I've only seen the first 'Hellraiser' and enjoyed it quite a bit, 3,5/5

I've only seen the first 'Hellraiser' and enjoyed it quite a bit, 3,5/5.

Should I watch the rest? I hear 2 and 3 are worth watching but after that it's all shit.

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None but the first are worth watching the entire franchise is a result of some bullshit contract that said the studio had to make more for some reason

Second one is pretty good, it expands the lore and themes of the first and has good visuals

3&4 made Pinhead more of a character and are basically just schlock

the rest of them, the studio just took unrelated thriller/horror scripts they had lying around and just added some hellraiser shit to them.

1 & 2. That's it. Stop there.

2 definitely, maybe 3 if you enjoyed 2, nothing exists after that

Was planning on watching only 2 and 3 besides the first one anyway as Arrow Video released a pretty cool box set of the trilogy.

Thanks for confirming.

The 10th one (?) that came out this year looks like complete shit, I mean fuck...

Yeah it's garbage don't bother

I might watch it in October for shits n giggles but in no way am I in a hurry

2 is amazing, it explores the mythology further and is a direct continuation of the original. Just prepare for a crazy tonal shift, it's way goofier and sillier than the original, featuring a wisecracking Cenobite spouting Freddy Kruegar-tier one liners. Which in itself is mad entertaining, just know what you're getting into.

3 devolves Pinhead to a typical slasher villain. The final third of this movie is just Pinhead and co roaming city streets killing everyone in sight. It's awful and pure schlock, but it satisfies the primitive part of your brain that wonders what damage the Cenobites would cause in an urban environment. Worth watching if you just want to see some chaos.

4 has excellent ideas and ambition, but the studio fucked the movie so hard during production the story is incomprehensible. By all accounts an awful movie, but if you're morbid and want to see a train wreck with brief hints of interesting ideas that the producers prevented from being realized, check it out.

5 being good is the shittiest Sup Forums meme of all time. 6 is literally the exact same movie with the exact same twist. 7 and 8 are repurposed scripts with a Pinhead cameo shoved in at the end. Neither are entertaining, just awful and boring. 9 was made to maintain the rights, basically is a remake of 1 but without any talent.

10 is actually okay in comparison to 3 - 9. A new entity called the Auditor steals the show, but most of the movie is bogged down by a generic by the numbers Seven detective story. Maybe just watch the Auditor scenes on Youtube and call it a day.

Plotwise 2 is a mess but it has a lot of nice imagery, even if the effects are kinda dated now.

3 and 4 are cheesy, but I have a soft spot for them.

Not a fan of the sequels after that, where the Hellraiser-esque bits were scaled back in favor of twisty mind fuck stories that were just lame.

5 is awful. But it's funny because Cavill's in it. And I think there's a cute gith chick in it.

1 and 2 are good. 3 is more of a regular horror movie and it's enjoyable to some extent. 4 is interesting because it's basically all lore (plus space).
After that all the movies are basically "we bought this thriller/horror script really cheap. Let's put Pinhead and the box in it for a couple minutes and sell it as a Hellraiser sequel"
Clive Barker was only involved in the first two. The studio that made those fell under and was absorbed by Dimension Films, and when they made Hellraiser 3 they didn't even bother calling Clive to ask for input or of he wanted in (let alone of they should make a third movie)

It's all shit past five. You can watch six just to see the actress who played kirsty come back, but don't have high hopes for it.

That's not part five. It's part 8.

Alrighty, might extend to watching up to 4 then actually, thanks for the input.

Cavill as in... Superman? Is he super young in it?

Kirsty's return is basically an extended cameo.

HAHAHAHA WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS???

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!?!?!

Skip Hellseeker and just watch this uncut alt scene and realize you saved yourself 1.5 hours.

youtube.com/watch?v=e4tLxQakYK4

Which number is this in the series?

A much better Kirsty return happens in the Boom Studios comic. An older Kirsty has teamed up with other survivors and they're going around destroying lament configurations. Comic starts great but then takes a really weird turn, then gets kinda good again.

Fun fact, the comic was billed as canon as it was the return of Clive Barker to the franchise. But it was later deemed non-canon when Scarlet Gospels finally came out

No, he was actually older. Some Benjamin Button shit

6

it's like bad convention cosplay. it's almost too bad to be believed. the worst part is the voice. Pinhead's voice was always lowered in pitch in post (like Freddy's) which they didn't bother to do for Revelations, so it sounds like a high school drama student giving a bad Pinhead impression.

(skip to 1:06)
youtube.com/watch?v=rDN5l9OzUfU

>the main dish is good... but we have such sides to show you

Third Pinhead actually looked the part, and it worked until he started ranting about how their infidelity was beneath him.

Good makeup, average script.

1 and 2 are good although the end of 2 got fucked cause the women didn't want to continue her rule
3 is a good horror flick but it changes the thematic of hellraiser too much and has the worst designs in the saga
4 was completely butchered by the studio but you can see a glimse of a good movie
the rest were scripts bought by the studio with pinhead plastered in it to maintain their rights on the franchise
they are psychologial horror wich means lots of fade outs wich goes in a complete oposite direction than the first 4 wich were all "real"

Why does this not get hailed as one of the worst films ever made? The other ones are at least funny due to how bad they are, this is just painful to watch, and not in a good way.

III is pretty schlocky and fun, I like it. IV is a complete mess but it's mostly watchable. The rest except maybe V are complete trash. The last one, Judgement, was ok though.

I actually kinda dug him, but it was lame that like a third of his screentime was literally the same couple shots of him on a ouch or something just repeated through the movie. And that final scene where he's banished and he's human again, fuck me, that was laughably bad. It even looked like shit, like they had to film it with a different, worst digital camera.

The 10th one? That one looks like the worst one judging by the trailer..

Post your letterboxd or imdb profile so we can judge your taste first and please provide more context as to why you think the 10th one is "ok"

>Wanna make Hellraiser movie
>Don't have the budget
>Ehm.. what if.. eh.. Pinhead only appears a little bit
>And we just never see Hell
>And the story is about people fucking around
>Yeah, we can make about a dozen movies like that.

Hollywood scum.

10's director says he wants to make 11 a direct continuation of 10. A new entity / Cenobite has taken up control of the Lament Configuration and Pinhead / Auditor, now in their human forms are trying to stage a coup to reclaim their positions. Sounds like it has potential, would love to see. All depends on whether or not the studio say yes or just wait another X years before making another panic movie to maintain the rights.

Goddamn.

You have shit taste. The trailer unironically looked okay. You can sense the detective stuff is going to be very amateurish, but the the torture scenes and monsters look top tier. As soon as the trailer dropped all horror fans were saying it looks way better than 3 - 9.

>doesn't know anything about my taste
>judges it based on the fact I thought a trailer looked bad

also
>A LOT OF PEOPLE AGREE WITH ME THEREFORE I'M RIGHT
I bet you shill disney shit too you fucking moron

Hellraiser 1 is good
Hellrasier 2 is fine
3 - only watch for Terry Farrell in her prime.
8 is sorta fun if only to see Henry Cavill and Katheryn Winnick in a shitty film.

>Henry Cavill and Katheryn Winnick in a shitty film

So, what else is new?

Go to reddit if you don't want to be anonymous, I'm not posting a fucking IMDB profile to soothe your autism.
Pros:
>The Auditor
>introduces something new instead of rehashing old ideas too much
>set/costume design

Cons
>generic detective plot
>low budget
>cheesy ending

Like I said, it's ok. Much more watchable than all the other straight to video ones.

whats the auditor lol

i bet he had to audition for the role of the auditor haha

>introduces something new instead of rehashing old ideas too much

I felt the idea of the auditor was good but did not work with Hellraiser lore.

Should have stayed its own thing instead of slapping the Hellraiser logo onto it.

Ironically he's the director, so he's the only person that didn't have to audition.

He been in three good films.

The Man from U.N.C.L.E.
Stardust
The Count of Monte Cristo

you forgot BvS, it's good, shut up.

I liked the character of the auditor and he worked well with Pinhead, but the rest of the movie was just too bland.

I'd watch a part 11 if they actually made a movie that showed more of them and involved trips to Hell, but they just don't have the budget for that.

The stuff with the angel got on my nerves. It just opens up a whole can of worms continuity wise.

It seemed to go against the original idea that the cenobites just gave their "pleasure" to those who opened the box. Since when did they judge anyone?

I liked Stardust but don't remember Cavill in it at all

The auditor isn't a cenobite, he's more of your standard demon who judges souls entering Hell. Judgement is the most "Christian" of the films. It's kind of weird, in two you get the idea that Hell is some alien dimension, it's not really "Hell" in the traditional sense. But as the movies go on the series becomes more and more stereotypically demonic.

how can you even think that shit was "ok" and then judge someone else's taste, you are quite literally an underage fucking pleb.

I was under the impression that he, at least, works for Pinhead though.

The problem with Pinhead is his motivation keeps changing from film to film. The first two he seemed like just this guy who just shows up to give you their version of "pleasure". They seemed to have no personal take in it.

By part 4, he's an evil demon who actually wants to unleash Hell on Earth (he was like that in part 3 too, but that film had the excuse that that was only Pinhead's evil side running amok)

Now, you get to Judgment and he's actually going just after evil people to punish. It's not even people choosing to call him with the box. They have no choice because he basically tricks them to come to his house and ambush them.

And then Clive Barker himself threw the fans under the bus by pretty much stating how the Hellraiser hell was actually the Christian hell.

It's like we just can't have nice evil eerie stuff anymore, everybody has to tie their shit to something.

Even Hellraiser Judgment had to have a little homage moment at the end where the angel got ripped to pieces, she just had to quote that guy from Hellraiser 1.
>And Jesus Wept!

Ugh I hate those moments, we fucking know that the original exist.

Way I see it, Pinhead's realm is now hell, or part of hell at least. It clashes with heaven but they work together, and god has ultimate control over everything. The auditor technically works for god, helps sort out people who deserve to into hell (as opposed to purgatory or something). He's friendly to both parties because his work is for the benefit or both, just spends more time around Pinhead because he's closer to hell/purgatory than White Angel Lady

>doesn't at make any arguments against the trailer, just throws an autistic temper tauntrum

Not an argument you buzzword spouting faggot.

They really needed to explain all that a little better. 10 movies in, and now suddenly angels are showing up and can apparently order Pinhead around. Where were they the rest of the time? This is a big change to the mythology they needed to provide a little more info on what's going on. I got the plot, but all these other questions pop up because of it.

Did he say that?

I always thought it wasn't (originally )supposed to be liked to Christian mythology, but what do I know

>terrible acting all around
>cinematography resembles cheap and shit syfy/fx tv show
>"WHAT IS GOING ON HERE ON HERE ON HERE ON HERE" - fucking top kek that was beyond cringe-worthy
>a horror that was praised for being imaginative now has some fucko in a gimp suit and gas mask slicing with blades... yeah real imaginative
>what was once and intriguing idea is just turned into "LOL SAW-TIER TORTURE TIME"
do you need more?

you're a pleb with shit taste and you have to live it.

Particularly in 'murican media it seems everything has to tie to christianity somehow because that's all they know

>Did he say that?

I quote from Clive Barker's last book. (Priest=Pinhead)

The Harrowers follow the Priest into the Wastelands, where they discover a tribe of inbred demons waiting to take them across a cursed lake to a tiny island in the center. The Priest and Norma have already secured passage to the island, where the Priest hopes to find a rumored cathedral - Lucifer's throne room - where he can experience a spiritual revelation by holding audience with the Devil.

The Harrowers and the Priest discover that the cathedral is in fact Lucifer's tomb, after he had committed suicide due to being forced to live away from the presence of God. Enraged, the Priest strips Lucifer's body of its armor, dons it himself, and declares himself the new Lord of Hell.


All this talk of Leviathan and the Labyrinth and demons to some angels to others, killing innocent people and suddenly.. oh wait, its Christian hell.

>>terrible acting all around
This is your first Hellraiser movie, I assume? The Auditor was top tier at least.
>>cinematography resembles cheap and shit syfy/fx tv show
Everyone knows the detective stuff is amateurish, you go into this knowing that because of the ultra low budget. Learn to temper your expectations, it's pathetic calling out shit like this. The little budget they had was put where it counts, into the house.
>>"WHAT IS GOING ON HERE ON HERE ON HERE ON HERE" - fucking top kek that was beyond cringe-worthy
There was literally nothing wrong with that.
>>a horror that was praised for being imaginative now has some fucko in a gimp suit and gas mask slicing with blades... yeah real imaginative
Hellraiser 2 was the last one that was imaginative. The non-Cenobites of Judgment were cooler than anything we've had since 2.
>what was once and intriguing idea is just turned into "LOL SAW-TIER TORTURE TIME"
LOL SAW-TIER TORTURE TIME? Do you understand how to make arguments? I can tell you're fresh off the boat from Reddit.

>now has some fucko in a gimp suit and gas mask slicing with blades... yeah real imaginative

Yeah that was terrible, pretty much the only good thing from that movie was that the auditor was a pretty cool guy and new Pinhead seemed closer to the original.

So only about 98% of the movie was shit.

Watch II, at least. III is insanely cheesy, but Bloodlines (IV) is actually pretty decent. Same with Inferno.

Do not venture further than Inferno.

Also try to track down the script for Bloodline where the story makes much more sense before the studio started fucking around with things. I think it's still easy to find online.

Oh,

Does that book connect to the movies or to The Hellbound Heart or to what?

>>"WHAT IS GOING ON HERE ON HERE ON HERE ON HERE" - fucking top kek that was beyond cringe-worthy
There was literally nothing wrong with that.

you just revealed your brainlet power level

Not an argument you cringelord.

it's shit-tier suspense editing, the line-delivery is objectively awful acting and the way it's all put together can only bring out a cringe-worthy reaction out of anyone who knows anything about film.

now fuck off you brainlet, a low budget is not an excuse for something being that bad.

Wrong. There is nothing wrong with the line delivery.

It's some kind of sequel to The Hellbound Heart and the short-story The Last Illusion, doesn't take the movies (either Hellraiser or Lord of Illusions) into consideration