FUCK EY, ABC Tracking poll went from +12 Clinton

to +3 Clinton within 4 days ... and that was BEFORE the email hack leaked.

Either that poll was fucking flawed from the beginning, or Trump is surging 9 percent.

There was 10 point jump for Trump in the 4 way race.

that abc poll is down to 2 now.

oh, nm, that was the 4 way

Total bullshit polls floated by the north korean US media

The fact that they had Hillary winning by 10+ is enough of a reason to just drop the poll completely.

So which is it faggots? Are the polls rigged or not?

They are rigged, but they're going to drop down to a more realistic view of things as we get closer to the election to allow polling companies and new networks to salvage their reputations.

It's a rhetorical question, surges like that don't happen organically, usually.

They fucking are 'rigged' faggot, now they are starting to wake up to reality and realize they are dick-licking little cumguzzlers just like you.

Rigged.
The fact that polls are changing this much only means one thing.. Democrats (which they are oversampling by 10-20%) are jumping the hilldog ship for Trump.. or independent voting/not voting.

It;s the game the kike media plays. They want to keep the leftcucks from voting 3rd party or not showing up at all. They also want to demoralise and blackpill Trump supporters. When the race tightens they launch massive coordinated attacks and fer mongering to get more shillary supporters out to vote.

They aren't "rigged", just inaccurate. Gallup pulled out of presidential election polling completely because they concluded there is currently no accurate way to poll for a national election.

LOL LOSING FOUR POINTS A DAY

>polls are legit only when they are in our favor

And they have to oversample democrats by wide margins to even get to +3

media is covering it's ass

>tfw too intelligent to believe in poles

it's not that amazing. Say you have a 4 point margin of error; honestly it's probably been more uncertain this year. There's been a bit of tightening, but it's not the wild swing that taking a single poll out of context would imply, any more than looking at the old poll actually meant hillary was up 13 points.

The bad new is is IBD Tipp (most accurate) is now SHitler +5

>Trump is losing
Polls don't matter, everything is rigged

>Trump is winning
Look at these polls, they prove Trump is crushing

Trips of truth. Trump seems to be plummeting in IBD while surging in every other poll. It's fucking weird because IBD had the same result as LA times like a week ago.

This.

I woundn't be surprised if they were auctioning good poll numbesr based on network ad buys.

Except next time, only facebook and twitter will have the power to auction poll results.

Bye bye MSM.

When a +12 D sample is used and trump is winning, it's a huge deal

>tfw to intelligant too spell write

It's because IBD was the only one who had trump up, so they put in calls to fix it. Wouldn't be surprised if you look at the cross tabs and the democrat oversampling increases with her lead.

IBD even said in its report that it's more in line with the RCP average, which shows they were worried that their reputation among the chattering classes was going down.

What is the point of that?

Read their latest methodology, they'ved rigged it.
Hillary lead moderates by 15 last week and this week they doubled to 30.

Then you look at Trump and he lost half of all his support with every group while Hillary doubled hers for no reason within a few days. Trump lost moderates by 30 but lead independents by 7. It doesn't make sense.

>trusting any of this shit

The polls before our last general election were an absolute farce.

Wouldn't surprise me if Trump has been ahead all this time.

RARE

Trump's momentum is going to surge hugely, a little early, but still solid. They've inflated polls for the past 2 weeks by like +10%. He's going to see a magnificent bump, which will be attributed to the FBI's reopening.

>Gallup pulled out of presidential election polling completely
Really? I didn't know that.

SO I GUESS THATS WHY THEY CALL IT THE BLUES

Those liberal shithole polls are a joke. 10% swing in less than a week tells me they were fake from the start. They're only covering their asses now so that they won't look like fools when Trump wins.

the 12 point difference is definitely bullshit

That's why you never see a Gallup poll about Hillary vs Trump

we don't trust them but watching their polls slide this hard from one extreme to the other in less than a week is fucking retarded

Fuck, you're right. That's actually good, that means nobody really knows who these "likely voters" are.

They're rigged.

Media makes money off ads from presidential campaigns. If they put the polls to be be neck-and-neck, they can ideally force the campaigns to spend more money because they feel pressured to. They're squeezing as much money out of Clinton by making it "all tied up". It's the exact story they played in 2012 by claiming it was all tied up 2 weeks before the election, when everyone really knew Romney was down 5-6 points.

Non-academic polling data will be unreliable until the end of the election.

>Give Clinton +12 on election day.
>Trump wins.
>Nobody takes your polling seriously.
>Some people pay YUGE money for statistical research.
>Lose money because your polls were ridiculously scewed and didn't reflect close to reality.

Or, you can adjust your polls as election day approaches, save face, and keep making money.

Discourages trump voters. Here's how it works:

>Say Trump's actual support is 55% nationally
>The (((polls))) manipulate results to give the appearance of say 40% support in a 4 way vote with Clinton at 45%
>Doing this over the course of a year chips away at the moral of Trump's soft support.
>Keep doing this until the soft support turns into an unlikely voter as the election gets closer.
>New poll numbers are more accurate and give trump a bump but now he has actually lost a sizeable portion of his base.

That's my theory anyways.

They have to bring the polls closer to reality before the election or risk losing all credibility in future polls.

Imagine having Hillary at +12 and Trump wins in a landslide

So she's still winning? Wow, CTR BTFO! I'm sure her numbers won't rebound after this controversy blows over in a few days.