Can anyone give me a logical reason why raising the minimum wage is a good idea?

Can anyone give me a logical reason why raising the minimum wage is a good idea?

Protip: you can't

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aw, thought this was one of those videos where the gorilla mama goes ballistic and beats the shit out of the chimp baby

Because muh poor people muh living wage muh Seattle. Krugman is the only economist you need.

>wages rise
>jobs lost because they're no longer economically viable
>or prices rise to compensate for the additional cost of employment and the new purchasing power
>either way the only thing achieved is a further squeezed middle class

I continue to be blown away that we refuse to address the actual problem

>Worked minimum wage for years while on food stamps
>Kept a roof over my head and the lights on
>Didn't buy vidya for years, used what I already had, borrowed, or pirated
>Didn't eat steak every other night
>Bought plenty of canned food, bulk meat, grew my own veggies and herbs on my porch
>Eventually got a good office job, got into uni, and are now getting grants and shit on top of making a few thousand a month
>Still live very frugally, not eating ramen noodles every day frugal but drive a decent car and only upgraded my home within my means just in case shit hits the fan
>mfw all these people I'm supposedly the same generation as despite being close to 30 all think they deserve new iPhones every six months, luxury apartments and cars, and $50,000 a year for showing up to their McJob they can't even be bothered to work nights and weekends on

Raising the minimum wage is good, by increasing the cost of labor at home, foreign products and services become more attractive
reducing America's ability to compete is essential

she works 16 hours a week or something. I dont want to watch this video again but thats ridiculous

She has a nicer apartment than me.

That's what they don't tell you: she get's $7.50/hour as a wage, plus:

>Free housing via Section 8
>Free healthcare for her and her child via Medicaid
>Foodstamps of $200/month or more

Add all that up, and she's basically making the equivalent of 30k/year, for working at McDonald's, as a nigger, with no education.

Fuck her and fuck that video.

The video makes me wonder if our economic difficulties are partially a result of social collapse. You're not supposed to be a single mother. Without a kid she'd have the time and freedom and choice to invest in herself and achieve. I don't know a single person over 25 without kids who is struggling. Things can be a little "tight" but there's no struggle.

>Safiyyah Cotton
>Cotton

maybe it will force businesses to automate all of the shitty jobs. and then we can finally euthanize all the "unwanted" cause we don't need them anymore

>working nights and weekends for a measly $50k

Wew lad

Here is Brazil it's a disaster, everyone is getting unemployed because of the crisis and the minimum wage being about 1k bananas.

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the kikes can only bleed so much white people money to niggers via the government treasury before they have to start compelling private employers

Niggers can't manage money. You can eat for $2 a day. Being homeless isn't that bad short-term if you know what you're doing.

give me a logical reason why i shouldnt berry my dick so deep in that black booty that who ever got it out would be King Arthur

Quick question

Why did she have a kid while making a fast food salary?

Would you rather have the poor paid by private employers or your tax money via welfare?

It's racist to suggest that blacks should have to make good decisions.

Because having a partner to raise a child is a choice now.

BUT FRESH FOOD IS CHEAPER THAN FROZEN FOOD YOU FAT DUMB NIGGER WHALE

>BUYS MCCAIN OVERPRICED POTATOES INSTEAD OF JUST NORMAL FUCKING POTATOES AND COMPLAINS ABOUT PRICES

FUCK YOU AND FUCK NIGGERS AND FUCK THE KEK ENABLER THAT FILMED YOUR FATASS YOU WHORE

REEEEEEEEEE

Neither.

Wages rise, and many people get a comfortable living for the first time in their life. Corporations replace people with machines and most jobs are lost. This ushers in the next great depression. The proletariat, having been exposed to what a decent standard of living is like, revolts against their corporatist overlords and seizes the means of production.

Playing six dimension jump rope here

have fun with raising the monkey

Neither, let Darwinism take over.

omg how racist much

>cant even recognize the meme
kys

Because she was able to get at least 9 months off and still get a regular paycheck. Maybe even more time if she claims to have had an injury on the job. Her employer wouldn't be able to do jack shit to her and she gets away with it.


I know how it works because I'm black and know people who actually do this. It is fucking sad really.

>Getting paid to be a NEET with a job

>having a kid is the same thing as buying a tv and getting a tattoo
i cant even....

Raising the minimum wage is a good thing, if businesses can afford to do so.

As it stands, 15 dollars an hour would cut workforce worse than NAFTA.

Gotta make human labor cheaper in US than in other countries in order to raise minimum wage without layoffs.

so you're a wage-slave with no room to falter or risk being homeless or going hungry for most of your life, and you think that's a good thing?

someone explain to me what is argument for minimum wage liberals have

this will only harm low skill workers cause why would I pay 15 for a job a robot can do better and cheaper?

They think children are like exotic pets you can do whatever to. Mutilate it however. It's a pet baby to them.

>american
>'uni'
Kill yourself.

The argument is it hasn't caught up with inflation so the minimum wage is currently much lower effective buying power than when it was originally set

Because there was a father, except being a dindu he immediately tried to rob a store or something and got locked up.

So instead of being a lazy fat hambeast she had to get actually get a job giving burgers to other lazy fat hambeasts.

Liberals pretend they're caring for niggers while demonizing whites and corporations, and niggers are retarded to go along with it.

Part of it is playing into a bigger, anti-white, bigger government narrative.

They also pull the "If you work X hours, you should be able to afford Y", ignoring that the job that they do is not worth more and/or illegal spics are pressing down wages.

>they can't even be bothered to work nights and weekends on

I was with you until this retarded bullshit.

Implying people should be ready and willing to work shit hours is stupid, and you should feel stupid for saying it.

Not an argument. She gets $240/2 weeks, this works out to around 3 hours a day if she works 21 days/week.
If you work for $7.25, 21 days a month, 8 hrs a day, you earn $1218/month. That's a completely liveable wage, even without food stamps.
° $60/month: food
° $400/month: apartment
° $100/month: transport
° $200/month: bills
Remaining: $500.

Almost all jobs will be replaced with robots. Minimum wage is a stop gap. Eventually you'll have a fully self-driving and manufactured automotive industry, fast food will be grown automatically in labs and cooked by machines, and even doctors will be replaced with Watson. If you're concerned about people being replaced by machines its not going to be caused by minimum wage. Its already cheaper to do that, why do you think ATMs exist?

>$400/month: apartment
Almost nowhere in America has rent this cheap.
>$60/month: food
Now you're just trolling.

>60$ a month
That's not realistic. That per week is.

>Bitch about not having luxuries
>No unwilling to put in extra hours for extra money
Pick one

Sour grapes. Your ancestors would look onto you with disappointment.

>Can't get a job
>Get a job requiring weekend work at minimum
>"fucking wage slave, only 50k?

If you don't know how to live on nothing you don't know how to live.

>Can anyone give me a logical reason why raising the minimum wage is a good idea?

It creates an exploitable class of people who are entirely dependent on the state, likely stupid, and with little regard for the law.

It essentially creates a riot anywhere you like so long as there's enough unemployed black people, which is a useful tool if you can wield it.

good b8 almost made me mad

I make way more than enough. Doesn't mean I have to be all "fuck you got mine" about people struggling to get by

>It creates an exploitable class of people who are entirely dependent on the state

Welfare already exists.

One does not necessitate the other. I don't need or want to give up the best parts of my week to my employer, but I also don't need/want more than I currently have. Live cheaply, not in poverty.

Automatic stabilizer you fucking dipshit.

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Well, beats barely having enough to eat, doesn't it, dipshit?

The majority of your economy is people spending money on useless shit. People having more money to spend on useless shit = better economy.

Where is the father ?

Liberals have been conditioned to never take responsibility for their actions or prepare for their future. They refuse to close their legs and demand that the state take care of them.

Liberals created this problem for a reason, it keeps them dependent on them.

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I'm not comparing it to not working mohammed, I'm comparing it to working on a higher minimum wage

$120 for food then, my mistake. But this includes some luxuries. You could decrease it to by eating only oil+flour+protein
leannebrown.com/good-and-cheap.pdf
Housing: $0, sleep in car
Gym: $20 (for shower)

>assuming we need one standard wage across the country.

Minimum wages should be within economic regions- NYC should have a higher minimum wage than Buttfuck Missouri.

She only works 32 hours bi-weekly, if you raised it to 15 dollars an hour it would raise to 480 dollars every two weeks. If she just got a normal 40 hour work week she would get more money than if minimum wage was doubled for her.

Fucking lazy ass bitch.

I want to increase unemployment and therefore increase dependency on the government so that these newly and permanently vote for the left-wing party.

Inflation? Why have the wages of the people not kept up whereas they have, and then some, for the 1%? There is no possible defense of the increasing disparity in wealth. I would get no benefit from increasing the minimum wage to 15$ but in theory, my wage should be higher if it kept up with inflation too and that'd be the case for every pollack as well (unless you're NEET scum). Fuck the race war, we need a class war now.

A minimum wage is an okay thing. But the clue is in the name.
>minimal
When you make minimum wage, it should be clear what that means. It means your boss would pay you less if he could except the government has forced him to inflate the value of your labor and the task you're performing. It means you labor isn't competitive in the market place and you're "dead weight" economically. You're a net negative.

$400 a month might get you a room in somebody's house or apartment. Figure at least $500 a month for food. Then add $100 for car insurance and another $100 for a cell phone. BTW, that $1,218 is gross earnings. After deductions the pay would be around $950. Nobody, not even a single person, could survive on that unless you live in your car.

>having kids when you're not financially stable and your husband isn't a stable provider

Why?

The only people who want minimum wage raised are niggers too stupid to get a raise or understand the consequences of raising it.

>tfw got a $2 raise at my first job within two months just by being on time and hard working

There's no excuse for being minimum wage besides being stupid, lazy, or both

Because when you raise the prices on work, everything else goes up and we're stuck in the same situation just a bigger number.

That's a retarded argument
You are gonna get dirty again why you bath? You're going to die one day anyway why don't you just kill yourself now?
And no machines haven't replaced people in many jobs cause they not cheaper yet otherwise the would've replace them already (duh)

And if this isn't enough for you cuck how about the raising prices and increased unemployment? that's what raising minimum wage does

its a subjective view point. Those who genuinely struggle need assistance. Those who spend their money wastefully are not struggling, regardless of how much you make.

This new class will think the white mans out to get them after the minimum wage is increased and their replaced with a koisk.

Think angrier, more violent, welfare class.

because /niggers/. Liberals have made it to that nignogs who pop out kids get more money every month.

>worked a part time job in college
>coal burner worked there, she was 27
>coal burner had an 11 year old daughter that she raised herself of course
>constantly brags about her tax returns and how her daughter has thousands in medical bills that "i ain't gotta pay"

Stupid cunt made me so mad. We're burning money to help retards be retards.

We should give an increase it minimum wage. It will pacify the slave class for a while and keep them from rioting for a few years. Not that it really matters if they riot, they only hurt their own communities when they do. Of course we all know that in the end, the employers, the ruling class will do something to keep their profits the same. Probably firing a bunch of people. Or just putting cheaper shit in their products. It really doesn't matter. At the end of the day the slave class will always be the slave class, and the ruling class will always be the ruling class, and the gap between them will never close. An increase would just be a nice gesture to quell dissent.

>everything else goes up

Not true.

Anything you import or sell on a global market will not likely increase in price.

ie. if you suddenly declare all oil workers must be paid 60 dollars an hour in Texas the price of Oil might flutter up a bit eventually due to the lower supply but it will not null the increase in wages as supply from other areas will increase to compensate.

>Sleeping in car
That's only a possibility if you aren't liable to get fucked by anti-vagrancy laws.

maybe this is just the natural order of things. poverty isn't new, and with each new bump in quality of life and technology or even war and conflict, there are those who are going to be able to hang and those who get left behind. I mean, raise the minimum wage all you want, but there's going to be thousands of Americans where that's not going to do anything for them. You're going to speed up singularity before you help those people out.

>revolts against their corporatist overlords and seizes the means of production.
that actually doesn't happen

Depends on what you're importing/exporting. I would imagine most goods are handled by min. wage workers at some point

blacks rarely have the father in the picture. Some of the time theyre in prison, usually the father is just unemployed or makes money under the table selling drugs so they cant get child support or anything

All of this is basic maths. This is an essential skill poor, stupid people lack.

They should not be given money. They should not be allowed to have or make children. If you go on benefits you should surrender the rights that allowed you to fuck up so badly and become a burden on everyone else. This is why convents, monasteries, farming communes and slavery existed throughout history in disparate areas of the world completely unconnected to each other.

The burdens of a tribe are not to be lavished with the spoils of the hunt, and they are not to be exiled. In sensible societies they are made to pull their weight by diminishing their destructive agency.

>Bring
>Back
>Slavery

>Rare

Hello friend

There is a perfect price for the labor our workers sell their labor at that will collectively bring in the most revenue. Without mechanics to set the price at the perfect price, our workers have to out bid each other when they sell their labor which causes them to sell their labor at price well below the perfect price. This means at the price many laborer markets set the price at, many workers are getting something like a 40% decrease in income for only a 10% increase in employment.

What society needs to do is set up a labor monopoly and set the price for labor in every labor market to the perfect price. In economics, industries that are monopolized bring in more revenue by selling products and services, of which labor is equivalent to, at a higher price. Setting a minimum wage is one method, unionization is another.

>feeding niggers
People who think that stuff is ok should off themselves

Most poor people waste their incomes. Cigarettes, drugs, needlessly expensive electronics.

Indeed not.

plancksconstant.org/blog1/2013/09/there_should_be_no_minimum_wage.html

Raising min. wage will force retail stores Walmart, McDonald's to replace people with machines. Many more people on welfare. Welfare becomes unsustainable until it collapses. People on welfare flee the U.S. to Canada or Mexico.

>I'm too stupid to get a raise and dumb enough to get knocked up
>pls provide for my society
>pls print moar money gubmint

Makes no difference.

As a singular country you cannot decide prices on the global market unless you control the entire supply. If it costs you more to get your grain to market nobody in China gives a fuck they will buy from Canadians or Aussies before they will eat a price increase.

Good bait made me mad.

>$500 for food
No, people can live off food stamps without starving to death. They're at $261 a month, and you can eat cheaper than that.
>$100 car insurance
Get a less valuable car. Hey, didn't I include this under transport?
>$100 cell phone
You don't need one, and you sure don't need to pay $50 for the contract. $15 for the phone, 1¢/minute prepaid.
I refuse to believe that you can't rent a couch in a bad part of town for $400/month.

true, there's always someone else who they can buy from

>bottom of the barrel poor in America
>still lives in basically a two story mansion

>People on welfare flee the U.S. to Canada or Mexico.

sounds great.

>Republitards try to stop sex education
>retard with no education has child with no means to pay for said child
>retard goes on welfare
>republitards complain about welfare spending

Give them all the abortions and pills they need. Much cheaper then welfare.

But you were talking about sleeping in your car

Yes, I don't know enough about american laws.

this lol
>opening shot shows a staircase in her residence
she ain't that poor

A huge part of the problem is no one wants to accept responsibility for their choices. If you want to spend your late teens and early 20's doing stupid shit, have a kid young, and not get a decent job, that's your fault, not mine.

Not very Rare but h-Hi

crazy how she is fat. Cheap carbs

One can only dream.

>People on welfare flee the U.S. to Canada or Mexico.

On the condition they have to live in Nunavut or the NWT.

Then I can live out my boyhood dream of running a gulag in the Canadian north.