old thread Experts agree: White identity politics is on the rise, and it’s driven by diversity and expressed through Donald Trump. That’s what a study by two psychology academics found
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Why is White identity rising and how can we stop it, Sup Forums?
I AM NOT AN SJW KEK I SUPPORT TRUMP, BUT I BELIEVE THAT ALL RACES AND RELIGIONS NEED TO COME TOGETHER.
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>Many political commentators credit Donald Trump’s rise to white voters’ antipathy toward racial and ethnic minorities. However, we believe this focus on racial resentment obscures another important aspect of racial thinking.
>In a study of white Americans’ attitudes and candidate preferences, we found that Trump’s success reflects the rise of “white identity politics”—an attempt to protect the collective interests of white voters via the ballot box. Whereas racial prejudice refers to animosity toward other racial groups, white identity reflects a sense of connection to fellow white Americans.
>We’re not the first to tie Trump’s candidacy to white identity politics. But our data provide some of the clearest evidence that ongoing demographic changes in the United States are increasing white racial identity. White identity, in turn, is pushing white Americans to support Trump.
ANYONE WHO THINKS THIS IS A GOOD THING IS INSANE, THIS MEANS A HORRIBLE DIVIDED FUTURE
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>When we talk about white identity, we’re not referring to the alt-right fringe, the white nationalist movement, or others who espouse racist beliefs. Rather, we’re talking about everyday white Americans who, perhaps for the first time, are racially conscious.
>The concept of “garden variety” white racial identity stands in contrast to conventional wisdom. In the last three decades of scholarship on whiteness as a race, the prevailing view has been that most whites fail to notice their own whiteness. In a society dominated by white people, whiteness simply fades into the background. Just as fish fail to notice the water around them, whites are unlikely to think about how they are members of a distinct group.
>Our research shows that the era of “white invisibility” is coming to a close.
>Non-Hispanic whites are projected to become a minority in the year 2044. This increasing diversity across the country is making whites’ own race harder and harder to ignore. Political and social phenomena, from Barack Obama’s presidency to the Black Lives Matter movement, are making whiteness even more salient to white Americans.
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>As whites increasingly sense that their status in society is falling, white racial identity is becoming politicized. Trump’s promise to “make America great again” speaks to these anxieties by recalling a past in which white people dominated every aspect of politics and society. That’s why media outlets from New York Magazine to The National Review have dubbed Trump an “ethnonationalist” candidate.
>Hillary Clinton counters Trump’s exclusionary rhetoric with her message that all Americans are “Stronger Together.”
>To test our ideas about Trump and white identity politics, we surveyed a nationally representative sample of about 1,700 white Americans. The survey covered racial identities, attitudes, and political preferences. In examining the relationship between white identity and ethnic diversity, we chose to focus on an ethnic minority of particular salience in contemporary politics: Hispanics. More than any other group, Hispanics have been in the Trump campaign’s crosshairs.
>Do whites from heavily Hispanic neighborhoods show stronger white racial identity? To measure identity, we used a widely-used questionnaire. On a five-point scale, participants rated their agreement with items such as “Being a white person is an important part of how I see myself” and “I feel solidarity with other white people.” As shown in the graph below, there is a positive relationship between exposure to Hispanics and white respondents’ sense of racial identity.
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>And does white identity lead to support for Donald Trump? We examined the relationship between white identity and respondents’ likelihood of supporting Trump for the presidency versus Hillary Clinton or several Republican primary challengers. Consistent with others’ analyses, white identity strongly predicts a preference for Trump.
>Whites at the high end of the racial identity scale are more than four times as likely to support Trump than those at the low end of the scale. Perhaps that’s because whites highest in racial identity are also the ones most likely to harbor negative attitudes against Latinos. Indeed, we found white identity was significantly correlated with another characteristic—prejudice.
>However, differences in prejudice don’t explain the relationship between white identity and Trump support. The pattern in the figure above was tested while statistically controlling for levels of anti-Hispanic prejudice. Because the relationship between identity and support for Trump remains strong, we are confident that white identity independently predicts greater Trump support.
>when you b8'd so successfully in the first thread you go for another round.
sage
Thanks for wasting your time.
Didn't read a thing.
Go back to /r/politics
There are valid reasons to not want a tribalistic, divided society. I would say Donald Trump is fighting against that. However, it is inane to lecture white people, the least tribalistic race who aren't driving this trend towards racial segregation at all, about not becoming tribalistic..
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>We’ve seen that living close to Hispanics leads whites to develop a strong sense of racial identity and that strong racial identity is associated with support for Donald Trump. We should therefore expect that whites in heavily Hispanic neighborhoods support Trump more often than those in neighborhoods with fewer Hispanics. This prediction gains credence from work by political scientist Ryan Enos, who finds that everyday exposure to Latinos can increase support for restrictive immigration policies.
>Whites’ support for Donald Trump is, in fact, greatest in areas with a large Hispanic population.
>These findings leave open a crucial question: Do whites in heavily Hispanic neighborhoods support Trump because they tend to be high in white identity? Using a statistical approach called “mediation analysis,” we tested whether white identity accounted for the relationship between exposure to Hispanics and support for Trump. We found that identity does indeed serve as a significant link between Hispanic exposure and Trump support.
>Trump, despite his outsize importance as a candidate and symbol, will eventually fade from the political scene. We therefore sought to examine the interplay of demographics and identity beyond the context of his candidacy. Specifically, we asked respondents for their views on white identity politics itself.
This is a serious issue, troll. I already said I'm not anti White I just believe that collectivism is a dead end straight to war and conflict. Fuck that.
White identity is catching on because no only is identity politics as a whole becoming more prevalent, but so is anti-white rhetoric. It is mainstream now to label whites as racist for inane things. The SJW definition of racism where only whites can be racist is gaining mainstream acceptance. In this environment of course white identity is increasing.
We can all have our identities and still respect our differences. Donald Trump and the Hillary Clinton are old friends. But Donald is asking us to take what he is giving us, our pride and heritage. He is telling us to run with it and show others how to run. GET TO FUCKING SPACE we can just go our separate ways if it doesn't work.
The main reason multiculturalism is a failed experiment is because in an experiment you can't force results.
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>We had participants rate their agreement with a series of statements. For example: “There is nothing wrong with a white person choosing to support a political candidate because that candidate is white” and “Blacks, Latinos, and Asians engage in ‘identity politics,’ and there’s nothing wrong with whites doing the same.”
>Exactly the same patterns emerged for these questions as for Trump support: Endorsement of white identity politics was highest in heavily Hispanic neighborhoods and was strongly correlated with white racial identity. These results suggest that America’s growing ethnic diversity is creating a politicized form of white identity that has clear repercussions for future elections.
>Why does it matter that whites’ politics are driven by concerns about the interests of their racial group? It suggests that racial bias increasingly reflects attention to the welfare of one’s own group rather than animus toward other groups. These collective concerns are only going to become more pronounced as the nation becomes more diverse.
>Recent research in social psychology suggests that when whites engage in discrimination based on their perceived collective interests, it’s hard to convince them that such discrimination is wrong. After all, doesn’t every group have a right to prioritize its own members? We believe our results portend increasing difficulty in achieving the democratic aim of getting race out of American politics.
Two wrongs don't make a right. So basic, fuck.
>I BELIEVE THAT ALL RACES AND RELIGIONS NEED TO COME TOGETHER
not going to happen with the current state of mainstream media
Non-whites who are not anti-white are readily embraced by white society. Republican whites love minority republicans to the extent that it is obvious they give them attention and positions partially because they are non-white. You don't see this with other races. Blacks don't embrace their allies. They just ask more from them.
Let's watch you failing to address this argument once again, Gary:
>oy vey! how can we stop people from banding together based on race to defend themselves from attacks by other groups who band together based on race?
You don't. This is a built-in evolutionary strategy that requires extreme levels of indoctrination to neutralize. What kind of cretin are you to want to brainwash people into self-destructive behavior? The only ethical solution is to segregate.
> I BELIEVE THAT ALL RACES AND RELIGIONS NEED TO COME TOGETHER.
>COME TOGETHER.
we need to change that, though, tribalism weakens every human being
it's 2016, the time for war is fucking over, WE HAVE NUKES NOW
War is never worth it.
I support TRUMP. Not Gary Cuckson. I'm a rightwing libertarian, Gary is a left libertarian sellout who kisses up to SJWs constantly.
Fuck that, I'm a real libertarian.
This is genuinely strange b8 tbqh
>sage
White identity is being forced on whites. If everyone else is being not only tribalistic, but anti-white, whites have no choice but to do the same. If you want to stop this trend towards identity politics, you need to break up the Democratic party. It is using identity politics to build its base. If it falls apart, and identity politics is no longer an effective way to consolidate power, then the MSM will stop promoting it, and it will stop gaining so much traction. Lecturing whites in this environment is a waste of time.
So, yes, two wrongs don't make a right, but the only way to stop this from becoming the only option is to attack the other side.
>WE HAVE NUKES NOW
Good because if we are going to make it, we will have to burn Asia to the ground. There is no other way
You write emotional posts and repeatedly fail to address actual arguments. Why would a leftist pose as a libertarian?
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This is an important and interesting issue effecting us all. I am being polite. please be polite back to me. Asshole.
I am not hiding the fact that I'm emotional. I have nonwhite friends and I live in California. I would hate to see racial conflict overwhelm things. I just think the media is dividing us all and it's fucking tragic.
No more fucking war. Seriously, anyone who loves the idea of racewar is fucking insane.
This is a serious issue.
>I AM NOT AN SJW KEK I SUPPORT TRUMP, BUT I BELIEVE THAT ALL RACES AND RELIGIONS NEED TO COME TOGETHER.
> BUT I BELIEVE THAT ALL RACES AND RELIGIONS NEED TO COME TOGETHER.
That's where you arewrong you fucking nigger.
Ethnonationalism is the only true way.
Nation, tribe, people, bound by blood and shared culture, is the way to avoid unneeded strife. Mixing peoples and groups with radically different backgrounds and creeds, only breeds conflict and strife.
In my case, a Non-Finn will NEVER, EVER be my kin.
>100 new articles out every day pandering to minorities claiming they are victims
>thinking whites won't get fucking tired of welfare leeches asking for handouts
This isn't fucking rocket science user.
Put a dozen sane men into a room. They will talk with each other about everything except their own sanity. They will get into arrangements, with will break off into smaller groups based around shared interests.
Now add another dozen men into the room. But this second dozen are all insane.
Those first dozen will now reunify into a single group, and the only topic of discussion will be their sanity.
When you keep seeing filthy balding jews shit on your people every day I guess you get mad eventually.
Right it's aaaaaall the Jews fault. Look man I know there's a lot of nasty Jews but Jews are just people. You can't blame ALL Jews for what SOME did, that's the same reason BLM hates all Whites. Prejudice is fucked up!
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Liberals popularized identity politics and then expected Europeans to just voluntarily exclude themselves all together when almost every other ethnic/racial group works towards their own peoples interest. Leftist expectations, as always, are incredibly unrealistic.
Leftist shill confirmed. Keep ignoring the arguments. Maybe someone will become convinced if you keep it up.
“When everything about a people is for the time growing weak and ineffective, it begins to talk about efficiency. So it is that when a man's body is a wreck he begins, for the first time, to talk about health. Vigorous organisms talk not about their processes, but about their aims.”
GK Chesterton
I'm emotional but that doesn't make me wrong. Nice strawmanning.
>I would hate to see racial conflict overwhelm things
What the fuck do you think is happening you fucking retard, holy shit you are blind
ALL races should be SEPARATED
You SJW fag
Every time you turn on the TV you can't escape Jews talking shit about white people. Doesn't matter if it's CNN or some comedy show, they all do it.
are you Arabic or something?
this is sjw bait
I've already explained what does make you wrong and you have repeatedly failed to address it. Fuck off, leftist shill.
>I AM NOT AN SJW KEK I SUPPORT TRUMP, BUT I BELIEVE THAT ALL RACES AND RELIGIONS NEED TO COME TOGETHER.
You need to get gassed
>Why is White identity rising and how can we stop it, Sup Forums?
We need to fart in the gas chamber first.
NO it's a call to stop collectivist garbage that will just bring us all misery. Do you honestly want war and conflict? ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE?
I am not joking!
Fuck off CTR.
I was like you once. You need to face reality and not mold it. Altruism and apathy in the face danger from others is not magnanimous but cowardice.
Just lurk more, relax.
Yea just put a lid on the boiling pot dumb fag
Yeah, race war now tbqhwy.
>Stop collectivist garbage
>Wants all races and religions to come together
You deserve to be beat to death with a dictionary.
Thats usually what happens if a "elites", media and a huge amount of brainless idiots that believe them are teaches to demonize white people. When you have leftists campaigning for the end of white people (to the point of calling for kastration) lol what did they expect what would happen?! The same would happen with literally any other group of people too.
They can only hope they replace us fast enough before the rest also wakes up.
NO 1 collective humanity is not collectivism like I mean it. Fucking Romanian retard
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>NO 1 collective humanity is not collectivism like I mean it. Fucking Romanian retard
>1 Giant collective is not collectivism
Please tell me you are still in school kid, I want to believe your education system ain't that shit.
This is antiTrump shit to make Trump seem like a Nazi
When libertarians say collectivism we mean NATIONALISM / TRIBALISM not HUMANITY (one humanity philosophy)
not humanism*
I can believe in humanism and still support borders though. Just treat everyone the same
>When libertarians say collectivism we mean NATIONALISM / TRIBALISM not HUMANITY (one humanity philosophy)
Nigger do you undestand what Colective and Collectivism means you fucking retard:
> Collective: 1: denoting a number of persons or things considered as one group or whole
Please tell me this is b8, if not please tell me you got sterilized.
>all races and religions need to come together
Why should the one true church of Christ come together with every abominable false religion?
Sorry, but (((multiculturalism))) is an arm of (((globalism))), and it has to end for the future of every kind of unique group of people.
You have nothing to do with libertarianism, leftist shill.
I don't want GLOBAL ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT, but also CARING ONLY ABOUT YOUR LITTLE GROUP is shit.
I care about everyone who is innocent or in pain or being oppressed, including Whites who are treated like shit for being White.
We need to crush identity politics and bring back PRAGMATIC politics.
>I can believe in humanism and still support borders though. Just treat everyone the same
>Black nations for black people
>Nobody bats an eye
>Asian nations for asian people
>Nobody bats an eye
>White nation for white people
>YOU FILTHY FUCKING RACIST LITERALLY FUCKING HITLER
Libertarian my ass, or did you forget the freedom of free association?
Libertarianism=/=Gary Johnson, idiot
Why are you trying to make Libertarians look bad? I guess you're getting (You)'s but I don't think anyone is really taking you seriously.
I've lived in Brooklyn and Sf for 4 years while doing my phd and postdoc.
I've never understood why the Americans are so obsessed with race, both nogs and whities. Brazilians and other mixed countries are not
I also refuse to get this whole white bullshit. I am not the same as burgers or crauts or britbongs ir even choholes. My grandgrandparents were dukes from rurikovich and gedeminovich + some greek merchants. My parents and grandparents - all scientists and engineers who were quite cosmopolitan soviet people . But i am a Russian culturally.
Races need to come together...IDIOT HAVE YOU LEARNED NOTHING! Diversity is only in white countries. Is africa, arabia, or asia diverse? Fuck you OP, stop believing what the Jews say
I believe in freedom of association, just... it should be discouraged in a country like America. Going back to the 1950s is an insane pipedream and won't work.
>We need to crush identity politics and bring back PRAGMATIC politics.
My people, my nation now fuck off! Is as pragmatic as it gets, and the norm for most of human history till the last decade in the west. Especially when nationality is linked to ethnicity which has proof in genetics for existing.
>Going back to the 1950s is an insane pipedream and won't work.
You could just send all the blacks to Liberia. It would not be the first time somebody does something like that.
>posts emotional drivel
>repeatedly refuses to address actual arguments
>look guise i'm so libertarian! look at how libertarian i am! let me tell you what we libertarians think! i'm libertarian! honest guise! by the way, all races are equal and we should all get together in a big multikulti society
Fuck off, leftist shill.
This Jew is right..we need more jews like this one
Exactly. Fuck racism. I don't care if Russians are the same race as me, I still hate them for being totalitarian idiots who seem desperate to have a new Tsar in Putin.
When your house is old and creaky, and needs some serious repair so as not to crumble down, what's more important ? Solidifying and strenghtening the foundations, or making sure there is electricity in every room ?
Think about it for a goddamn second.. or don't, let the piece of shit collapse for all I care
Diversity is an American construct which is based on their indocrinated racism which was created by eternal anglo in the 19th century specifically to destroy the USA. Always cheat, always win.
Only Anglo autism could spawn such idiocy on display ITT.
>we need to make the world safe for libertarianism and fight tribalism so that people are just atomized numale faggots consuming whatever new gizmo comes out at the end of year in time for Chri- I mean Hannukah.
Every time I see a Libertarian trying to explain his autistic theory, and worry about "creeping tribalism" I weep for the West.
It's a scientific fact that races aren't equal in IQ, but IQ has a significant effect on an individual's productivity in a meritocratic society i.e. their income. As a "libertarian", how can you stand for flooding a society with the sort of people who tend to vote for bigger government to make things "fair" for them?
racism is wrong NO MATTER WHO CAME UP WITH THE IDEA.
Judge people as individuals not as group members.
AND THERE IT IS.
>lets fight Russia because they don't share out fag values about MUH FREE MARKETS
You are no brother of mine either, you pozzed faggot.
It's a scientific fact that races aren't equal in IQ, but IQ has a significant effect on an individual's productivity in a meritocratic society i.e. their income. As a "libertarian", how can you stand for flooding a society with the sort of people who tend to vote for bigger government to make things "fair" for them?
What do ya know... Shout down white folk enough and they galvanize.
The building block of society is not the individual, but the interaction between at least two individuals.
Libertarianism is a false god, and you will repent before the end.
>I BELIEVE THAT ALL RACES AND RELIGIONS NEED TO COME TOGETHER.
Then stop them from invading white lands. Because immigration only produces conflict. People naturally want to live among people who are like them, so immigrants self-segregate (see map) and established populations do the same. Political and economic factors also contribute to self-segregation. Races are not equal and interchangeable. Some are more intelligent than others. Some races will always end up at the top, some at the bottom. Some races will end up richer, some poorer. This ensures racially charged politics till the end of time. And of course the left will exploit it for every last vote. Of course all this is only happening in white countries, because mass immigration is being pushed by people who hate whites and want to destroy us. The only way to fight it is for whites to start working as a team. If we don't, the race will die. No other race is facing this issue on earth.
I fucking hate Russia but I am against fighting it. You guys need to start becoming more pro-freedom and stop supporting huge governments and dictators. That's all I'm saying. I fucking hate that I'm connected to you people just for being White.
I don't care if we share a bunch of the same genetics, I still hate Russians for their stupid culture. You fucked over a lot of people for a long time.
I'm anti war but I still think Russia sucks dick.
You can come together and still be proud of who you are and where you come from.
I'm right libertarian not left libertarian. I'm against open borders.
Because it dawned on us the rest of you cucks haven't done shit for culture while simultaneously degrading the quality of life in society.
Vasya, you're drunk again if you think this is an argument. Please think of your poor liver.
Lol achi, it is your problem. You bring some Sephardic and mizrahi scum just because they are muh Jewish race brothers and eventually will end up in a third world shithole like syria.
>I BELIEVE THAT ALL RACES AND RELIGIONS NEED TO COME TOGETHER
>I'm against open borders.
Pick one.
We dont have to become anything for you.
We will outlive you.
Stop trying to spread your shit values on the rest of the world.
You are the world cancer, spreading consumerism, atomisation and globalism wherever you go.
Fuck your gay nigger president too.
This is a board for goys, shlomo.
>You bring some Sephardic and mizrahi scum
I had no say in that, you stupid fuck. Not an argument.
Come and shoa me then, Boris. Either way, not an argument.
I meant IN AMERICA not GET RID OF ALL NATION STATES
Russia will become more liberal like everywhere. Dude, it's natural and healthy. Liberalism means less pain in the ass and more peace. Wars are always started by overly patriotic ultraconservative type governments.
Human life is too precious, war is fucking shit.
Why are you ID hopping, Kike?
So are they different race than Ashkenazim in your opinion or judgment st different culture but same race?
Just be racist. Who cares. It's not wrong. It's just identity. We're not asking anyone to be obnoxious about it. Just recognise that we are white and there's nothing wrong with that. To be honest, YOU are the one who's racist. Just another anti-white racist. Every word you say makes people more resistant and MORE likely to be obnoxiously racist. YOU'RE ATTACKING US BASED ON OUR RACE. YOU ARE RACIST AND MAKING RACIAL TENSION WORSE.
Or just different culture
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>Two wrongs don't make a right. So basic, fuck.
Rising white identity politics is a reaction to the minorities refusing to drop their tribalistic behavior.
There is no reason to continue playing the good goy who gets fucked in the ass at every turn when there is zero advantage to it.
>IN AMERICA
IQ still works the same way IN AMERICA. You did not address the argument.
>Why are you ID hopping, Kike?
To make it harder for you to come and shoa me, Alexei.
I'm not anti White or an SJW. Also I support Trump. I just believe in not being extreme. Like just because I reject leftwing extreme anti White-ism doesn't mean I have to become some kind of a White pride person.
That's all I'm saying. Peace.
There is literally nothing natural about Liberalism.
It is a religion, just like any other, based on no sound evidence, only belief.
Here are your sacred tenants:
Race creationism
Tabula rasa
Universal values
Equality
None of these things are found in nature and all scientific evidence we have points to them being false beliefs.
Genes matter.
Hierarchy is natural.
Tribalism is healthy.
Nature abhors equality.
I believe that in the uk pajeet and Matthew from top middle class share much more of identity with each other than with some plebs of their race.
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