I wake up to my personal assistant computer alarm going off on time as I scheduled it, grab my phone which has a battery so large that I won't have to worry about charging it for the whole day. Then I get in my car, and drive phenomenal speeds with ease and comfort, knowing that if I were to be struck by another car, or hit something of my own fault, that I will be perfectly fine, as my car has a perfect 5 star safety crash test rating. If I feel a little crazy and decide to go over the speed limit and get pulled over, I do so confidently, knowing that the dashcam and bodycam the officer is wearing will accurately record our entire interaction.
I go to work and sit in a comfortable, air conditioned room, where I am entitled to breaks, both paid and unpaid, but I spend more time browsing the internet then I actually do working. My boss leaves me alone, and expects I meet my deadlines. He does not touch or speak down to any of my co-workers, as he would be tried by a jury of his peers and then sent to jail if they believe he is innocent.
All of that was not possible 50 years ago for a single westerner, and now all of it is possible.
But there's a catch.
I know that I'm part of the modern Western labor aristocracy. My comfortable place in society is built on poverty and the exploitation of millions of workers, both abroad and in my country. The rapacious nature of capitalism will devour the abundant resources and conditions that make my lifestyle possible, eroding my access to quality consumer products, comfortable employment, and the benefits of a just and functioning society.
Serious question though, should we stop? I mean who cares about a bunch of gooks and niggers working hard for free shit for us?
Oliver Wilson
Did you miss "and in my country"?
James Taylor
Leftypol go back to your containment board.
Juan Walker
no
Caleb Sanchez
Yes
Isaiah Turner
no
Luke Nelson
>hurr I don't like living under capitalism You should move to one of the many successful and vibrant non-capitalist countries then
Wyatt Thomas
>non-capitalist countries Name one. >Protip: You can't And no, China, Russia, and Vietnam all do not fall under the label 'Socialist'
Carter Gomez
>capitalism is a system of government. >OP is third world retard
Nolan Cook
Ok all of the countries that under go some Communist Revolution end up being "not real communism." Meaning the workers never get the means of production and it's still a Vanguard State Capitalism. But if all these revolutions seem to end in disaster what makes you so sure your revolution won't just go down the same path. Also what if the rich and wealthy simply move and through pressure make most countries embargo you, or even invade. This revolution would require a worldwide participation, that's not going to happen.
Juan Lewis
>capitalism is a system of government. Where does OP say this?
Ethan Davis
>united states and its allies exert pressure on fledgling states >hurr it obviously just doesnt work
Ian Thompson
>image makes such a claim.
Adrian Gonzalez
Maybe "le true" communist society doesn't exist for a reason, mate.
Julian Diaz
Anyone have that Spongebob Man Ray gif of True Socialism?
Colton Nelson
I said it does work reread the text retard.
Cooper Ward
What happens when automation takes over the majority of the labor force? Unemployment will be at 50%. What about 90% unemployment? And then 100% / 99% unemployment? Capitalism will eventually invent itself out of existence.
Ryan Ward
But the US and it's allies embargo / invade every potentially communist rebellion and squashes it before it can grow.
Samuel Diaz
extermination of the lesser races
Hudson Perez
ITT: Hungary offends the Hungryforburgers
Zachary Jackson
There will never be that much of unemployment. We see in modern times that we are leaning towards service industry and simple manufacturing has gone the way of the dinosaur in terms of its presence in the US. Just as the industrial revolution spawned many more jobs so will some automated revolution. Also why would capitalists want so much unemployment? Then no one would be able to afford their products... And I know there is that CGP Grey video but the horse analogy doesn't work because we're not horses and we have more than one function. If there comes a time of post scarcity then so be it, for now just shut up with the utopia ideals that will never be reached.
Anthony Lee
Yes that's what I'm saying, who's to say that if you do some revolution another country won't just invade you out of pressure from the rich.
Christian Wood
>caring about niggers and muds who have no ability to build their own societies
Colton Brooks
The next system will be much more about innovation and freest possible market with the government providing basic income.
This will not be socialism nor corporativism.
That's it, nothing new to see here, good bye ppl
Isaac Wright
Name one job that humans can do that AI can't eventually do better, cheaper, for less money? Literally every function we can preform, from bartending to coding can eventually be done by a computer or AI.
Brody Harris
>Just as the industrial revolution spawned many more jobs so will some automated revolution >some >having to add in your own qualifiers at the start of the argument because you know you're running out of road on the debate >why would capitalists want so much unemployment? Then no one would be able to afford their products This is why Marxists are a thing. Not because "I would like it if we could all share" but because capitalism has fundamental contradictions that mean it will eventually destroy itself.
Jose Ross
Better be a slave your whole life, tyrone, ,Billy-bob here will just catch you again if you try to run away.
>The people will just agree that a few people in the world own everything and they have no say in what happens >The rich will willingly pay basic income
Eli Bennett
>the rich already 'pay' for much more expensive things than basic income
It will be cheaper to give everyone basic income and let the market sort out prices and demand/offer, the rich will not be overwhelmed by the taxes, it will probably be even lower...
Isaiah Hall
>society is built on poverty and the exploitation of millions of workers
The poorest person today is several times richer than the richest person 500 years ago.
The idea that wealth can only be gained by stealing it from others is demonstrably false. If wealth was a zero sum game, there would be no such thing as GDP growth.
Eli Bailey
Also only dumb richs pay taxes anyway
Anthony Gonzalez
Universal Basic Income will almost certainly be employed for a short period of time, but it's unsustainable when less than 1/100 humans actually earn money. Then it becomes wealth redistribution, and we have seen historically that without fail the rich will fight tooth and nail to keep their precious capital.
Brayden Stewart
You alright Hungary bro
Alexander Hill
>Only the dumb rich pay taxes >Yet a system with no incentive to make profit (it all gets taxed away anyway which the rich avoid too) will be able to accordingly regulate prices and labour.
Brody Howard
but why does communism have to monopolize the opposition to capitalism?
Brody Hill
The State already has full control over rich people's capital.
It is just not that smart to do anything against them and lose international dominance.
Like our government did, we arrested the owners of the biggest international players we had, we will regret this soon.
You are nothing taking any incentives to profit with basic income, not even one lol, everyone will want those basic incomes and even build lifestyles around this.
Henry Ramirez
We don't know the jobs of the future and it's now what is done better its what the consumer wants. If the consumer is willing to pay $10 to watch some guy on a live stream then so be it. An AI would probably play a game better but we chose to have that social aspect. In places like Japan people are so anti social they start to pay people to talk to them in bars. Just as our society will drift into isolation we will pay people to talk to us etc etc. And someone has to code the AI or maintain it. We probably wouldn't allow AI to maintain AI because that sounds like the plot of a move where robots take over. For example of my earlier claims, Chess is played by robots 100x better than any humans but we chose not to watch the robots and instead watch humans play because it's boring to watch machines.
Easton Reed
Oh and by the way the refutation to your shitty infographic is that the slave/peasant had no choice but to participate in his respective system, whereas the commie can go form his own commie utopia- literally no one is stopping him.
Benjamin Young
Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea are calling your name comrade
Adam Powell
>The poorest person today is several times richer than the richest person 500 years ago.
Are you braindead?
Michael Ramirez
What do you propose as an alternative that? >Hardmode: At no point in the economy / government can it rely on unfair treatment of workers.
John Kelly
>the new system, why, it will be something so vague, so wonderous, I cannot describe it to you mere plebs >now it is time for me to leave, good-bye Truly Brazilians are the biggest shitters on the whole internet.
>i don't understand inflation, capitalism, feudalism, advancement, or in fact anything and deal solely with platitudes: the post
Kevin Russell
fascism? A system that doesn't see people as insects? A less materialistic one? Don't really know but you had almost a century to confirm that communism doesn't work at all.
Camden Clark
This, the poorest person alive today is in debt.
Austin Bennett
Bernie is a false prophet and a sellout that enjoys being pegged by hilary clinton while his wife is fucking a mandigo.
Landon Diaz
>be me >marxist-leninist >browse Sup Forums >communism is mentioned >the utter ignorance of the topic is made clear >anons parroting disinfo and fallacies >lose will to post >leave them to their ignorance
Gabriel Bell
jahans why haven't you killed yourself
Aaron Edwards
>Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea >Venezuela Pseudo socialist at best. US & it's Allies have destroyed the economy.
>Cuba US & it's Allies have destroyed the economy.
>North Korea North Korea is a dictatorship. Also, US & it's Allies have destroyed the economy.
Nathan Bennett
>Bernie "Controlled Cuck Opposition" Sanders
Most here don't even know what /leftypol/ is
Camden Perry
Please kill yourself you filthy commie.
Anthony Wright
Feel free to enlighten us on the topic
Julian Russell
marxism-leninism doesn't work lol
Aiden Foster
>Brazil Sorry buddy, but his country is light years ahead of yours.
Jayden Miller
>he thinks fascism is an alternative to capitalism Go ahead, tell us how fascism is a great alternative to capitalism purely from an economic standpoint. Don't try and sell me on your feels before reals bullshit Also >you had almost a century to confirm that communism doesn't work Yeah it's a crying shame fascism didn't even last a decade, definitely deserves a bigger chance. Poor fascism!
>The poorest person today is several times richer than the richest person 500 years ago. >The poorest person today >Richer than the richest person 500 years ago >FUCKING IMPLYING
Also >There would be no such thing as gdp growth >What is the creation of labour-multiplying capital by labour >What is population growth
Benjamin Harris
we should just genocide all communists and get over with it
Jackson Phillips
Lenin destroyed Russia at LEAST you could be a stalinist and it would be better lol
Dylan Butler
alright aquafresh, there is something that no commie can ever answer: Communism is about equality, be it status, spiritual or material. whenever inequality is spotted, for instance my neighbour had a fire in his flat and now half of his flat is in terrible condition, this inequality has to be reported and compensated for. now that everyone shares everything and we are all friends, and noone tries to be a cheater (pro tip: this is what kills collectivism), community gets together with relief help for my neighbour. seems really cool huh? and it is, and it works, as long as your community is sub 50 people. now lets go for a bigger scale. to make sure that there is material equality, every product has to be priced the same across the whole country, now lets take a medium size country like Britain for example, whenever I am in London or Liverpool or some shithole in Scotland, all products should cost the same, and this is where we are having problems. for example a Farmer that lives on outskirts of Manchester may be selling eggs through government, eggs are transported around northern england and the problem is that costs of eggs will depend on location, if farm is relatively close to Salford, one egg may cost 20p, but if eggs go all the way down to Stockport, then cost should go up to 30p per egg. this is where we gotta scale nationwide and it becomes a problem. because now either egg in Salford costs 30p, and people there basically overpay, or those in Stockport pay 20p and they get them cheaper than they should and we are at loss. you could also do a median and roll with 25p, but will the money from interpolation go to the right places? driver that runs short courses between Salford and farm will have more money in the end of the day than the driver going between farm and Stockport. and Oil aint free my toothpaste friend.
Zachary Gomez
>Monaco Gosh who could it be
Parker Reed
>unregulated capitalism propelled forward by nationalism Seriously?
Noah Torres
>hurr
Fuck Shillary and fuck reddit! Honestly though, I think the only reason why /leftypol/ or leftists on the chans exist at all is because its too much work to show them how stupid they are.
The reasons are too complicated for you to understand, goodbye.
Eli Myers
fascists had both the liberals, communists, and ultimately nazis against them
Isaiah Miller
If your phone battery lasts the whole day you ugly
Caleb Baker
How many more millions of people need to die before you're finally satisfied with with what everyone else is saying? Communism is terrible.
Adrian Hall
Then go browse /leftypol/ it's a circle jerk of name dropping vague philosophers and acting intellectually smug. Heck half the people here in this thread are from /leftypol/ probably. I'd have a feeling anyone with a UK flag is Xixizy. I'm actually opposed to AnCaps and the such but I'm not a communist, I'm a fascist.
Hudson Robinson
you are most likely a moroccan/turk subhuman looking for gibs. Luckly you pests are easy to put down if needed
Ethan Reyes
Yeah it has accepted Islam at least a century before us
Colton Davis
>Communism is about equality, false >seems really cool huh? No, thats not communism, you fucking idiot.
Liam Reed
>Gosh
Get out.
Robert Brown
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Luis Gomez
When you consider yourself to be a marxist-leninist its pretty obvious that you are the one thats ignorant of Communism. Go fucking kill yourself mate. All communists are retarded, but it takes a special kind of stupid to be a marxist-leninist.
Jordan Cook
>2016 >arguing with pinkos without bullets
Fucking waste of time m8, it's too late for them.
Adam Williams
>archive.is/SzjXw >Bernie is prepared to be a liberal thorn >liberals >socialist >liberals are socialist YEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW!
t. some rich kid living in a country with a higher unnatural death rate than syria
>lol >laughing at your own retardation >being a fucking retard and laughing about it on a public forum Holy shit, do South Americans just sit around eating mercury and lead when not fucking each other in the ass?
Gavin Wilson
I thought Henry was holding a turkey leg not a gay ass glove. The fuck?
Jayden Perez
>US & it's Allies have destroyed the economy. >being able to destroy a countries economy without firing a single shot
Looks like we win yet again.
Colton Thomas
That isn't an answer to my question. Answer my question.
Hunter Rodriguez
Did I trigger you mate?
The left wing shouldnt be. It is right now. It shouldnt be. Identity politics is retarded.
Matthew Watson
why do i care if gooks made my phone?
Landon Miller
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Hudson Martin
classless society implies equality as in noone is above or under you, we are all on the same shitty level and everyone going above others is cut down to the lowest level with the rest. so yeah, equality and as I pointed out, greed/cheating is what kills collectivist movements such as communism.
Charles Bennett
Oh look a lifelong politician is talking about doing things, how impressive. Let's see the things Bernie has actually done recently: >runs bid for Dem nomination to draw out millennial vote >willingly does not push on any of the 10000 controversies surrounding his opponent and encourages his supporters to do the same >panders to groups like BLM yet still manages to become a target for them >despite massive amounts of evidence that show DNC colluded to help Hillary win through shit like gerrymandering, Bernie does not press this point >loses nomination >uses donations from bernouts to buy new lakeside home >stumps for Hillary
Brayden Myers
Interesting comparison, since slavery was ended on the generosity of whites, not a slave revolution.
Brayden Roberts
Yea begging for Clinton to sexually humiliate him even after wikileaks realy shows his dedication to his principles
Adrian Powell
>Just as the industrial revolution spawned many more jobs so will some automated revolution. Not for the horse.
Asher Ramirez
Yes. I don't like people who come from the upper middle class, or whose ethos comes from a secluded bubble world. You mannerisms are offensive to the eyes, aquafresh. All you commie circle jerk retard do is debate semantics and far reaching utopian ideals meanwhile every practical examples of Communism has failed in being instituted. Your ideology no longer has a place in modern geopolitics.
Jeremiah Sanchez
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Juan Foster
>thinking embargos are somehow a form of victory by causing the needless suffering of millions
Benjamin Campbell
> marxist leninist
Anthony King
Nice meme. I like the part where in every example, the evil ones are wearing the crowns and the good ones are wearing shackles. It's almost like people like you keep getting what you want and fucking up, anyway. Like your ideology doesn't work. Weird, huh?
Anyway, feel free to gtfo and expatriate to North Korea, I'm sure they're willing to give REAL Communism® a shot.
Jaxson Clark
>in which some role players with aspergers make shitty, unfunny MSPaint comics misrepresenting everything about their 'mortal enemies' in order to dissuade anyone from visiting and perhaps being converted Just stop. Your humour, art and perception is just fucking trash, shitty mspaint comics can be funny, but not when they're so fucking cringey and wrong. At least let someone funny do it.
Wyatt Torres
>blacks >people
Jaxon Jackson
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Hunter Sanchez
I mention the horses in my reply....humans are social creatures horses aren't. Humans have an adaptable brain, horses just have legs that can go fast or pull something. That social aspect of humans will really create anything out of nothing.
Jack Brooks
>dude lets install a radicalist regime to execute the landowners and put all the power into a corrupt bureaucracy that will eventually disband itself when it has achieved global domination what could go wrong
Hunter Perez
>classless society implies equality as in noone is above or under you No you fucking mongoloid. Classes have to do with structures in power, fundamental differences, not if you have more toothbrushes than your neighbour.
also >Someone itt is so triggered he makes strawman comics including blaming a chan board for the dysfuctionality of Zimbabwe.
