Waco finale on in 15 minutes

Waco finale on in 15 minutes
what the fuck was his problem?
also waco, more like kino am i right

he and his followers wanted to be left alone

not to say that the atf was right but he could have stopped it though
he was ready to come out until he saw the news reports on him

yeah, he should have been left alone

the penalty for being a weirdo isn't death

The ATF went about it in the worst way, but they wanted him for being a pedo

no, the corrupt clinton admin with janet reno wanted to create a scene

if the doc didn't show that, it was shit

Pure kino.

I know this isn't what really happened, but it's awesome anyway.

damn they actually put Reno in the show. the absolute madmen.

i think they wanted a good showing after Ruby ridge and Reno was all up in there because of "muh gunzzzz".

Good show though, taylor kitsch playing koresh.

is it over?

this. that fucking cunt clinton is responsible for all of this.

it's accurate enough.

and they proved it by killing all of the kids. get your head out of your ass.

now we need one more episode showing all the evidence disappearing and other evidence being "mislabled".

>We are all Americans.

>When did we all start seeing each other as the enemy?

Where was the part where David ordered members to pour gasoline at the entrances as survivors said he did.
Or the part where most of the kids were shot in the head

I wish I could watch it. Fuck SpikeTV and fuck Paramount.

The penalty for a fuckload of illegal guns, explosives, racketeering, and polygamy might as well be death, though

is waco kino? was considering watching it

Go watch the actual documentary that got released like 6 weeks ago. Not revelations of Waco, that’s more paramount cancer. Watch Waco madman or messiah

Watching them crush that El Camino was painful

True, but 25 kids died too.

>tfw no cult gf

Well, now I'm angry AND curious.

So where can I find some credible information on what actually happened in Waco? As in something that doesn't come from a Branch Davidian or one of the goons who sieged the compound.

>come out
"OK I will"
>seriously come out
"Ok"
>now
"Ok just give me 3 weeks to finish raping these kids and cucking my followers and write my religious text"
>please let everyone go
...
>fine, here is some teargas, come out
"Let me just open fire and start my rape and cuck compound ablaze"
>stop and let everyone go

So did they follow the actual story of what happened

Press S to spit on grave

S

go to the waco museum alex jones built

Started okay but then it started leaning pretty heavily towards them dinduing nuffin.
I’ve seen the guy that was undercover speak about them and he basically said he thought they were fucking weirdos, while the show makes it seem like he was being won over by them

...

They basically changed him to a different character for the show. He didn't have the same name or backstory.

he did nothing wrong

F

I'm ok with killing christ stains.

F

All I knew about Waco before I watched this is that it was a cult run by a crazy guy like Jonestown. So I wasn't expecting it to be so sympathetic towards him.

I've gotta be honest though if my church leader claimed to be Jesus or whatever and then told me only he was allowed to fuck anybody, including my wife and underage daughter, I'd probably fuck off. Thats fucking suspicious as hell. Then again I can't really imagine myself in their state of mind.

Those are the only two sources of information, the evidence was burned to the ground. So you're out of luck if you won't accept either.

This pasta is factually incorrect in at least 3 spots, doesn’t to much for the credibility of the rest of it

I didn't get this at all. They portrayed him as a weirdo the whole time, right until the end, not meeting his deadline with an ellipsis at the end. They portrayed both sides correctly as far as I could tell. It was assholes versus retards. The retards died because head retard didn't care about them as much as he cared about his "message from God." and assholes just wanted the charade to end, killing everybody and then claiming themselves they dindu.

There are Davidians that thought David was fucking underage girls and said they heard him order people to poor gasoline at the entrances when they were being gassed, if that counts

Kill your entire family

Religion is a hell of a drug user.

>They portrayed both sides correctly as far as I could tell.
Branch Davidians poured gasoline, had illegal weapons and explosives, and the show was totally one sided on the initial assault. Then there is what I just pointed out with the undercover guy

it doesn't because they're coerced statements

A&E coerced their statements?

IVE BEEN IN A CAVE

>he could have stopped it

He wasn't doing anything wrong in the first place. Cults are weird but that's not illegal.

WTF why is Zack snyder leading a cult?

They had a bunch of illegal firearms and explosives. Also polygamy is illegal as well

>the show was totally one sided on the initial assault
Explicitly showing that the ATF fired first almost made me stop watching it. I'm not saying they didn't, but it's impossible to prove. Should have left it with an ambiguous off-screen gunshot.

Guns weren't illegal and there were zero explosives.

>Also polygamy is illegal as well

Well good thing we burned them all alive, can't have that shit happening here in the land of the free!

>polygamy is illegal as well
only with governmental marriage
you can have as many wives as you want if you aren't getting marriage licenses each time

Yes, the ATF destroyed video evidence of the initial gun fire because they didn't want to prove they were innocent.

>had illegal weapons and explosives

Care to provide any proof of this claim?

odd how none of that shit cooked off in a massive fire

Shh don’t question the government

i know they were innocent but it was clear from the beginning that they werent gonna back off.
if someone was holding a gun to your head, assuming you arent a karate master your only two options in that scenario are to do whatever they say and pray that they let you live, or die.
no matter how unethical and shitty it is, the man with the gun has all the power, and you are just shit out of luck

he and everyone in the compound could have survived if he had just prepared his anus and taken it, but he chose not to come out even after making a deal with them

Some people have greater convictions than others and are ready to die for what they believe in.

his family sure seemed like they didnt want to die

>trusting the police to not simply gun you down after Ruby Ridge.

that's the problem with the information with this entire thing. you can't really trust anything because it's all based on biased info from one of the two sides involved. atf says they fired first, davidians say the atf fired first. atf says the davidians caused the fires, davidians say the atf caused the fires. we'll never know. it's all muddled shit and all it's good for is to get people to pick and choose a side.

There were 46 total weapons converted to be full auto including:
>22 M-16 pattern rifles
>20 AK pattern rifles
>2 SP-89s
>2 Mac 11s
>two AR lower receivers
Also
>21 suppressors
>4 practice hand grenades converted to be live
They also had over 100 more M-21 practice grenades that were partially converted by being threadded and plugged but didn't have a main charge or fuse system
Plus 11 M-69 practice grenades partially converted
219 grenade pins
243 grenade levers
and over 200 inert M31 practice rifle grenades

Yeah that was really annoying. I think best way to showcase it would have been
>ATF Shoots dogs because hey it's the ATF
>Wackos think they are getting shot at and return fire
>Firefight
Instead of just being totally one-sided. Off camera would have worked as well.

this show never had any intention of being ambiguous

He surrendered, ate the weapons charge that was just bait to try and flip him to be an informant, and got a settlement for everything else.
Poor guy took the first settlement they offered, too. He could have easily gotten over x100 that

>dont show up for court
>think nothing is going to happen

his fault

That's why it is bad. It's trying to re-write history

>the penalty for being a weirdo isn't death
someone hasn't read The Stranger

yea well, hick gun nuts love this shit because muh gubament

a chronology of april 19th says that witnesses did hear gunfire attributed to rounds cooking off but i cant really find a reliable source for it

>changes court date without informing him

Wasn't his court date "conveniently" changed? Like, I think the Koresh deserved jail time, but Ruby Ridge just sounds fucked up

his court date was changed to a LATER date. why didn't he show up for the initial date? he didn't. because he never had any intention of going.

yeah, it is

well that certainly justifies killing them all. case closed

k i'll play this little game

so i'm assuming you believe they are the ones that started the fire? correct? it was their intention to start the fires and get rid of all the evidence and all the people. ok. why are there survivors then? why didn't they execute the survivors when they ran out of the fire? how do you explain that?

That song was pretty good.

all of your justifications and apologia for the state's actions rests on a single non-argument: that the davidians broke some laws

you are a bootlicker, a coward, and a traitor

stop changing the subject. if they wanted to kill all of them, why didn't they execute them?

>wanted
whether they wanted to or not is irrelevant. the consequences of their actions were the same, and entirely predictable

so the evil gubament wasn't actually trying to kill anyone?

it doesn't matter

>hurr durr it doesn't matter if the davidians were doing something illegal because the gubmint didn't handle it perfectly

>after Ruby Ridge and Waco people still want gun control

Are they retarded or is there a cuckold gene that makes them want to bootlick?

Those events happened before most of those people were born to be fair

of course it matters, the big ebil gubament did not intend on killing any of them. the most you can accuse them of is stupidity and negligence. and this is all assuming the feds actually did start the fires, which isn't a fact, it's a choice to assume they did.

thanks I'll check it out

neither of those situations should be used in a gun control debate. ruby ridge should be used as an example for why you should show up to your fucking court date. waco should be used as an example for a debate about why you shouldn't join a cult that loves guns.

>listening to police scanner during Dorner
>police have him at a cabin
>clearly hear police say "burn that mother fucker down"
>hear another person say "torch it"
>cabin burns the fuck down
>news the next day say that "burners" are flash bangs
>it was totally an accident guys, no one said anything about burning the cabin down
>people tell me that what I really heard was "deploy burners", not "burn that mother fucker down"

what level of advanced autism is this?

>somebody is being a pedo? better call the ATF

That's real retarded, sir. The pedo shit was made up after things started getting fucked.

>The pedo shit was made up after things started getting fucked

yea, like the kids

Explain how this is autism? I heard on the police scanner "burn that mother fucker down", and then the media says that really wasn't said, it was a total accident.

So I don't see how it's retarded to believe that the police purposefully burned down the other compounds, and I certainly can't accept that it was an accident.

>all of your justifications and apologia for the state's actions rests on a single non-argument: that the davidians broke some laws
keep it up bootlicker

did anyone else think it was strange that they showed part of Ruby Ridge in the first episode but didn't bother to show the initial firefight and the son getting shot? I get the difficulty of portraying such a scene but it was weird that it was skipped over while they showed the wife's death in full detail

The best documentary by far on Waco, and one of the best ever made is
>Rules of Engagement
>10/10 smoldering in the night

It's all Fake; they only make made-for-tv movies about their fake psy-ops. It was all orchestrated by the gov for the achieved results.

that's just what the lizard people want you to believe

It's not a non argument faggot
You can't break the law and cry when people try to arrest you

b-b-but MUH GUNS

>impossible to prove
Watch Rules of Engagement, and then watch your mouth.