Ave Putin

What do actual Russians think of Putin? Has he helped his country, or hurt it? I love the guy due to his foreign escapades, but I don't know his actual track record as a leader or his popularity at home.

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They love him because the propaganda they live off of actually worked and warped their fucking brains.

So he's a bad leader? Why?

Well, He doesn't believe in a fair voting system. He intimidates and murders opposition. He stands for extreme measures to protect ideologies HE deems and decides beneficial for the society, not his people want. That's really my biggest beef.

If he wanted the world to remain some ultra conservative nation where men beat their wives and women are forced to endure marriages they hate, fine.If how wants men to dominate them and they stay at home and out of the workplace, fine. If he wants people to stop watching porn and find a wife fine. But to force those ideas on EVERYONE in the country is fucked up. The only people happy are those that follow his ideas. Everyone else is fucked with no chance of ever living in a country they want to be in. For those that love his ideas great but I don't want that shit so fuck him.

>What do actual Russians think of Putin?
He was awesome in his first two terms and Medvedev term. Now i'm tired of him. He is still 20 times better than Gorbachev and Boris-alcoholic but we need some fresh ideas.

He's helped his country more than Merkel, Rutte, Obama, or Bush did.

He's the only world leader with integritiy.

Why is race-mixing allowed in Russia?

Why can a Russian woman walk down the street holding hand with her boyfriend from Ghana?

>He's helped his country more than Merkel, Rutte, Obama, or Bush did.

Doesn't mean he's good. I'll admit Obama and Bush were fucking faggots.

I'll even get out of the way that out next president is going to be a sorry fucking faggot piece of fucking shit. Putin might be better than them but unfortunately It's the fact that he's just too far on the side of communism for my taste.

I'd rather have my freedom and be a fucked up nation.

>He's the only world leader with integritiy.

The integrity to race-mix?

As a Russian living abroad (study) pretty much this.
But he is also the best we have by such an incredibly large margin it's not even funny.

Yeah, you can't say he cares much about what's morally right and wrong, and he does take the communism a bit too far, but as a leader he pretty much BTFO everyone else.

It also seems like he's the only one who really knows what he's doing, forcing the rest to play along.

>What do actual Russians think of Putin?
It's very interesting that Solzhenitsyn gave his seal of approval.

"He enabled Russians to know what it's like to be 'Russians' again"

Thief. Appropriated to himself and his friends the entire property of the ussr plus the oil, gas and other minerals

>he is also the best we have by such an incredibly large margin
I've heard it said a few times that the alternative would be much worse.

>flat tax
>no inheritance tax
>oligarchs and bureocrats who made it in 90s mostly still in place
>everyone who matter in russia have their children/bank accounts/proprierty abroad

He's a man made of straw, United Russia is the worst thing that happened to russia in a while.

He dragged country out of a civil war in his first term and went full stability in his second. Medvedev was a mistake. Third term he is concentating on forieng politics trying to push party to do domestic politics. Party is shit though and makes mistake after mistake. Real problem with Putin is that we have no alternative to go with, I'd rather see him as military or foriegn minister than president. Also would vote him next elections unless he endorsess someone and that someone would be capeable enough.

>It's the fact that he's just too far on the side of communism for my taste.
You have no idea what communism means.

>He dragged country out of a civil war
+15

And it would.

if I were to compare Russia in the 90s and now, then the life has improved drastically since then.
He brought stability.
It's just that the rest of the government is more incompetent then those individuals who think running over CтoпХaм is a good idea.


>Putin paid me personally for this post

>what is chechnya
>what are 90s
Back to sosach with you.

Most Russians outside Moscow dislike his Unitarian bullshit. He basically bleeds Siberia, Urals and the Far East dry to feed Moscow and St Petersburg.

Freedom doesn't work everywhere. Some people have to controlled. I'm not saying that's fit for Russia but who knows? He's probably the best thing for Russia right now.

He has helped Russia tremendously but just like all great leaders, he fucked up at some point and there was no turning back.

>Putin paid me personally for this post
Kek

>what is sugar?
+15

Almost like Suddahm Hussein with Iraq. I hear that.

Something you would never see if country was run by Berezovskiy.

Kike puppet who puts other kikes in positions of power and floods country with the swarms of muslim shitskins.

зaeбцa пoшyтил)

He is a chatterbox and surely is not the "most powerful person in Russia". He is not taken seriously anymore even by mass public because he lied to much. Quite possible he is just a meme.

I almost think he did all this shit to try to prevent a nuclear war. Depends on what this re-opening of the email investigations does.

Pretty much. The Middle East, Africa, and most of Central and South America can't handle Democracy. It just turns to pure corruption, poverty, and welfare.

>to feed Moscow and St Petersburg
you mean London

Simplified understanding: He is a great international player + KGB skills but overall the only thing 1st world about Russia under him is the military. So fuck him, he's not the absolute worst that could happen but far from the best. Russia cannot prosper under the administration that he created. t. emigrant Russian

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We need to get rid of him and his regime, he's out of his mind.
t. not liberal

He is a corrupt jewcuck stopping nationalists from coming to power and nuking jewrusalem and mecca

Этo ты пoд cyмacшeдшeгo кocишь?

The only thing he did right - make oil money stay in Russia
But he did this in his first term, so don't know why do we still have him as presiden for like 16 years

Lived in Tyumen for 5 weeks for training on Natural Gas refinement. Everyone hates Putin and call him a Pidarast.

Yeah, maybe you have a point. I don't think there's much hope for Latin American countries. They're fucking savages. Earlier today I was passing by stores and seeing that the United States is very civilized compared to most other countries but we have animals and shit being slaughtered we are just fortunate enough to be able to make enough money to not have that shit all up in our faces. I think we can afford to distance ourselves from "real" violence and have lifestyles that almost make us feel like we are better. I think if every person in the United States had to butcher their own food they would be just as vicious and barbaric as other countries. If the general public were poorer they would be more hostile. I think if those two things combined than the United States wouldn't get along so well. Our fucked up government is corrupt but they still throw us enough scraps to keep us happy enough to not revolt.

He haz the hardest job on the planet earth. I admire him and what he did.

However russian people are shit this is why he cant do much. But he does enough and against all odds.

He is balancing on a sword sorta say. Doing sneaky way.

I dont like his style tho. He is to soft he should be more brutal and ruthless to his enemies.

So my choice is zhirinovsky but hes to old. Russia need someone like stalin or Ivan The Terrible.

Putin is good in shortterm of removing all the paperwarriors of the west via law and KGB archieves. But russia need someone realy tough and aggresive in foreign policy and more isolatory on domestic policies.

Thats my opinion, a russian in germany. Democracy doesnt work in russia.

>He is a great international player
Not really
Making himsel a scarecrow for the who;e world is not wery smart by any means

Do you know that USA supported destroying Russian democracy in 1993 by a bloody coup?

>>what is chechnya
>>what are 90s

source? On wikipedia preferably because my dumbass doesn't trust anything else.

But Yeltsin is happy drunken uncle and friend of freedom!

>So my choice is zhirinovsky
stop trolling
>Russia need someone like stalin or Ivan The Terrible
suck it cunt

Putinism is cleptocracy, Crimea and Donbass started when Putin lost all his rating. As you can see, Donbass was deceived and will be returned to Ukraine some years later.
Putin broke good relations with Ukrainians, betrayed Russian people in Central Asia and Caucasus for oil and gas, gave Russian taxes to Chechnya and other minorities regions. We have diversity and muslims-"also russians", so Aslanbeks fuck slavic girls, raid small business and have no responsibility in front of the law.

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I love Lilipootin threads.
*Praha-kun*

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis

Thats great news desu

Isnt his people made up of Aryans, Muslims and Mongols? Of course non of them will ever be pleased at once.
Which is probably a good thing considering the fucked up things muslims do.

Are Russians scared of Russian military?. I believe Russians a brutal motherfuckers and give zero fucks about the people under normal situations.

If the military is even MORE intense version of this attitude I'd be shitting my pants. I saw a video about 15 years ago of some Russian military guy drop kicking a recruit. Like severe chest damage kind of kick. Fuck that. American military is tough but we know they still give a shit about our health.

>Putin broke good relations with Ukrainians

I'd say that happened when the pro-Western coup went down. Putin didn't have any problem with Ukraine before then; even let them stiff him on their gas bills for years.

Moar of manlet monkey please!

Doesn't the US's aggressive foreign policy sort of force him in to that position?

i got one

Russian here, I would agree.

It's never good to have one leader in power too long because it always hurts country in long run. I don't think he will run in 2018 though, but then again he's really only the good leader left.

He's still have been a positive force for Russia overall though

Forbes lists him as the most powerful man in the world (because of his position and personal wealth)

>Stiff
You mean force them to pay far more for the gas than the countries down the stream?

Putin has cuckspergers
1)he made revision of Holohoax a crime punishable by prison sentence
2)advocating anti-communist cause in WWII will land you in prison
3)pointing out crimes of Red Army will lend you in prison
4)inflammation of ethnic and religious hatred will lend you in jail. Hate speech laws essentially. Countless nationalists are doing time for it
5)let construction of huge fucking mosques and ordered to give mosque in Chechen Republic #2 in government sponsored "National Symbols of Russia" election
6)keeps open border policy with Central Asia, Russian citizenship can be bought for 30,000-50,000 rubles. 9 million of fucking illegals in Russia
7)Called the real nationalists "morons or provocateurs"
8)everything is corrupt beyond belief In a any state related project, at least 80% of budget would be stolen
9)let in 2-5 million chinks
1),2),3) - Federal Law 80
4) - paragraph 282 of the Criminal Law
Maksim Marcinkiewicz(jailed twice for "hate speech" alone) and Movement Against Illegal Immigration activists are good example
5) 10russia.ru
6) nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/russia-the-worlds-second-largest-immigration-haven-11053
7) Direct Line with President on "Channel 1" 18 Dec 2003
8) countless exposed info by various people (Google RosPil)
9)Don't forget about the chinks, Russia is becoming very multicultural, and it must because otherwise it will not survive.

abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=82969
>The Chinese are invading Russia — not with tanks, but with suitcases.
>Alexander Shaikin, in charge of controlling the Russian-Chinese border, said on June 29 that 1.5 million people from China have illegally entered the Russian Far East over the past 18 months.
Trump would be in prison in Russia

I'm not a shitslav (thank God) but can somebody tell me why westerners like this faggot so much? Just because he's not feminine? He's not against race mixing and he's not racially conscious. Why the fuck does Sup Forums like him?

>Putinism is cleptocracy, Crimea and Donbass started when Putin lost all his rating.
No you idiot. He took it because ukros didnt pay their depts

google dedovshina

russian military doesnt give a flying fuck about its recruits
generally the impression i have is russian state doesnt give a shit about its population, which is dieing in droves from alcoholism and various other degeneracies, and kids growing up without parents rasied by a mother and a grandmother

i guess thats the sterotype
its just seems like a brutal country to me
and i come from balkan russia lel

He is the best thing that happened to Russia in the last 200 years.

I skimmed through real quick because I'm retarded. So basically Boris Yeltsin basically tried to turn their "democracy/socialist/communist" party into like a dictatorship ran by him?.

>He's not literally hitler
>Why do you like him?????
Are you autistic

>force them to pay

That's implying that they actually paid. I remember the howls of outrage after the coup that Putin was actually going to make them pay for the gas they used.

Rather like Georgia and their "hey, let's invade Ossetia, I'm sure the US will have our back!" plan back in 2008, Ukraine brought everything on themselves. And for what? In terms of the Ukrainian people, nothing. I'm sure the politicians got fat stacks out of it, though.

Yeah they forced Putin to act the way he did.

>source
Are you from Mars? There was a bloody coup in 1993 and USA backed it. After the coup they made new constitution with irrelevant parliament. But the main point is that coup opened road for a oligarch privatization. As a result now 45% of Russian economy is owned by Euro and Brits cunts, and another 45% by ex-commie crooks who are now leaving in London. If this is not a neo-colonialism then what is?

you came from literal Orthodox Turkey

>putin
>gommunism

Murrican education everyone!

he's popular, but it won't last. their economy is going down the clogged shitter

because he makes (((finns))) like you butthurt

Well, he might as well vote for Zhirinovskiy - all major parties like КПPФ, ЛДПP and others are pocket parties for EдPo - they are meant to collect all the "undecided" votes and pass them to the leading party.
Zhirinovskiy acts as a lightning rod for all "Deport all immigrants" and other revolutionary faggots. Yeah, he is a clown, but a professional one.

Kadyrov stabilizes the whole region. Sure, he acts (and in fact is) a local king of the whole area - but he is a pocket king. Just like any king - he just won't let any other cumdumpster (i.e. ISIS or whatever) get in and spread roots. This means that even if you are suspected to be anything other than sufi - you are getting raped, quite literally.
There's been stories circling around that the exact moment rumor spreads that you are wahhabi - you get arrested and receive a "rozebud" at the local police station - you get a water hose inserted into your anus, then a barbed wire is getting inserted inside the hose, then hose is removed and barbwire is quicky pulled out.

That's basicly the only thing that they understand - brute force and humiliation. As far as I'm concerned Europe already tried "talking" with refugees. That worked out well.

So nothing wrong with building more mosques. As long as they stay under Kadyrov's control - it's all fine.

He helped our country but then hurt it and sold us out to oligarhs. Most of our people can't see it because of propaganda. We need Dijkstra, and we have Radovid.

Weren't you all recalled?

Putin is merely the face of a much larger oligarch military industrial complex. Even if Putin were to be ousted, we'd get a replacement leader with more or less the same domestic and foreign policies.

I'm not even sure if true change in Moscow is feasible. Their entire history is nothing but kleptocrats and monsters for leaders.

>Putin broke good relations with Ukrainians
To be fair the initiative has been always on Ukro-side. They are stupid cunts. But Putin is doing everything to keep Ukraine on float.

>ITT: A cuck praising a communist cuck, asking what brainwashed shills for Russiastan think of their failure dictator while either of spring or back talking actual redpilled Russians telling you he is the worst thing since Stalin
I hate you

But first Putin would have to vouch for him and a nasty war would have to end by genocide of a certain population hated by the russian population. Over and over again.

russia is ran by ex-kgb controlling the oligarchs
and ukraine is that without the (moderating) influence of the oligarchs
its a bigger shithole than russia and both sides need this sort of shit to distract from the fact they are africa-tier and could be doing 10 times better if it werent for their political class

yah he is fairly liberal actually. there is hardly any idelogical differences.
i honestly dont get why us and russia need to be in conflict -- does putin need to be at the head of a gay pride parade to be accepted by the west?

After reading that post I felt the need to check if even Hitler had opposition that thought he was being too soft with the jews...

>sold us out to oligarhs

But he put oligarchs in prison, confiscated their wealth, forced them out of the country, banished them to the Russian Far East or killed them. How'd he sell you out to them?

I'm curious about what choices he has.

He is not as good as he might have been in inner policy.

He saved rushka-porashka from a collapse, but in doing so stole its last chance of reforming and developing. Now it's forever a gas station that will spend all of its profit on fending off free-loaders who would like to refuel for free.

He did. Most of the NSDAP was enraged with his soft stance on 1/2 and 1/4 kikes.

that's because all Russian oil money are in London in another euro-fag places. Moscow is just a transit point. So shut up and listen to insider.

Sure they are brutal.
Just need a right tool to sort things out.

No one like putin in russia. It is all a lie. Who interested in politics there are 100% do not like putin and who tell you he like just take salary for it.

All putin support paid by government.

Putin destroyed all economy of Russia and if oil price will be like 20-30$ per barrel for year or more he just start ww3 trying hide his fail.

I don't understand your question. Can you please explain?

not the ones who are quiet or loyal to him like abramovich

>i honestly dont get why us and russia need to be in conflict

I will admit that I think a lot of it has to do with our government overstepping boundaries.

I told my family I don't want to vote for any of these faggots because they're going to continue fucking shit up. I say both these fuckers are going to tear shit up and when they do anyone who voted for them can say they helped cause it. I'm not voting for any of these motherfuckers and if it was up to me nobody would vote then a real message would seriously be made.

>inb4 that won't happen

A couple years ago Russia and US were cool and I think that was pretty good.

This is 100% legit. i am bein paid to post pro Putin retorics there.
t. Kremlin pro.

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>He's helped his country
Nice try shill
Putin has fucked hid country up the ass
One of the largest and most untapped nation overloading with natural resources and instead of pursuing them to make his nation great he's made it a communist shithole that relies solely on its oil production and military complex to stimulate it's economy
He's worse that Gorbachev and Khrushchev combined since unlike them he isn't restricted by USSR politics in the way either of them were and he's so feared by the rest of the government that they wouldn't dare go against anything he did short of civil war