After he comes back (search your hearts, you know it's going to happen)...

After he comes back (search your hearts, you know it's going to happen), who will be the next stop on the DC Apology tour?

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Joe Quesada.

Isn't he and Quesada the only two left? Dixon, Rucka, and Robinson all came back,

There have to be others like Isabella and Priest who didn't feel specifically wronged but needed extra effort to be brought back, right?

Please god no. He already ruined Daredevil I don't want him ruining DC characters too.

And Soule only barely managed to bring DD back up

DC whipped the dogfucker into shape, maybe they could do the same with Waid.

There's PAD, Fialkov, and JH Williams off the top of my head.

Does Soule still have Matt as an atheist?

I liked his run on Daredevil. It's a lot better than the post reboot stories.

You mean the guy who turned Matt into an atheist fixed him?

Alan Moore
I wish.

The fact that Alan Moore wrote a 1 million page book makes me glad he left comics. He is a great writer, but up his own butt. Doesn't translate well when you write comics especially in the super hero genre.

>DC feels pity for Spencer and gives him a book.

Kind of.
Everything else was set back into order

>stick him on backups in Action Comics like in the good old days

Hell no, Quesada burned his bridges pretty badly.

I think Waid is just done. His last years at DC were bad too even before editorial fucking with him.

Give him a Rogues book.

He needs to be contained- and especially kept away from LOSH.

Waid's been a lost cause since Man of Steel came out. There's no fixing that.

>PAD
DC just stopped hiring him.

>Threeboot literally only worked as a joke foil to the two real LoSHs in Lo3W

Sad!

More like a Plastic Man book.

And guess who will be writing Young Justice Rebirth

John Byrne.

hahaha just kidding!

I couldn't get through threeboot. At first I thought it might turn around, but it just got worse.

Basically the only thing he did right was Nura, but it's like he realized that and then tried to correct for it with terribleness.

What the fuck happened to Byrne?

Old age amplified his autism and having the internet as a place to shitpost publically made it easy to burn his bridges for good.

Besides the rampant pedo and ephebophilia?

He was never good to begin with.

I like his work in X-Men, but I vastly prefer Cockrum.

You tell me, user.

Ironic since he wrote the best superhero comic.

someone give me some dirt on John Bryne. How and why did he burn his bridges and stuff?

anyone?

No. Dude is not really a good writer anymore.

Didn't they make things up with him, only to burn it again? I remember Bryne being on Action Comics back in like 05 or so.

It's not hard to see why someone like him would burn bridges with anyone.

en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_Byrne
Just read this.

Alan Moore didn't write Kingdom Come.

I have no idea what you might be speaking about user! Nothing weird here at all!
Byrne rebooted Doom Patrol right before infinite crisis and mangled it so hard (Beast Boy still existed in the Teen Titans but never was connected to the DP because of Byrne) that Johns retconned the entire run when Superboy-Prime hit that wall

>Vaginascope.jpg

holy shit look at this stupidity

LoSH

Is there any hope for LoSH ?

Kingdom Come sure is shit ain't the best superhero comic.

It has great art, a complex and nuanced story, realistic Batman, and a properly reverent and respectful presentation of the best hero, Superman.

And?

You don't recognize greatness; I'm sad for you.

Wont happen, he's lost the magic

You didn't say it has a great story though. And realistic Batman does not in anyway improve the quality of the story in any way.

Bro he shit-talked Kirby to his face.

Matt stopped believing in God after death of Karen. It was stated like 15 years ago in Bendis run.

With Marvel or DC?

With Marvel, he had a fit over Quesada cancelling his X-Men: The Hidden Years comic and refused to do any more work for Marvel as long as Quesada and Jemas worked there.

With DC, at the time Superman Returns was gradually releasing info about the movie (like for instance the rumor that Lois' kid is actually Superman's), he was pissed off at it and banned all discussion about the film on his board. Then when the solicitations for the Superman Returns prequel comics were released, everyone noticed Byrne's name on the Krypton prequel and wondered what was going on since Byrne was adamant about his hatred. Byrne initially said that his project was basically based on the 1978 film (which was true; if you read the Krypton prequel it was basically a recap of the destruction of Krypton and Kal-El's arrival on Earth from that film) and then he suddenly announced that he was leaving the project (I think claiming that he was misled on what the project was). This caused problems because it meant they needed to get another artist to do it in a short amount of time. It's probably no coincidence after that that Byrne didn't get many other jobs at DC, then it dried up and he went over to IDW and also did commissions.

Which issue?

No one here reads comics. Why would you expect them to remember that?

Yes he did.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight_of_the_Superheroes

Marz, Kesel, Messner-Loebs

Loeb

>Kingdom Come
>good

>years of mindless intense hatred and dumb shit flinging from Waid to DC
>still willing to apologize to this washed up fool
DC Comics as in Dumb Cucks Comics

>a complex and nuanced story
Surely you jest

isn't
>REEEEEEEEEEEE Cable and comics in general are popular with kids for once
a complex and nuanced tale?

Millar promised a gamechanging story for either DC or Marvel by the end of the year, so it will be announced in this month's solicitations

What is Marz doing these days? I haven't read anything of his since Witchblade stopped. and his Witchblade is some of the best action comics made IMHO

>Dingdong Cum
>good

I'm glad someone got it.

last time he wrote something was A convergence tie in for Leather jacket superboy

I read that as Miller at first. Mild interest to no interest- instantly.

>millar

oh boy

>Fialkov,
he's just gone entirely

It is a great story though. It shows how superheroes, as heroes, would attempt to reign in a world where their culture became ignorant of their values and moral boundaries. And because they're heroes, they acknowledge the weight of their mistakes in the end and are able to open the door to a brighter future after a near apocalyptic happening had almost occurred.

At any rate it's better than any Alan Moore book because it recognizes superheroes as extraordinary personalities instead of just making everyone a fuckup schmuck to drive home "they're still only human gaiz"

>this thread
>retards trying to convince everyone that KC and Waid Flash sucked now despite being board favorites for years

Newfags need to kill themselves

Was there any screwing around with Messner-Loebs?

I'm glad someone gets it. Mark Waid is a legendary writer and nothing these retards say is going to change that. Seethe fags, seethe!

Kingdom Come is trash, no one would care about it without Ross' work.

Kingdom Come is just a hack ripoff of Alan Moore's work regardless.

Wrong bitch

>seeth
Meme defense deployed.

No one mentioned Flash before you.

His Flash is fine capeshit but it is still capeshit and kind of overrated. If The Return of Barry Allen is your standout story for an entire franchise then you're grasping at straws.

You are seething.

Not really, Terminal velocity is a fantastic story, and the one offs are great. Plus it had at least decent long term plotting.

Yeah, a writer I've never liked is self-destructing, boy am I mad.

You're just a contrarian bitch.

maybe, not a single work he's done has been reprinted yet going through like homelessness and meth addiction

>meth addiction
Jeez, Bill. I felt pity for you when you lost your house, but now it's impossible.

Seething.

Last year DC reprinted Deodato's Wonder Woman run, so that includes The Contest and the Challenge of Artemis right there.

What the fuck are you talking about? Waid used to be divisive back in late 2000s as well. But back then it was for his bland style of writing rather than people yelling SJW.

His FF was pretty well-received, aside from his autistic fit over Doom being noble. A bunch of people got mad when he was fired from the title, not for sales reasons, but because Marvel wanted to synergize it with movie in development that went nowhere that treated it as a family comedy.

There is not a single Flash story that is more than slightly above average. Like I said, at best they're kind of overperforming capeshit.

When did that happen? Byrne was one of the people who turned opinion of Kirby around, he's always been one of his most ardent fans.

>In 1981, Jack Kirby went public about feeling he had been deprived of creator credit and money while co-creating the Marvel Universe. John Byrne, who was originally a fan of Jack Kirby and made alot of money utilizing and penciling characters Jack had co-created, wrote an editorial declaring himself proud to be a “company man,” and argued that creators should “live within the rules while they’re around.” John Byrne wrote that Jack knew the deal and had no rights. In response to John Byrne, Jack Kirby made Destroyer Duck 4, 1983 with Steve Gerber depicted John Byrne as “Cogburn,” a spineless company man with no genitals and all ego.
Byrne's response to that was turning the character meant to represent Kirby's wife into a mind-controlled porn star.

Well damn. What a schmuck.

This was what Kirby designed and drew, which was supposed to be Byrne. A Dickless and Spineless company man

>Byrne eventually got cucked by Marvel
Oh the irony.

Didn't Kirby kinda do the same thing with Roy Thomas?

He famously did it to Stan Lee, at least.

I know that Funky Flashman was Stan Lee but I thought that an user said that Roy Thomas was basically Flashman's toady and yes-man.