>smartest men in the universe
-Why doesn't the one on the left have a portal gun?
-Why is the one on the right making fake portal guns?
-why didn't left just leave his job if he didn't like doing it instead of chimping out knowing it would end badly for him?
-why did right try to use his defective portal tech?
nah nah man, none of this shit adds up!
>smartest man in the universe
Any proof to back that up?
Writer's convenience
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>Citadel of Ricks was made to be a government to combat the governments hunting them
>Rick's enact policies on handing over portal gun for security and must contribute to the citadel
I dunno
You have to look at it on the premise of all Rick's having vastly differing intellect. The main Rick seems to be the smartest so far. Most Ricks apparently actually have an average IQ at best.
I'd imagine the intelligence of a given rick entirely depends on their universe.
lol this is why I come to redddit so much!
Rick fucks with everyone, and the Citadel of Ricks is where Ricks fuck with other Ricks.
And not every Rick is exactly the same as the others, and even the main Rick in the show is apparently exceptional for a Rick as well.
I'm guessing down on their luck ricks lost their portal guns and/or cant access the place they recharge them.
It's been long established that not all Ricks are created equal, and infinite timelines means infinite variations in Rick personality, style, and intelligence.
Look at Doofus Rick. Sure he's smart enough to make ovenless brownies instantly which puts him above most normal people, but by Rick standards he's borderline retarded.
>Why doesn't the one on the left have a portal gun?
He's a civilian.
>Why is the one on the right making fake portal guns?
Because he doesn't have one either.
>Why didn't left just leave his job if he didn't like doing it instead of chimping out knowing it would end badly for him?
He wasn't thinking straight because he was angry, something main Rick has shown a tendency for.
>Why did right try to use his defective portal tech?
Because he didn't think it would kill him.
Please think for yourself next time.
Doofus rick is smarter than the crackhead rick in the OP his bootleg portal juice did'nt kill him.
The left one doesn't have a portal gun for the same reason a lot of intelligent people around the world don't have regular guns. :^)
Didnt he demand an untraceable portal gun? I imagine every Rick on the Citadel has one, but the government can trace your every step if you use 'sanctioned' portal guns. They probably also have a tight grip on the materials needed to make one, which is why druggie Rick was making a shoddy one that killed him.
>Why doesn't the one on the left have a portal gun?
>Why is the one on the right making fake portal guns?
For Citadel to actually function as a society, it would need to heavily regulate portal guns, otherwise the crime rate would be complete and total chaos.
There are multiple universes you dumb fuck.
Each Rick is the smartest man in the Universe. It doesn't mean emotionally stable, immune to addiction, or immune to being exploited by smarter Ricks from smarter universes.
I mean fucking Doofus Jerry is the closest the multiverse has to a God and you're talking shit about a few Ricks being duped into surrendering their portal guns for a collectivist purpose? I mean, for fuck's sake.
After the what they saw a single Rick, even if that one was an exceptional one, can do with a single portal gun, heavy regulation would probably be very handily accepted.
I mean, how many "innocent" Ricks and Mortys died for no reason when C-137 went all chimpout? A single Rick almost destroyed the Citadel. Makes sense only Ricks in power in the Citadel with a lot to lose by doing shit like that would have access to a portal gun by law.
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>Implying all Ricks are exactly the same
They're mostly in the same ballpark, but there's literally a Rick who is so useless he's being trained to be someone's Morty because that's all he's good for.
And he's failed Morty school at least once, so we're supposed to believe he is dumber than most Morties.
>-Why doesn't the one on the left have a portal gun?
Maybe for the same reason you don't bring your leaf blower to work at the shoe factory ....
Upon rewatching the episode, I noticed that almost half the stuff dropping out of the garbage chutes into the "wishing portal" was portal guns.
>doofus jerry is the closest the multiverse has to a god
what?
nice catch
Also, I think that a lot of ricks never even invented their own portal guns and were just recruited for being ricks.
Tall Morty might actually be from the comics.
Killed his short Rick with a hammer.
who cares. it was a good episode for once.
Unlike reddit i dont think this show is smart so i dont care if it had dumb ricks
Because it's a metaphor for society.
Did you seriously not pick up that it was all a social and political commentary?
>none of this shit adds up
Yeah, like anything else in this show is supposed to make sense...
Rick is only super intelligent when applied to science, in every other way hes just as much of a fuck up as your average human, even more so in some ways.
Two good episodes in a row? What the fuck is going on?
Simple Rick lends a lot or credence to that theory.
If the ad was anything to go by, he never even approached the level of scientific experimentation most Ricks do.
He was probably located, and either recruited or kidnapped by the citadel, where Wonka Rick hooked him up to that machine.
>Why doesn't the one on the left have a portal gun?
he probably does have a portal gun
>Why is the one on the right making fake portal guns?
you mean portal gun juice
>why didn't left just leave his job if he didn't like doing it instead of chimping out knowing it would end badly for him?
cant run away from the citadel without a portal gun with enough juice
>why did right try to use his defective portal tech?
didnt want to get killed, was probably going to betray the mortys and run away anyways since he is rick
It's mainly that these Ricks do these things to themselves, falling into their roles in their made up society. It's not our intelligence alone that determine our well-being but also our identity.
its more like rick is used to be the very fucking best, every rick is
so they grabbed all the ricks and crammed them together into a society with a pyramid like power structure where someone is going to be at the top and a lot of people at the bottom
and all ricks are the smartest creature in the universe but they arent the smartest rick
so rick goes from being able to destroy a universe to being a fucking plumber
and they dont need plumbers, they are ricks, they can create a robot plumber in seconds or plumbing that self repairs but they do need to keep lesser ricks busy
I didn't expect to get aroused in this thread.
they had to rush the writing to get the show in production so half the season was trash
>-Why doesn't the one on the left have a portal gun?
>-Why is the one on the right making fake portal guns.
"Most" Ricks are smart, but not all have the same opportunities. They live on the Citadel unlike C-137, the materials they could use to make portal guns is most likely heavily regulated, among the other shit C-137 has free access to.
>-why didn't left just leave his job if he didn't like doing it instead of chimping out knowing it would end badly for him?
Angry people don't think rationally.
>-why did right try to use his defective portal tech?
Because he was caught red-handed and trying to make a quick escape despite not knowing if the portal gun fluid was stable/working right.
>literally make a multiverse so anything can happen
>meant to be a spring board premise
>you're retarded
>probably a harmonfag and haven't interacted with early Roland
Loser.
Honestly, at this point I'm considering that Ricks are written like green lanterns.
Unstoppable force that is able to plan and escape every possible death when it's just one, but they die like flies when a bunch of them are together for cheap shock value.
Crackhead Rick was also on crack.
The one on the left mentioned an untracable portal gun, which is a key feature most of you seemed to miss. The probably both have portal guns but once they entered and lived on the citadel they had to register them and become trackable. At that point one ended up in a dead end factory job ane the other ended up an addict, both very real outcomes when you're stuck in a single reality. The left Rick was already trapped in a loop and he chose to get stuck in a victorious loop rather than a monotonous loop. The moonshine portal fluid was probably for black market untraced portal guns. He tried to use the defective portal tech because he was afraid and fucked up on harder chemicals than your average rick.
This episode is the whole reason why our Rick doesn't want anything to do with the Citadel. In previous episodes, I'm guessing we were only ever seeing the highest upper echelons of Citadel society/the cream of thr crop when it came to Ricks and Mortys; we never saw the REST of the Citadel. And what we see is just another society where even people who are suppose to be the smartest in every universe are still forced to work factory jobs because "hey man, society's gotta give you SOMETHING to do; we can't all be super geniuses at once."
It also proves that we're still only working with a small subest in the whole of the multiverse.
Why not have everything automated? Would be quicker, more effective and easier especially with multiple ricks working on making such a system.
>which puts him above most normal people
Which means anyone over that line wouldn't choose to degrade themselves like that
Then 1) how did they arrive at the citadel (which was a voluntary thing) and 2) why were they confirmed to have equal iq in the Atlantis episode
>Why not have everything automated? Would be quicker, more effective and easier especially with multiple ricks working on making such a system
sure, make a society of violent geniuses with nothing better to do than to kill each other for control
maybe structure is ricks kryptonite, i mean what is a simple rick going to do about it? kill his boss, get a hostage and demand a portal gun?
your everyday rick has rick iq but that doesnt mean he has any of the experience other ricks have, who knows, there are ricks with all kind of robotic enhansments, you dont see them doing factory work
maybe all ricks are born equal but they dont die equal
Why didn't the Ricks just automate the manual labor?
>make a society of violent geniuses
If that is your issue the problem already exists cause at the very least there will be a significant band of elites. Only this way there is even more reason to back stab to gain status in a society which rewards it heavily
maybe Rick labour is just cheaper
and it probably happens all the time
the council wasnt always in control, they just had their first democratic elections so how do you figure they got in control in the first place? its all been controlled by a group of rich ricks anyways that not even our rick got the insight to kill
at least this way all the lower ricks are kept in check, all it takes is one gun shot from a lucky fucker
Rick hates himself. It would be funny to him to see other resins of himself being reduced to shit kicking garbagemen.
>and it probably happens all the time
So then you don't have a point any more, if the way to control people doesn't actually stop all the backstabbing then it doesn't work.
>at least this way all the lower ricks are kept in check,
You just admitted the system wouldn't, they would still kill each other and have more reason than before to do so
- Because governments know not to share their real power with the working class.
- He's not, he's making bootleg portal gun fluid to sell. You know, for money.
- Because he likely couldn't. There were Mortyless Ricks and Rickless Mortys and a million other unfortunate souls on the Citadel. Not all of them are going to have a warm cot in Beth's laundry room to sleep in.
- He didn't know the fluid was bad, so he tried to escape through a portal. You know, to flee from the fucking cops.
>nah nah man, none of this shit adds up!
That's because you're retarded, you fucking mong.
das a big butt
>So then you don't have a point any more
so having crime be something that only some underground ricks and mortys who kill other mortys do is the same as having complete and utter chaos with people running around with wepons all the time?
>You just admitted the system wouldn't, they would still kill each other and have more reason than before to do so
do you have any idea how police works irl?
>stupid show is stupid
whodathunk
Why the fuck do you ask so many questions?
>that only some underground ricks and mortys
Nice try to change it up from yeah it would happen all the time to I mean only some. There is no reason everyone of them wouldn't be motivated to do it, especially because they are all Rick.
Nice try to frame this all but you already admitted you are wrong. Your proposed a system to solve something and then admitted it failed at doing so. It in fact encourages it for them.
>utter chaos with people running around with wepons
How about they don't change everything up for the sake of an episode and have it be what was originally intended. A place where Ricks meet up and use. If they have no motive to kill they'll go do some dumb experiment.
That address no point I said, are you trying to go but they could be caught? It is fucking Rick, not only does that mean a corrupt police but version of someone who should be smart enough to get away with crime.
This episode had to warp so much just to work, that is bad writing.
who's this semen demon
Just by seeing this art I know that the humor is forced, unfunny and political.
Probably a number 1 show on reddit.
ok, im going to reformulate this because you are too stupid to get it
we saw a lot of crime going on in the last episode right?
who got away with commiting crime?
Intelligence isn't tied to success, especially when you have a city full of smart people. Why do you think so many PhDs struggle to find work and settle for bottom-ass jobs? Why do you think Walter White worked as a teacher and a part-time car wash guy? Scientific knowledge especially doesn't mean jack shit for success.
>This episode is dumb and has to warp things to make it work
>Yeah but did you see how it worked in this episode?
I mean I pointed that out in the last comment, the fact a show has it work a way doesn't mean that is actually sensible.
But Rick (and Ricks in general) had been shown not only to be smart but resourceful, creative and pretty successful. Even a stupid Rick can do stuff beyond most people's dreams,. It only works if we just assume every Rick around is suddenly incredibly stupid.
pllease answer the question so we can move on
Just because you are smart doesn't mean you have initiative or drive to use it. Probably tons of genius level people on this earth and how many do you hear of doing anything?
retards like you are why we got midichlorians
not everything has to be dissected and deconstructed
>Why doesn't the one on the left have a portal gun?
Okay, most likely answer: he got his confiscated and wasn't allowed to make another one. He was just too much of a pussy to go rogue and make another one, possibly because he feared he'd be caught by the Citadel and killed/imprisoned.
>why didn't left just leave his job if he didn't like doing it instead of chimping out knowing it would end badly for him?
You answered it yourself. He chimped out. No one is fully rational when they're angry. Rick on the left was flawed. Complacent. He was manipulated by superior Ricks into taking a menial role. Between men, it's the ones with the biggest balls, the biggest gun, and the most subordinates that put the rest in their place. Whoever started the Citadel found the best, and got the lesser ones to do the things no one else wanted to do.
The REAL plot hole question is: why did a citadel of super geniuses create an economy that isn't based off of robot labor?
>Why is the one on the right making fake portal guns?
Because he was never smart enough to make one, possibly?. Maybe he's doing it from scratch. If he knew how, then it wouldn't have been hard. Only other idea is that he had his confiscated as well and spent time trying to MacGuyver a new one, since the materials needed are either difficult to find or difficult to assemble.
>Why did right try to use his defective portal tech?
Desperation. He probably got his taken away as well, and was forced into labor like Left Rick. This Rick, however did go rogue, but to little success. Most likely, he wasn't smart enough (ever or anymore, due to drugs or something like that) to build a new, working portal gun, or perhaps making one from scratch with spare components was just a terrible idea, but a last-ditch effort. Either way, it led to his death.
One Rick has no power in a system controlled by a bunch of other Ricks. Since they're all basically the same it just a becomes a numbers game and the citadel has a lot of security
No. this is the smartest man in the universe.
Because once everything is fully automated there's no need for an economy or order for that matter. Limited automation with the purpose of augmentation is the end game because some Ricks want to be above other Ricks and they definitely want to be above Morties. The same rules apply irl. We could have totally automated factories, farms, transportation, law enforcement, etc. giving everybody free shit and free travel all the time with none of the problems you face with humans doing the same tasks, but no "sane" person wants that because it means we'll all be the same rank socially, and it also puts all of us at the mercy of canned algorithms.
>The REAL plot hole question is: why did a citadel of super geniuses create an economy that isn't based off of robot labor?
You would think having robots around a society that is smart enough to manipulate any robot to do their bidding would spell trouble.
>non-automated factory line
???
This. Plus it's less work as a higher up in control of the credits and portal fluid to tell another Rick to pull a lever than sit down and blueprint some automation for your factory. And since you know the other Rick is going to do it, why bother innovating?
Infinite universes would imply that there's plenty of Ricks that are super-ultra geniuses. Hell, most of the manual labor Ricks are probably Ricks taken BEFORE they started making their super inventions (like Simple Rick), so they don't know they have it in them to do some of the wild shit they CAN do.
Also, this is the rebuilt Citadel; the best Ricks were probably killed when our Rick crashed the original into the government's super jail. What were's seeing are all the Ricks that they could get their hands on.
*human regulated order
>everyone's forgetting Hillbilly Farmer Rick's line about having to keep up with a particular role
The head Ricks dump everyone into a particular role when they sign up for the Citadel. They probably have no real say in it, either. It's another case of Rick fucking with himself because he hates himself. Why do you think they literally kidnapped what looked to be the only happy Rick in the known multiverse to use as the main ingredient in a candy bar that actually gives you happiness?
>We could have totally automated factories, farms, transportation, law enforcement, etc.
No we can't, we aren't there yet. But society is moving that way cause for every business it is a better option. Automation of the work force is an inevitability
Plus for Ricks that doesn't matter, if they didn't like it they could leave which if they weren't needed as a work force would not be an issue
You would think having Ricks around a society that is smart enough to manipulate any rick to do their bidding would spell trouble.
Better question is how a system that was form in less than 5 years have 3rd generation factory owners.
We will only automate as far as it can decrease costs of labor. We won't ever fully automate our society to the point where it makes life easier for everyone, e.g. having fully automated transit, or having food production fully automated from start to finish and all the people receiving free food to their doorsteps.
We'll just automate factory labor to avoid paying the chinese and offer self driving cars to those who can afford it.
Cloning.
All the aliens and characters basically claim it in universe. It's canon until otherwise stated.
>e.g. having fully automated transit,
This brother doesn't know about HyperLoop.
>smartest men in the universe
But once you gather them all up and place them in one universe, no one is the smartest man in the universe...
Honestly, this episode was a total blast.
Every Rick is a barely functional nihilistic supergenius, but take an entire society of Ricks, and then the Ricks start fucking with each others and doing suboptimal choices because they ARE barely functional. That's the point.
Add to that the fact that the Citadel was blown up and all order disappeared, and then you get that episode.
Everything was better in the beginning, probably. But then the Citadel bred complacency into their Ricks, the Mortys without Ricks began pilling up, portal guns were confiscated, and everything went to shit. What do you get when one try to create a society with suicidal, antisocial, drug addled supergeniuses? You get that episode.
>having fully automated transit
That is being worked on though, cars that drive themselves are being worked on by a lot of different people.
>having food production fully automated
Most food production is, introduce a driverless care and a robot that packs bag and boom fully automated
>We'll just automate factory labor
And then where do the factory workers go? Suddenly we have a working class with no jobs. But for a business it is great so they have no reason not to.
The one on the left clearly had his taken away when he was sent to work at a factory
The one on the right brain must be fried
What if tall Morty was that dumb because instead of croenberging up his world tall Morty accidentally made the entire universe (or himself) stupid through science.
There's a difference between the existence of automated cars and all of a country's transit being automated.
>exaggerations and figures of speeches mean it's actually canon
if there was a running joke where everyone said rick was the stupidest person in the world, would that make it canon instead?
Nice to see someone who actually watched the episode and understands the actual themes of the show.
How do you know it won't be?
Delivery trucks and passenger cars are already being tested as automated. Larger things, like buses and subways, are sure to follow.
>There's a difference between the existence of automated cars
Which goes back to what i said earlier, we aren't there yet but we are moving that way and not stopping.
Even just factories being automated is happening and is will create a class of people with no other opportunities.
Unironically /thread
A Rick is a big fish in a small pond in their universe but the citadel is an ocean.
Same IQ, differing levels of ambition.
That's why "smart but lazy" people are a thing, you can know plenty of shit but still be a layabout dirtbag waste of space.
The Mad Max episode is there to have the family deal with the divorce and maybe complete summers character arc considering she hasn't done anything since
Pickle Rick is there to establish just how toxic Ricks and Beth's relationship is
Vindicaters is to establish how sick Morty is of Ricks shit but also how much Rick might like Morty (not that we needed this since every Rick and Morty adventure is this)
The Jerry episode is there to go into Jerry's arc, show that Rick and Jerry don't need to be enemies, show how vindictive Morty can be, and also how petty Beth is
The toxic episode is there to show how a confident Morty looks
And this episode is to show how the citadel is doing and bring back evil Morty
All these episodes build upon each other, I can't imagine the finale will be satisfying
Some plot lines probably won't even be finished by season 3
The one on the left had Ricks above him keeping him down for the many years that he worked there. You can bet that they never made it easy for him to do anything else let alone build a portal gun and escape.
The Rick on the right has clearly seen better days and it's no wonder he'd be able to mess up at something an average Rick could do.
Delivery drones are also becoming more common, say goodbye to the postman