Would you Aussies be keen on an Aus-NZ union?
>Freedom to travel between countries for a weekend away
>Freedom to work in either country if we wanted to
>Create a new, stronger dollar (or adopt the Aussie dollar)
>Keep Australians strong boat border patrols
>Many banks are already the same, easy to move capital around
I would be for it, I love going away to Aussie for a week or 2 once a year, what do other kiwis and Aussies think? Smelly USA fags can butt out of the thread
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This is probably for the better now
>>Freedom to travel between countries for a weekend away
>>Freedom to work in either country if we wanted to
You can already do this dumbass
fuck off we lost about 700k whites to australia since we enacted free movement
Back off from my bro, buddy
Connect North and South Islands to Tasmania. Cut off Melbourne, plug in New Melbouranialand.
We still need passports, and visas to work (all be it very easy to obtain both)
We 'did', but that was due to Chinese investment in Aussie mining, and there is nothing wrong with moving if the gains in moving outweigh the costs in moving. Wouldn't you move to America if you were offered a 200k job? (If the answer is no, the point i'm trying to make is that there is a price point for everyone)
Don't need a visa
>please take us back Australia
Pathetic, we already have Tasmania anchoring us, we don't need more baggage.
That actually wouldn't be entirely bad desu.
This is already possible?
You can already do those things idiot...
FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL
Auscunts would finally win a Rugby World Cup then.
Australasian Empire when?
Or perhaps Oceanania.
We need to make Australo-Hungary great again
No. Your accent annoys me. Fuck off.
Lmao we don't want more chinks m9
Also perhaps this flag would work better
Just become a state already.
Since NZ is a weaker country than AUS it would just be AUS piggy backing you.
Reconquista of England when?
I am definitely for NZ pegging it's dollar to the Aussie dollar and both countries accepting each other's money.
Would be the same as Scottish 10 pound notes having pictures of Scottish famous people, but able to be (grudgingly) accepted in merry old England.
As soon as we find an Arabic translator.
nah, just beat the language out of em
We don't have a joint dollar, and still need passports to travel.
This may not be entirely true, but it is definitely the strongest argument against (from the Australian perspective). In terms of net growth a union is better, and Australia on the whole can experience a short term increase /or/ decrease in GDP with initial shifts in labour.
What would you think happen? Would Aussies flock to NZ or would it be the other way around? I think logically kiwis would go to Australia, but the numbers wouldn't be severe enough to cause any type of economic depression (and certainly not long term).
No
no i was talking about since the 70s our economy has always under performed and we have had free movement and now about 1/5th of our white population has left
what the fuck are you even talking about? we already have free movement. it's pretty much a duel citizenship situation where you can get unemployment here without becoming an aussie...
I'm not racist but personally I don't really like Australians, so no.
wouldnt give 2 shits, watching turks and maori families take knifes to each other over some insults across the road was some entertaining times
H~hot a-user >.<
Plz no luud posting .-.
The two countries are too different for this to work.
I'm not a believer that our countries economy has under performed. We pioneer many free trade agreements and free labour agreements which (almost) always help our economy (due to it being small, we (as an economy) see benefits). Of course:
>now about 1/5th of our white population has left
Although I can't confirm your stats, I understand where you get this idea- If we open free trade and cannot compete with, for example China, our workers will migrate. Now it's tricky to find common ground here, because I don't think this is a problem- Free trade does not mean equitable trade, if a worker is willing and able to work at a lower price, I say let them! New Zealand to remain competitive needs 1. Innovation (which we, and by extension the west (seriously, Jap & China are always very sad that they don't have innovators like Steve Jobs or Google etc.) and 2. A less lazy work ethic- This may be biased but a lot of people I know are too willing to sit on the dole, and our minimum wage is too high; many jobs which require a lot experience or training are still offering minimum wage.
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>Australia 40% of federal budget spent on welfare
Hey lets let Kiwis come here!
>Australia bankrupted
No thanks Kiwi-bro. You can stay over there with your slightly shittier single parent payments.
there are 566,000 thousand people in australia born in nz and we have had free movement since 1973 meaning that the amount of people who have moved is probably vastly higher because of those who have died and their offspring would also be born in australia meaning there is not stats so we could have lost perhaps more than a million or even more potential whites in a country of currently 3 million whites
I do hate the welfare system here. But negative income tax and guaranteed income is too radical for people at the moment. I hope it will be pushed in this direction.
What the fuck? This is why you can stay there.
>Muh guaranteed income
No. Just no. Work or kys.
no fuck off, all the kiwis I know just talk about how good it is "back home". And the way you talk is fucking dumb m8.
I think its difficult to equate all 566,000 people as white people, There are plenty of Maori, Asian and Indian NZ born people that have moved to Australia.
If you bring your based gun laws over here, maybe we can do some sort of deal
that's racist, it's pent up jealousy
One day...
DELETE THIS
i want into new zealand. i`m white, i think kiwis are cute. please let me in.
Only thing in it for us would be Rugby World Cups forever...
Tempting, but your coconut problem would have to be sorted out first.
no that would be very bad for australia
i have met many new zealanders, they are all crypto-swedish
I don't want to ruin Australia with our hordes of maoris coconuts flips poos and chinks.
Fuck yeah, Maori women are hot as.
do you want to destroy the all blacks? wtf is wrong with you?
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and your whites, who only want to come over here to set up church groups to sponsor more Sudanese immigrants into australia
>Freedom to travel between countries for a weekend away
>>Freedom to work in either country if we wanted to
We already can?
the vast majority were white considering we only got asians since the late 80s
>Maori women are hot as.
not quite
If anything the south should secede
We need more countries not fewer. Competition between governments breeds better government for all
Fuck off Magyar scum. You ruined the Austrian empire we don't want you touching ours.
We're not all cucks, nomalfag kiwis aren't as defensive of shitskins as kiwis on Sup Forums are.
For some reason kiwis on Sup Forums go on about how shitskins are based and brotier, when they're fucking not.
yea im keen
keep the FUCK AWAY from our country you drug addled SJW FREAKS
Scotland and Wales still have their national sporting teams despite being a part of the UK. It would be the same kind of deal here.
New Zealand without their rugby team is borderline useless anyway.
They are gorgeous compared to kiwi white girls.
I can count the number of truly attractive NZ white women I've seen in my entire life on one hand, and I've been to many places.
Maori girls, especially Maori-white mixes are god tier in attractiveness when not fat.
This would only benefit new zealand.
i have seen that it is mixed maori girls that are attractive full ones are pretty ugo
yeah i agree with this one
pretty sure new zeleand is still part of australia
Worst. Idea. Ever.
Australia owes us nothing. Besides their economy is fucled. Politically they're a fucking basket case. Why should loser cunts amongst us kiwis feel we deserve to piggy back on their success? Would we allow Fiji to do the same? Of course not, this is how Australians view us.
Also kiwis have stopped moving to Australia and are returning in huge numbers. You're about 15 years too late with your proposal op.
And again, if I was Australian and saw this I would be fuming. Its cringeworthy shit at best. At worst it smacks of little man syndrome.
Think of all the Antarctica clay we would gain.
redpill me on the unclaimed area, can Serbia claim it?
>ALL THIS CLAY
>MAKE SERBIA GREAT AGAIN
NZ cunts are a bunch of scab's and thieves
you cunts come here scab our jobs
you stingy cunts refuse to pay for piss
you cunts are caught daily for stripping houses of the wiring b4 they have been built
you cunts are the equivalent of white niggers
please go cover up more Anglo history as well to protect the precious "natives" kilts.co.nz
you cunts literally destroy history to fit your narrative
But we already have freedom of movement, including the ability to live and work in each others country.
You're essentially advocating our national government be reduced to a state government, and be subordinate to the Australian federal government (which we'd be entitled to about 1/6th of the seats of, if my understanding is correct). Who wins there? We get less control over our affairs, the Australians get less control over theres. Don't even get me started on it reducing our regional influence, as well as the little global influence we have.
As for a stronger dollar, we're an export based economy, so we largely benefit from a weaker dollar. You might get lower prices on Amazon, Steam, or J-List, but the national economy suffers.
Australia is bro-tier, and our nations are two of the closest in the world, I can see why you'd think a union might be enticing, but it's hardly necessary. There's enough room in the southern hemisphere for two Anglo nations.
why are you any more special than Tasmania? Its also an island close to the Australian continent, and they seem to be doing fine in the federation.
delete
This.
Maoris are like latinos, full are ugly, but mixed are fucking gorgeous.
It's like they get the best traits for attractiveness of both races and lose the worse.
>Maoris are like latino
do not compare the maoris to fucking spics. maoris are a Honorable race and actually deserve bred out and anglicized
thats right good goy go breed with the natives
Convince me we wouldn't be the greatest country in the world. We would run the southern hemisphere. We would dominate every single sport. Our economy would be great.
Fuck off Kiwis, get the hell out
I guess you never heard
We already had that before the year 2000, we could travel back and forth with no passports required, we could go on each others benefits and have mostly the same rights as citizens, Australia stopped that shit because too many maoris were living off our dole and sleeping on our beaches
Dude, don't ever compare New Zealand to Tasmania.
Tasmania has a tenth of our population and absolutely no industry.
Its like suggesting Serbia is on the same level as Moldova.
doesnt apply to u cucks because you dont move on after laying your seed you become good loving husbands that water down the genes
too many new zealander's here already with massive chips on their shoulders
>muh all blacks, fuck australia, i hope they always lose at everything
>nz is soooooooooo much prettier than australia
>our food is sooooooooo much better too
>our climate is heaps better as well, it's too hot here
so fucken sick of hearing shit like that from you sheep fuckers, especially given that they're living here and have no plans of leaving because deep down they know it's better here.
>Smelly USA fags can butt out of the thread
You guys are different countries?
Cucks aren't welcome on Sup Forums
Everyone knows Maoris are our spics, the majority of prisoners and crime are Maori.
>>our food is sooooooooo much better too
What even is NZ food? Pavlova? Lamingtons? Those are all ours.
not to mention u fucks covering up history because ow no would upset Nigger land rights Absolute cucks standing in the way of progress for the sake of feelings makes me sick
well it's their fucking country isnt it dumb fuck
I've visited Australia, and I agree kiwis are an absolute embarassment over there.
They shittalk to aussies while living in their country popping out millions of kids and causing lots of crime.
You should apply the same immigration restrictions to kiwis as everyone else to save yourselves.
Kiwi immigrants are ungrateful shits that don't deserve to bludge of you.
Also don't send the shitty ones back here, detain them on christmas Island en-masse
I would wanna kill any immigrant group who constantly went on like that here. Whinging ungrateful cunts.
At least be happy knowing 15% of kiwis in Australia have returned home in the past 12 months and apparently many more have plans to follow
i've got no idea but it's the same shit i hear from all of them.
not true cunt there is evidence being coverd up by there own gov which stands in the way of the narrative that onbongos where the first there
so no its not there country
>the majority of prisoners and crime are Maori.
thats because we left the job half done until the 70s when they wanted to bring back maori culture which gave maoris an excuse to be criminals because of "muh white man oppression"
Pavlova is ours, Lamingtons are yours.
That doesn't mean jack shit. What do you think the point of settling there was?
Are you going to tell white americans that USA isn't their country?
yeah just like America is the Indians
*albeit dickhead.
let me fix that for you...
Exactly. Maoris with "MUH LAANND" are just as bad as Mexicans with "MUH ATZLAAN"
