Raven is Egyptian.
It works because Raven's mom is a street orphan and therefore can be any race I want.

So the issue is that I'm complaining. You know it's shit just as well as I do.

Well fuck yourself, I'm going to keep complaining until my favorite comic book characters stop getting racebent for some fucked up unhinged SJW agenda, ok?

> I want adaptations to be as true to the source material as anyone else,

Then you agree changing the characters hurts an adaptation then?

>but I'm not so buttblasted I'll blame the whole thing being shit on one actor.

Changing a character's race requires that the character to be changed, and people want to see the characters they like from comics and cartoons be represented as they were intended. They don't want to watch some diversity experiment for political brownie points you nu-male fag.

So why did this goy quit?

they could have at least got someone that was at least 6 feet tall and younger looking.

No, Jinx is Indian.

Isn't the incompetence because those working on it wanted to do forced diversity, much like the Ghostbusters remake?

cbr.com/titans-starfire-originally-going-to-be-black/
marvwolfman.com/marv/TITANS_TOWER.html

>In the middle column, I listed the Titans I knew would be members. I had already come up with Cyborg, so he's listed, as well as Robin, Wonder Girl, Kid Flash and Changeling (I'd already changed his name from Beast Boy). If you can make it out, next to Kid Flash's name I wrote in, and then whited out, "new name?" I wanted to make Wally West his own man and not a junior version of Flash. Heck, even Robin had his own name. He wasn't Batboy or Kid Bat. I don't know why I never did change his name, but that was my original intent. Perhaps the fact that it's whited out means I dropped the idea pretty quickly. Remember, this was 23 years ago.

>You can see I typed Starfire's name later on down the list, once I decided to use her, but I left room for other possible characters above her, in case I preferred them instead. Much later on I wrote in the name Raven. If you look at the column to the right, Raven is listed under General Names with the notation "A black?"

>I was trying to decide if there should be two black characters in the Titans, which was unheard of at the time. But I felt if there was another black character in the group, besides Cyborg, his or her name should not reflect the color of their skin.You don't see White Superman or White Green Lantern, and such, so why should a black character be defined by skin color instead of who he or she is. At that time in comics, of course, using the word Black before a name to indicate the color of skin was being done a lot: Black Goliath. Black Lightning. Black Panther. Etc. I reacted against the sterotype and decided though I was going to use the name Raven, she would not be black.

>And yes, your eyes are not deceiving you, I do have Jughead Jones on the list. I figured Archie wasn't using him all that much, so why not? (KIDDING!) The same goes with Binky, although he actually was a DC teen character.

Oh no, they're incompetent too, I'm right there with you.

Anonymous? I'm not sure if you know this or not, but you're not making a lot of sense right now.

Because Alice Monaghan's cultural heritage wasn't respected properly

Wasn't Starfire based on a Mexican hooker? Wouldn't this be hispanic erasure?

She looked like someone with a tan.

To the point where she can just go out in civilian clothes, and nobody acts weirded out or comments on her skin colour.

Are you retarded?

She stepped into Gotham PD once and the entire room of policemen and lesbians' pants went wet because of how exotic she is.

She was in her costume in that panel. If you put her in civilian clothes and green tint sunglasses she passed as human.

>Changing a character's race requires that the character to be changed.
Starfire is still gonna be an alien.
The gunslinger was the still the gunslinger.
I haven't watch Death Note.

>revolving doors
The fuck?

So who are they casting for the role of Blackfire?

Her skin is supposed to golden.

And despite your defense, a tanned white girl would have been the best casting pick. You admit that right?

So is this all happening because Cyborg is slated for DCEU and won't be on the Titans, or because they want to make him "not a token black dude" in Titans?

Erase the when.

No, my choice would've been an afro-brazillian stripper like Perez intended.

post cute black heroes please

She is an ayy with orange skin and iris-less green eyes. She's also a B-list superhero, do they have to make an internet controversy to advertise the character?

To translate from either frothing rage or stupidity;

The position is that death of the SJ Harris while working on Deadpool 2 was because Fox went with a rookie and unqualified stuntwoman under less than perfect safety conditions. The reasoning goes, then, that they went with Harris over a more experienced stunt rider was because they wanted to give the job to a black woman rather than using makeup or wardrobe to make a more experienced white stuntwoman appear black. To quote vanity fair;

>vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/08/deadpool-2-joi-harris-stunt-response
>“It absolutely could have been prevented,” the source said. “Joi was totally unqualified and never should have been there or put in that position . . . Joi had never been in a film or done any sort of stunt. She was just a girl from Brooklyn who liked to road race—which was not remotely similar to what was required for the shots. She didn’t have the experience or skills for the job they brought her in for.”

if she will be orange it will be perfect.
stop bithing around

Bumblebee is the cutest.

>The reasoning goes, then, that they went with Harris over a more experienced stunt rider was because they wanted to give the job to a black woman rather than using makeup or wardrobe to make a more experienced white stuntwoman appear black.
Bullshit. The stuntwoman was signifcantly darker than Beetz. So they would eventually alter her appearnce anyway.

Do you really think that will happen?
I don't believe it.

>why is the stupid alien the black one?

Rocafort is cheating

>orange skinned alien
>black

???