How do we fix this shit?

how do we fix this shit?

>how do we fix this shit?

Bring back slavery, and take away women, and niggers rite to vote!

stop letting chinks work there

elect a fucking turtle to PM
it'll be better than turnbull

goldman sachs cunt

>Hidden Unemployed

Whats this mean?

>Turtle
Jeb confirmed for fixing this shit

Cut corporate taxes and remove regulations. Nobody wants to open a factory where labor costs orders of magnitude more for the same job so you need to make it easier for businesses to keep what they make otherwise they'll just make their shit in Indonesia and run the whole show from Singapore.

not active on the labour market but should be counted as unemployed. but they dont do that to keep the numbers up

/thread

tell the liberals to stop bringing in pooinloos to do technical jobs or work as doctors

tell labour to stop bringing in fugees to take working class jobs

tell both to get rid of welfare and lower taxes (liberals want to get rid of welfare without lowering taxes)

>tell both to get rid of welfare

Wew lad, let's not go too far.

>tell both to get rid of welfare and lower taxes (liberals want to get rid of welfare without lowering taxes)

Terrible idea. Tax probably should be raised a little bit, and welfare brought up to the same level as minimum wage, also more social housing is needed.

Fuck of neet

If there are more unemployed than vacancies, then why are there so many fucking vacancies where I live?

Is there meant to be;

>Cool jobs I like with easy hours, high pay and little effort required

asterix affixed or something?

Up to 1980, the western nations were commited to full employment, as there always was a communist alternative around the corner, promising exactly that.

Central banks and governments supplied the system with money to stabilize the actual (!) unemployment at rates below 5%. This resulted in high inflation.

After 1980, as inflation reached critical levels due to oil price shocks, central banks changed their monetary policies to inflation control.

This resulted in a Non-Accelerating Inflation Rate of Unemployment (NAIRU) of around 10%. Even in Germany, the actual rate of unemployment is around 8,5%.

To insure full employment today, governments would need to spend much more. This would result in the high inflation of the 1950-1980s era, which is not an option in an era of tight global competition, where nations try to keep inflation low.

tl;dr: there cannot be full employment with current monetary and fiscal policies.

Bad idea imo

Welfare is enough to sustain a decent enough life, people try to raise families or support lavish lifestyles on it

Raising it will just increase the frivolous spending of the recievers

I want to know where you are going to find Americans or Australians who will work 40 hours a week for 20 dollars.

Please, tell me.

That's 40 hours a week, for enough to cover two lunches.

You're a halfwit.

Stop importing foreigners for work when there are more than enough natives who can do it.
Reinstall tariffs so companies cannot abuse different standards of living by having their production and sales in different countries respectively.
Try to reverse the integration of women into the market. How the shit did they even let themselves get tricked into doing mind numbing 9-5 cubicle jobs instead or taking care of the home and raising kids, which is biologically hardwired into them?

Get rid of that fucking mouse cursor.

found the retarded nation wrecker

>$265 a week is enough to sustain a decent life

lel

A lot of the jobs are ones that aren't really getting filled. You probably live in an area with a low unemployment rate as well

I see hundreds of jobs advertised in my area with youth unemployment at 22%

I think a reason for it is labour hire companies advertising to join a pool and high end job that are already filled but hr needs to advertise them to appease someone

Aviation was a mistake

t. Turnbull

This.

That shit doesn't work in the long run. You cannot keep producing in one country for cheap and then sell it over value in another. Or maybe it would work if you are the only one doing it, but when the whole fucking industry moves elsewhere your customers don't earn any further money to pay for your stuff.
The only reason it worked for so "long" is because we burned through our wealth and accumulated insane amounts of debt in exchange.

But it is never going to last.

I do live in a low unemployment area. Although as my ice addict welfare receiving neighbors upstairs blasting music can attest to, there are unemployed people around here.

And there are a ton of vacancies. Full time too. They're just shit jobs.

It's easier to sit on your ass on the crack pipe or punching cones and playing vidya all night and sleeping all day and letting the government pay for it, then getting off your ass and working at a job that sucks, to most people.

where do u fucking live must contain a high boong population
tassie atm has fuck all job's and im qualified mechanical engineer

Yeah, there are many positions that are either for 457 workers or for internal transfers that require them to advertise externally regardless of their intent.

For 457 positions they'll typically have bizarre requirements to fob off the locals and so they may tick the box claiming they attempted to source someone nearby.

When you are living in a housing commission unit it is

The dole shouldn't be used to raise a family, own a newish carl drink and smoke regularly or live in an expensive piece of real estate

$100 a week renting a room
$70 for food
$30 petrol
And $60 to spend on what ever you want, seems fair enough to me

Stop letting in Africa and the whole of Europe.

You guys threw the anglosphere and the commonwealth under the bus for the EU.
Watch the UK is like watching a drug addict sometimes.

>juz cut taxes bro
>ignore that they'll work for $2 a day in China
>the business will open shop in western Sydney where the minimum wage is about $20
>they'll still make less manufacturing in Sydney versus China but at least the tax is lower bra

t. cuckonimist

it's not really possibly to quantify/aggregate the actual number of job vacancies. That's most likely a number based on advertised jobs, when the majority of jobs are acquired with advertising.

That's what has me stumped.

Globalization has meant cheap goods.

But if you don't have consumers to buy the cheap goods, what do you do? Increase lines of credit?

Then what? rely on the governments to bail out the banks who have run out of credit to give?

While it's great that an Indonesian has gone from living like a stone age peasant to merely a deeply impoverish and third world peasant, all you have done is reduce a first world working class prole to the welfare class.

The system seems...shaky.

Of course it is. I've had some experiences when the jobs are so shit and pay so little thay most people won't work it, because of the droves of kids on the dole and actaully looking for work they never have to make the pay or conditions better

>Tassie

You 100% cannot complain or whinge about being unemployed if you live in Tasmania.

That's no different than complaining about being unemployed because you refuse to work.

I left Tasmania to move to Sydney specifically to work.

Anyone who lives in a rural area or a state like South Australia or Tasmania and complains about unemployment (and is collecting welfare) is a parasite. Sorry.

>to take working class jobs
>implying they work

something like 90% of Afghan refugees are unemployed after a decade of being here.

Australia is a bureaucratic shit-hole, we need to cut regulations and lower taxes, fact is, businesses tend to do a lot better when the government is taking a large chunk of their profit and telling people how they should or shouldn't run their business.
Turnbull is effectively a Hillary Clinton who is tough on illegal immigration, he is an Authoritarian Statist and a cuck.

>The system seems...shaky.
They don't care though because or whole system is focused on short term gains. Their reasoning is that there will always be a rich country and if they fucked one of them up beyond repair they'll just move on to the next.
After all, it's only really the ones who cannot afford to relocate who get fucked by this.

>Finally get a job as a Christmas casual
>Letter comes in the mail telling me I need to do jury duty for 4 weeks in December

How the fuck do I get out of this shit? Will telling them that I'm only a casual on a fixed term contract be a good enough excuse? I fucking hate my life.

My ground floor unit costs 540 dollars a week.

The COUPLE upstairs, in the slightly nicer apartment, pay nothing (it's government subsidized as all the nearby housing commission units are full). They pay no bills, no internet.

They spend all day drinking and smoking Ice.

The girl is legitimately mentally disabled, the guy is just a repeat criminal who has never had a job (or attempted to find one) a day in his life.

What a great country.

This glorious red bitch is a solid start. Send them all back!!

It requires an ever shrinking pool of consumers to consumer individually ever increasing amounts.

They need to breed rich people physically bigger and requiring more fuel to sustain, and make them live much longer.

>where I live?
Are you retarded. where you live is not all of Australia.

I live in Perth which has taken over from Tasmania for having the worst economy due to the collapse in the resources sector. In my suburb which is the worst hit there is multiple houses for sale. On every street which is kinda funny I suppose.

If I could get a full time IT job I would be taking advantage of this but been unemployed for a few months now. To make matters worse center link has taken months to process my student claim so I have no savings left to up and move to another city for work.

Straight up let it be known that if the defendant is a nigger, chink, kike, raghead, or abo you're gonna vote guilty.

it's pretty easy. They usually accept the work excuse. If worse comes to worse at the jury duty interview act kind of crazy and/or racist.

I'm pretty sure that will only piss the judge off and get me done for contempt of court. I need a serious answer.

So essentially we are doomed unless a full blown World War occurs?

If you live in Perth or Tasmania you literally can't complain.

See my comment above.

If you're such a deadshit loser that you're too lazy to get off your ass and leave a state like Tasmania, how the fuck do you think you have the right to complain about being unemployed?

This is like an obese faggot who doesn't wash complaining a victoria's secret model won't sleep with him.

I left Tasmania at 17 to move to Sydney with about 400 dollars. Spent about a week on my cousins couch not paying rent until I had a job, and then about a year later moved into my own apartment.

If your parents won't spot you a grand to move to Sydney (or at least Melbourne) so you can get by, they are pieces of shit and human garbage.

you don't go straight to the trial. You get screened before you are actually made a member of the jury.

The one time I had Jury Duty I showed up in thongs, a dirty T shirt, dirty jeans and unkept hair. I was insolent and generally apathetic during the whole thing.

The defendant's legal team pulled me out of selection. It's not hard. There will be plenty of well dressed and eager senior citizens there. Just look and act (within reason) like shit.

im gay

You're a flog and a half

>It's a rent Serf telling everyone else how to live

Yeah bra just move to Sydney so you can spend all your money on rent!

You'd have been better off making fuckall on the dole in Tassie and saving a few years to start a small business.

How is renting pragmatic or economically reasoned when you have an alternative?

this

In Sydney I know plenty of literal retards who easily get jobs.

>They usually accept the work excuse.
I hope so. I called the court today and she told me to get a letter from my employer but she couldn't say whether it will be accepted. I'm in NSW for what it's worth.

Screened by whom?

Just be happy you arent in SA which is hemorrhaging money whilst conversely having the worst employment in the country.

The only way we come close to making money is selling off real valuable profit earning assets to the private sector

>tfw rich parents
>dad moved to Europe and now my brother and I live in big comfy house in inner Sydney rent free.

our whole economic system is built on a lot of unsustainable shit. we have the choice to either dial back our consumption a bit and try to fix it voluntarily or wait for the inevitable collapse.

seeing how people shit their pants in rage when you suggest that maybe they don't need the newest iPhone every year when they only ever used 10% of their old phone's capacity anyway I doubt we will go for the voluntary solution.

>Yeah brah! You're a slave to the system man!

>I just leech off your taxes like a bum!

So what are you fucking complaining about?

>Save on the dole
>Start a small business
>In Tasmania

Aside from the fact that I don't pay rent, I marvel at the logic you're displaying here, and I'm not surprised you're unemployed.

>pragmatism

How is it pragmatic to whinge that you're unemployed, while refusing to work?

>Alternative

If you're happy being unemployed, why are you even in this thread complaining?

No.

Central banks around the world would need to give up upon inflation control and become commited to full employment again.

This was easy to achieve 1950-1980, since all the relevant nations were USA serfs and followed the policies.

Today, you would need China, India, Latin America, East Europe, and, most important of all, the global financial elites to agree upon a worker-friendly policy.

Of course, this is a far-fetched proposal.

>i pay rent
>i dont pay rent

k fag, enough of your shit

Lel, I've also read people saying to show up in a suit because the defence looks for average joes who can be easily manipulated.

But I don't even want to go to the fucking court in the first place. I hope they just accept my work excuse. I was so looking forward to starting work then this shit comes. Far out.

Discouraged workers. No job and not looking for work.

Unemployed only refers to people looking for a job.

I think it's a six month buffer to be considered discouraged.

Our sky high minimum wage has to go, it's killed small business, unskilled shit kicking cunts don't deserve $22 ph

I talked about it above.

I'm in NSW too.

You go to the court. Line up with everyone else and give a letter or make an excuse or check in.

Then you sit around a waiting room like the RTA and watch a video on the court proceedings until you're called.

Then you and a bunch of other folks get a tour of the court and they explain your potential duties to you.

Then you go to the court room for your actual case, and the judge explains more shit, and then they show you the defendant and talk about his charge etc. If you know the guy or anyone involved in the case you say so and you get dismissed.

Then they get you up to the jury box and the prosecutor and defense counsel get to yay or nay you.

I got nayed by the defense and that was that. Picked up my check and went home.

Too far? welfare is one of the fucking worst things about this country. One full day of my work every few weeks goes to support some shitstain waste of space so he can by weed, smokes and booze and breed like a rabbit with subhumans. Worst thing is I work in a housing trust area and i can smell the fucking weed wafting over the fence while i work to support them. Fuck them let them starve. You don't work you don't eat. Heil Hitler

You could try telling them you already booked a holiday and paid the expenses?

>I literally can't read

I don't pay rent you dumb fuck. With your complete inability to comprehend the english language despite being born and raised in an english speaking country, are you surprised you're a fucking unemployed leech?

The fucking Poo's have more common sense, work ethic and understanding of the language than you do.

You have to go to the court regardless, and the line up and waiting room (where you present your excuse and wait while they vet it) is the most boring part.

Why don't you Strayans just pay people to hunt/remove cane toads?

>Protect property prices with fucked up policy
>Most mortgagees cannot afford any spending
>Consumer spending drops to fuckall
>Small businesses dont do any businesses
>Banks make RECORD PROFITS EVERY YEAR FOR YEARS

But yeah nah its the minimum wage that's doing small businesses in

Make it $5 p/h and they'll still go and pour it into a mortgage on a $1.1m 2br flat in Granville and none for the small business owner

>If you live in Perth or Tasmania you literally can't complain.
Yes I can.

>Spent about a week on my cousins couch not paying rent until I had a job.
What would of happend if you had no cousin and or didn't get a job for a few weeks or months even?

and if you have no contacts in another city you will need a few grand wont you. I'm considering moving to another city but I cant until I get back paid from centerlink.

That being said I am too "lazy" to work at maccas considering I have skills and experience that mean I can work elsewhere for 2-3x the pay.

Good point, although I find that people are already doing so here.

>central banks and global financial elites
>worker-friendly policy

kek, yes that is very far-fetched!

Minimum wage is 17.70 an hour. Which isn't much. You make it lower, it's easier to go on the dole.

m8, don't be a dick - One of these welfare recipients is going to use his wage to start a small business in Tasmania, and then he can hire dozens of people and get them off welfare for good.

You can apply to be excused online, so hopefully I won't even need to come on the day at all.

You have to provide proof. I think the fact that I'm only a Christmas casual on a fixed term contract will be good enough, but who knows.

They do...

You're scum. Anyone who is too lazy to work should be dead

>inner sydney
kill yourself you yuppie cuck

>I left Tasmania at 17 to move to Sydney with about 400 dollars. Spent about a week on my cousins couch not paying rent until I had a job, and then about a year later moved into my own apartment.

yeah cunt im meant to be a mind reader and extrapolate from that that you dont rent

eat a dick you paranoid retard. bootlickers like you are good in sydney because you're a yes man. we could always do with a set of hands that loves to work for someone else.

Cane toads are the perfect example of government multicultural ideals.

>Brought in to eat insects, that are destroying crops.

>Turns out they don't eat the insects they were supposed to.

>Instead they cause disruption of the natural food chain / death of predators that try and eat them.

>Cause more problems than the original insect issue.

>Breed out of control.

I would have done what I did when I moved to Brisbane.

Spent a couple of nights in a bus station and about 3 weeks in a hostel, a couple of months in "affordable housing" (basically a halfway house for drunks and other people right on the edge of falling into the homeless/public housing trap) then another couple of months in a caravan park until I got a live-in job out near Roma.

>You'll need a few grand

Not really. Depends how tough you're willing to do it.

Both times I had a few hundred bucks.

Ask your parents for a loan. Sell a car if you have one.

>That being said I'm too lazy to work

I mean, you flat out say it.

You could get together a few grand to move, but you don't want to. You refuse to work.

Because you're lazy and a parasite.

I don't give a fuck really, because you're at least not a fucking junkie trying to hop my fence or break into my car.

But there's no point in complaining about something you refuse to rectify.

This. Welfare needs to go, you are basically subsidising the lower end of the bell-curve. These low iq people then have more resources to breed more while middle and upper class people have less, therefore middle/upper class people have to work more and put off having children. So plebs having more kids and the middle/upper classes having less,this causes a gradual drop in IQ. Western countries are going to end up looking like Brazil.

>While refusing to work

Are you illiterate or just quoting the wrong post?

Are you honestly retarded?

>at
>until
>had

Past tense you illiterate hillbilly idiot.

I do not pay rent now because I own my own unit.

At the time I did pay rent.

Do you not understand basic concepts like time?

>bootlickers

This might carry some weight if you weren't solely dependent on handouts from me and other bootlickers to live.

You're good in Tasmania, where you live like a boong or a nigger on welfare because you're too lazy to get a job and have no self respect or dignity.

I suspect it means that the statistics as reported by the ABS are often bullshit. A person can be considered 'employed' even if they work 1 hour a week so it skews the stats.

>kek, yes that is very far-fetched!

It depends on the political will.
Back in the day, you had true left-wing parties, which opposed immigration and inflation control.

You also had commies that could stir up turmoil if they saw that labour is unsatisfied with capitalism.

Today, as capitalism is global and universally accepted, labour is completely left to the mercy of the financial system.

Automation will make this more and more common. How to fix?

A) UBI payed for with an increase in corporation tax and top level tax

B) Public works (job guarantee) programme aiming for full employment. Aus is massive and hugely underdeveloped. This would work for a bit but would again require funding, be it government debt or increased taxes.

C) Wealth tax and/or rules about CEO's maximum wage vs employee, to pay for increased bennies

D) violent revolution. Eat the bankers, gulag the capitalists. ie

GAS THE RICH
CLASS WAR NOW

take your pick.

This. At the very least people on welfare should be completely prohibited from breeding.

Like wise they shouldn't get paid in cash. Just an EFT card that only works for rent and basic groceries.

Can't be used to purchase alcohol, cigarettes or withdraw cash.

who qld masterrace here?

WW3

We don't

Poor gen y and whoever comes after z we are all fucked

There should be a stipulation of random drug testing for people on government benefits. If you test positive to illegal substances, your out on your arse.

By removing any commie Labor supporter from their employment and shipping them to china where they would feel better suited.

Because you're lazy and a parasite.
No I've still worked and payed taxes.

>You could get together a few grand to move, but you don't want to. You refuse to work.
Yeah or I can wait for my back payment

>Ask your parents for a loan.
Not an option they cannot afford it.

Your complaining that people make use of social services like they were designed to be used. We can all agree that people that abuse the system are fucked mate.

There is a family in Melbourne who has 1 husband, 4 wives and 18 kids. Wonder how much government money they get a week??

Just bomb hellbourne

Mate do you know the predominant mentality in tassie?
They literally have 3 generations of unemployed families there.
I wish someone would release Ebola down there and wipe the sacks of shit out. No-one with a brain remains in tassie.

Or we could send them to whichever faggotville you're from

Why would anyone work for minimum wage then you dumb cunt.

Then the tax base shrinks and we go into massive debt.

Repeal your obscene minimum wage, or at the very least reduce it to something reasonable for the work being done.

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