Porn is pure degeneracy in digital form. Do your part to keep Sup Forums clean by reporting it wherever possible, especially in OP's. Report, report, report. Keep our board degeneracy-free.
3. If you give in, then make the next Wednesday or Friday a day of no food whatsoever, and no drink save water. If fall again, then make both the next Wednesday and Friday days of no food at all, just water. Keep following this if you keep falling, eventually you will overcome.
I agree about the degeneracy. The proliferation of porn is why this whole world is full of traps and cucks and furries andhomos and gay rights and all this other bullshit.
Anyone ever notice that all of this fringey crazy sex crap wasn't even a "thing" until the internet came along and started making it "normal?"
OP is right. Porn is a curse.
But OP... why the hell are you here? This is Satan's second favorite website and 99.9% of the people here are porn addicts, degenerates, and deplorables. You get that, right?
John Powell
Mark 2:17
Xavier Martin
tl;dr
Brandon Stewart
Porn's awesome brah, the fuck is wrong with you?
Carson Sullivan
>awesome >brah _donald/ you heretic
Daniel Carter
Jesus said to them, "Those who are well do not need a physician, but those who are sick. I have come not to call the righteous, but sinners."
Mark 2:17
Colton Walker
Been here since 2006.
Zachary Ortiz
>Been here since 2016
FTFY
Tyler Morris
I would go much further: Forget the truely degenerate crap. Porn teaches that sex without restraint is great. Instead of taking place only within the marriage as intended originally, it teaches that it can take place between two (or more) people no matter who they are. Sure the homo/trans whatever degeneracy is more striking, but the mass of todays degeneracy is plain old heterosexual adultery and fornication.
Having the "punishment" this far in the future will not help your subconcious assosciate it with discomfort. Do a little tedious ritual as soon as you are done with porn instead of days afterwards. Could be a cold shower, could be gargling (but not swallowing) a liquid that does not taste good or doing 50 pushups.
Nathaniel White
Important question. Not trying to be crass. But what's the official word on masturbation (without porn)? You know... just to relieve the pressure.
John Phillips
I'm drunk, thanks french bro.
Jonathan Butler
The bible does not mention it directly. It does however make clear that sexual relationships should occur between marriage mates only. Masturbation does not take off the pressure in the long term, it only furthers the habit of masturbation. Most religions consider masturbation to be at least an impurity, though not a grave sin such as fornication or adultery.
Luis Sanchez
more about the bibles oppinion on pornography and related subjects:
Larpers gonna larp, but it's cringey as fuck. Go fuck yourself, newfaggot cancer. Only children and mentally deficient have imaginary friends.
Noah Lee
Jacking off isn't degenerate. Get the fuck over it.
Julian Walker
But jacking off to porn is
Chase Lee
A visual aid makes it bad?
Aaron Young
Why not just give it the ol' snip snip and be done with it once and for all?
> If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body > than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. > It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to depart into hell. > Matt. 5:29-30
Kevin Bailey
The visual aid IS the bad
Evan Davis
This is meant as a hyperbole. Jesus was quite fond of using them to make sure his points were understood. One application of "gouging it out and throwing it away" would be to completely avoid any websites where there is also pornography (but not only) to avoid stubmbling. Or not switching on the computer after a certain time in the evening where you know to be weak to temptations, even if it means forefeigting a good time playing videogames.
Cooper Rogers
Yeah just cut off your dick for satisfying sexual urges with digital videos or pictures rather than the other million infinitely more damaging things you can do to satisfy those urges.
Look whatever moral viewpoint you have against masturbation, at least that person isn't raping someone, or fucking out of wedlock or whatever other shit you perceive as worse.
Hell I would give a round of applause to some pedo who just looks at CP instead of abducting, raping, and the subsequently murdering some kid to satiate themselves.
Its the lesser of many, many, many evils.
So shut the fuck up.
James Brooks
I'm a porn addict. Always have been since my dick first got hard. Though now after nearly 2 decades I do see it as degenerate and a source of guilt. My life has sometimes revolved around "if i get to watch porn" I have lost relationships due to "watching too much porn". I do want out. If Trump wins I'm done with being a degenerate. If Hillary wins I'll continue to fap away and drink and hopefully die in my sleep sometime soon.
Chase Morales
>some old ass dusty fairy tail book told me I shouldn't jerk off to porn
whatever kiddo, I'll continue to fap to what I please
Chase Rivera
UhOh... Jehovah's Witness alert.
I studied JW very carefully.
Couldn't get past all the false "End of the World" prophecies and blatant con jobs perpetuated by its founders. The little old ladies who come by my house from time to time are nice enough, but the hierarchy of the JW organization are just as corrupt as the Catholics, Mormons, and Masons.
Justin Allen
>If Trump wins I'm done with being a degenerate. You are so pathetic it's astonishing. You really base your life on Trump's presidency? >I have lost relationships due to "watching too much porn". That is because you are an idiot. I'm married. You know why? Because I was honest with my wife when we first started dating. I told her who I was, I told her my past, and you should have as well. She knows I watch porn, she knows I watch raunchy disgusting taboo as fuck dirty shit, and she accepts it. You know why? Because she loves me. If someone dumps you over who you are, they do not love you. And if they do not know who you are then you have no one to blame but yourself for not making them aware of it.
Ryan Murphy
>orthodox
fuck off heretic.
Adam Martin
Why didn't jesus specifically mention internet porn? You believe this shit , yet ignore what it actually says. Cut your fucking eyes out . Jesus seems pretty fucking clear yet you change it to mean something else. This is god you are arguing against, saying you know better than god, like he was an idiot and couldn't just phrase what he meant properly without you and a lot of other imperfect humans to decide what it 'really' means.
Live by your fucking book if you really believe it.
Anthony Roberts
Is this porn?
Chase James
Calm down dude. I'm not saying YOU should do it. Or anyone else. I'm making a rhetorical point. It is a stumbling block for many who adhere to the Bible. What do you do with passages like that? So many say that we should read the Bible literally, and then when they hit a section like that, they say, "oh no.... that was just a figure of speech."
I believe the Bible. And have for a long time. But to this day I don't have a perfect answer for some doctrinal questions like this.
I like to jerk it as much as anyone. And sometimes I literally can't think about anything else until I release the pressure. But I feel deep down that it is sinful. So what's a non-married guy to do? If he's not married then by most conservative teachings, he has no "Biblical" way to handle it.
Angel Smith
You are cucking yourself. Christfags literally cuck themselves. If you want to be punished for masturbating just do BDSM. I don't know when Sup Forums became /deadjewonastick/
Joseph Richardson
But what If I fap to white kino?
Ayden Morales
>con jobs I have been a JW since 2001 and so far I have not noticed any cons jobs going on. Quite on the contrary, there are not church taxes (a thing here in Europe), no collectings, all donations are voluntary and all publications are 100% free. This is much more that what I saw with other religions.
>end of the world We live in the "end times" as the bible calls them. There is no denying that. However the bible also says that "no one knows the exact hour, neither the sons nor the angels, only the father". Some, even JWs thought themselves to be smarter than that and started speculating when exactly the end would come, only to be dissapointed.
The coherence and wisdom found in the bible is beyond any other religious book, much less a fairy tale book. Of course many lies have been written about the bible, particularly from those calling themselves christians. It is a good idea to read and study it for yourself and see if this is true. I recommend getting an accurate yet easy to read tranlation first (this rules out the King James version). There is the "New Geneva Bible" which is nice and, if you dont mid the "translated by a sect" label, the "New World translation" from 2013 which is very accurate while still being written in modern endlish.
Of course masturbation is less bad than fornication or even moreso rape. Nonetheless it is better to not do it at all.
When Jesus said "I am the way" did stones suddenly sprout from his body? Or when he said "I am the good vineyard" did he suddenly pluck grapes from his hair? The goal of any serious bible study is to find out what is meant literally and what is meant symbolically.
Oliver Lewis
you wife doesnt love you, she loves you conditionally*
Brayden Price
Stop watching porn and masturbating..
Ayden Hall
I bet OP has loads of porn on his comp. These anti porn types are always the biggest connoisseurs.
Benjamin Murphy
>she accepted her meal ticket
Joseph Martinez
>Anyone ever notice that all of this fringey crazy sex crap wasn't even a "thing" until the internet came along and started making it "normal?"
t. Sheltered American
porn has been around since cave paintings m8
Benjamin Reed
These 'moral' fags are usually the biggest hypocrites.
David Evans
This. People who give control over their sexuality to some abstract ideal are 100% sheep. It's your body, its your life.
Noah Smith
OP abandoned thread a long time ago.
William Gutierrez
>Porn is a curse
That's right, you weak willed contrarian. Blame the gun not the shooter. God this website definitely confirms the horseshoe theory. You are a SJW by another name.
Jayden Myers
Porn isnt degenerate you idiot, its just as normal as drinking water and taking a shit
Fuck off jesusfag ive jacked it 4 times today twice to futa hentai
Michael Barnes
I do base my life on it. Because Hillary is going to destroy this Nation once and for all.
That is great you have lived such a wonderful life compared to my own. That must feel pretty good. I fap so much I have conditioned myself to only be turned on by porn and my own hand. I am really addicted. Shit happens.
Maybe it can be fixed. Maybe it won't.
Cooper Harris
I guess that rules out working out too then? After all bodybuilder also enforce restrictions upon themselves about what they have to do (work out) and what they must not do (deviate from their diet).
It is our body, which is why we should treat it so well, this means not going against the laws of the creator of our body, since he knows what is best for us.
And how do you feel about yourself deep down? Would you proudly tell your friends and relatives during dinner what you did?
Tyler Thomas
>But I feel deep down that it is sinful. Why? What real logical observable unexplained by modern understanding and reason experience have you ever had in your own life to believe that any of this 2500-3500 year old collection of cherry picked religious documents is the true and correct word of the creator? Its all just bullshit. Useful bullshit for the time it stood unchallenged, I will grant, but its not real. It never was. There is nothing "evil" about masturbation. You know why? You know why that EVEN in a religious context it is not evil or forbidden? Because it harms no person, not even the practitioner. It does not violate any law of god or even the golden rule. >Nonetheless it is better to not do it at all. Why? What harm does it bring to others? What harm does it bring to self? What harm could it possibly do to even a creator if that theory is to be entertained?
Mason Walker
I want to quit porn, but I'm not religious, therefore I have no real reason to quit. There's no reason to when you don't believe in anything.
Dominic Nguyen
There is if you fap at work, or can't get turned on in person anymore. There is when her hand makes you go limp. There is when her body means nothing anymore.
I really just miss cuddling and kissing the most. Porn doesn't give you that.
If you are really addicted then you have a reason regardless of religion. If you just masturbate alot and it doesn't effect your life much then there isn't much of a problem to worry about.
Luke Sullivan
Do you not realize that you are god? 'God' permeates all of reality and in fact is all of reality. Obeying the supposed dictum of some mythological being does nothing for you. God is inside you and everyone and everything.
Why are 'religious people' so fucking bluepilled about religion?
Leo Cruz
Cumcuck.
A man has as many masters as he does vices. Don't be a slave to your emotions. That's what women do. Be a man of reason. God invented sex and it's a beautiful thing. Porn is degenerate and if you can't help yourself then you are like woman
Michael Smith
>t. Anton Lavey
Lincoln Harris
That's pretty good thanks!
Connor Sanchez
I've fapped at work a few times while on break in the bathroom.
>what harm in fapping? It gives a wrong image of sexuality, which is created to strengthen the bonds between marriage mates, not (just) for personal gratification or child making. It displeases God, something which I would like to avoid because of all the good he did for us.
I have been (idirectly) created by god, thus one could say that he permeates reality. However I am in no way God himself, nor does it reduce him to some impersonal force. He is a person with thoughts, intelligence and emotions, this the bible tells us.
Henry Gonzalez
Tips le fedora
Nathaniel Walker
Is that Debbie Wasseman Schultz from the 90s?
Isaiah Miller
>I know the minds of these people who live half-way across the world because of a Sup Forums post. You cannot even imagine the depths of adoration we have for each other you pathetic ant of an intellectual. You know nothing. We both work actually. You should really consider widening the sight with which you observe the world to encompass a larger area of existence and possibility than 4chans memes. >I do base my life on it. Then you are exactly what they want you to be. In a box. In a prison of your own mind. Enjoy it while you can, whne the raelity of the world sets in and you find your hopes to be empty and false you will realize just how foolish you were to place your life in the hands of a politician, instead of your own ambitions and dreams. >Maybe it can be fixed. Maybe it won't. Nobody can fix your life but yourself. Especially not a presidential candidate. You really believe that they will enact some sort of far reaching revolution and give you meaning? I hope not. For your sake.
>That must feel pretty good. It does. I say these things not to brag or make you feel unlucky. I honestly hope you find someone who makes you feel loved, and confident, and who really understands you. But honesty is the key to happiness. Lies and deception, if I may borrow a paradigm from the bible without being a believer, will only lead to despair.
Nolan Gray
How could the universe, which supposedly contains God (Abrahamic Yaweh) somehow be less of a God than Yaweh itself? Yaweh supposedly acts on and observes and manipulates this universe? How could something like that be worshiped as the true divine?
Joshua Lopez
Let's say you're walking down the sidewalk with a bowling ball in your hand. And you see this kitten laying there watching you walk by. Then you think to yourself... it would be cool to smash that cat with this bowling ball.
Now imagine that there's a second, tiny, quiet voice in your head saying, "No, don't do it. That would be wrong."
Now I realize this is Sup Forums and a lot of the degenerates on this board may not hear that second voice anymore. But I know I would. Loud and clear.
And that is the same quite voice I hear deep in my soul every time I jerk off. Yes. I know it's wrong. But if I'm honest, sometimes I don't care that it's wrong. I just need to drop a load so I can move on and think about something else.
Parker Flores
>we both work I'll stick to my memes where I won't sucker a woman into a degrading life of servitude in the public workforce.
Ryan Murphy
As stated by Satan himself.
Brandon Stewart
God is not by nature contained by the universe. He is the Uncreated, Infinite, and Eternal; the universe is created and finite. He can be said to permeate the universe (panentheism) but is not merely the sum of it.
Jose Edwards
The universe does not contain God since he created it. In one place in the bible it is said that "With God 1000 years are one day, and one day is 1000 years" this could be understood as saying the he even exists outside of time itself.
The fact that there is nothing inside the universe like him was also why it is strictly forbidden to make idols to worship, as this would be worshipping the creation and not the creator.
Or to use an analogy from CS: God is the programmer in front of his computer, the computer is the universe, we are one of the programs running on it which he created.
John Price
Loss of dopamine loss of testosterone. It's credible by science, spending all that energy for lusting after porn is wrong. Lust is one of the seven deadly sins. Unrestrained chasing after pleasure Is immoral
Gavin Mitchell
Christcucks fuck off
William Gutierrez
I can't stop lusting after the hot womens. help
Julian Fisher
Why the fuck would you even have that first thought?
Ryder Taylor
>Current year >Making shit up
Jason James
>The bible is true because the many people who wrote it over centuries believed that god had influenced them to do so. I said unexplained by modern understanding and reason, not circuitous logic using the bible as proof that what the bible says is true. >It gives a wrong image of sexuality There is no "wrong" image of sexuality. Looping back to god's supposed intention based on vague texts and what even most religious authorities contend to be allegory means nothing. I know people who love to role-play as siblings when they do it. They are really nice people. They just don't bring it into other parts of their life. They volunteer, have kids, work, pay their taxes, don't break the laws etc. But for some reason, probably based on some taboo experience as kids, they find it to be the ultimate thrill. Sexuality is a million shades of grey, there is no right or wrong, there is only what the people doing it want. It is the purest freedom we have as humans. >It displeases God, something which I would like to avoid because of all the good he did for us. I can't argue this. I can't because there is no way for me to break this illusion for you. You believe. I do not. There is nothing for me to say. But I believe that you and many others suffer and feel guilt over nothing. That they punish themselves and view themselves as evil for these thoughts or wants. That is tragic to me. For I feel empathy for my fellow man even in the absence of this belief. I wish you luck. I hope you find peace if you feel this way about yourself.
Ethan Davis
The dichotomy between God and the universe is false I think. Maybe on a superficial level yes 'the divine' appears separate from the material world. But the material world is 100% generated by and contained within the divine (god). This world is an expression, or an infinitesimal fragment, of the divine Absolute/God which generates and is all there is.
To lower yourself and 'serve' and 'obey' Yaweh is to fail to understand that Yaweh (if it exists), and you, and the rest of the matter, all spring forth out of the limitless wellspring of reality. All is unified as one. 'God' is everything unified.
Isaac Wilson
Tips fedora, twiddles pubestache
Liam Lopez
You watch porn while you're married? Wtf?
Landon Lee
When Israel invaded Ramallah in 2002, the first thing they did was take over the TV stations and started broadcasting Porn.
The major owners of the porn copoerations are almost all Jewish.
However, porn is illegal in Israel.
It's a weapon of mass influence, to weaken and demotivate your opponent.
Notice how much more energy you have when you havent fappen in a few days vs. when you fap 2 a day?
Tyler Brown
You are not God, satan.
James Perry
Bitches need to work man, they asked for it, fought for it. Also do you still love with your parents or are you just painfully unaware of how difficult it is to live on a single income these days. I work, my wife works,friends who rent rooms from us work. Life isn't a fucking cakewalk, if you want a home, two cars, two dogs and a cat all with a big backyard you and everyone involved in that must work.
Landon Hall
If you regularly think about killing kittens, you have deeper problems.
Jordan Gonzalez
The way I see it, if Yaweh exists, then it is a sort of 'lower' god (on the metaphysical ladder). The demiurge, in a sense. The true divine is beyond creation and destruction, beyond infinity and zero, beyond existence and nonexistence.
Carson Lopez
>being Orthodox Fuck off LARPer.
Aiden Sanders
Do you have autism? Your post was completely irrelevant.
Kevin King
Why would you get rid of porn before getting rid of no-fault divorce?
Wyatt Johnson
I've strayed the path of Christ long enough, it's time to get back on the path of righteousness. November 20th is coming up. Get your acts together lads. Deus vult.
Dylan Johnson
tfw you realize OP is a cult member, not a christian
Agreed. There is more than enough porn elsewhere on Sup Forums and the rest of the internet.
Let's try and keep the signal to noise ratio high here.
Nolan Mitchell
You refuse to consider the existence of unproven things, implying that you think an existent thing has inevitably been proven by scientists therefore that scientists are omnipotent. That is not only as religious as any religious philosophy but really fucking stupid.
Jacob Turner
I'm kidding dude, bitches need to pull their weight.
Landon Barnes
>psuedointellectual babble
Ya okay senpai
Thomas Thomas
The material (and spiritual) creation is not just a part of God. It is of separate essence.
I see, so you would say that we were all just formed of the divine essence by some demiurge creator?
Exodus 3:14 Yahweh as you like to call Him is existence. Your existence is entirely contingent on God. What makes you not God is that your essence does not have existence apart from Him; The Divine essence is the only thing which has existence by nature—we only have it in communion with God.
Dominic Watson
Why would you even have the thought of jacking off?
See the connection?
>proof of bibles truthness? Which modern understanding and reason exactly? Logic? Then inductive logic or any of the other miriards of logic schools? Reason? Which particular school of philosophy would you like to have? Maybe you meant science then? There is archeology, but you dont need to belive in the bible to know that its not exactly a "hard" science and that most of the interpreattion fo the artefact dug up depend on the researcher doing the excavation and his political agenda.
But one major point that proves the divinity of the bible are the prophecies it contains. Take the book of Isaiah for example: In it it is predicted that the Jews will be held captive in Babylon for 70 years and then liberated by a guy named Cyrus, that the water protecting the city will be drained and that the doors to the city will be left unlocked. 200 years later this is exactly what happened. It is so scaringly accurate that the so called "bible critics" (apparently thats a science) simply say that those part of Isaiah were written afterwards instead.
Here is another prophecy that is currently being fullfilled:
I disagree on th hierarchy of things that you present: God created everything including that what we perceive as reality. It was not God that came from reality. Without him nothing, not even time exists, which is why it is said in the bible that he has "no beginning and no end".
This is what I mean. According to the Bible Jehovah/Yaveh is the one above all, not a lesser God.
Go to Artofmanliness.com they had a whole article series on the downsides of porn, more or less free of biblical arguments. Beware however as those articles are not for the attention deficit 140-character addicted millenial of today.
Jaxson Lee
Bro, not that I disagree, but the whole "list is bad, no divorce" thing that was an attempt as keeping pair bonding an active trait in people has failed, and has been gone for several hundred years.
Even if people stopped fapping and quit porn they would still be inclined to fuck any woman they see, and if given the chance they would. No amount of telling a small number of people on a Jamaican Bowling league forum will change it.
If you want to push us back to where we were, it would do you better to go after MSM and force them to stop pushing slut/thug culture, remove people who live in ghettos, and get the state to stop supporting sluts who get knocked up.
Ryder Bailey
I finally agree with this now. Porn is simply not useful and highly, highly detrimental to society. The healthiest way to masturbate is simply to do it based on imagination. You work on your creativity skills, you are almost always just thinking of yourself having sex with others, and most importantly, porn is a leading cause of sexual perversion.
Let me go into some anecdotal storytelling for a sec here. Since I was a young brat, I have been in some ways obsessed with sex. Now it could have been that I was just predisposed to it, but the degenerate, borderline pornographic music channels could have contributed to it quite a bit or even made it come about. And the allure of mysterious naked pictures on the Internet, too, could have been a factor.
So as time went on it only got worse. Growing up, slowly descending down puberty, seeing classmates develop, typical shit as a teenager, but it all gets amplified by a sexfilled, hedonist society.
Things really get amped up late high school and early adulthood. It's all about sex then. And sex is everywhere. It's a mouseclick away. And then you ruin relationships and your life and other peoples' lives with the effects of it...
It's all disgusting and deplorable.
Isaac Sanchez
That is frightening paradigm if you do indeed feel that way. I pity you. For one you compare the moral inequity of smashing a defenseless, further adorable creature, one that elicits affection and love from the human psyche, to the feeling of guilt (even in a religious context) when you come to climax of your own actions. That is incomparable. Its not even the same ballpark, hell, even the same sport. You admit yourself you feel stressed when you do not. You feel tense, wound up.
I ask this: Are you sure you do not suffer unnecessarily? Are you sure your perception of your actions are not someone else's instead of your own. Think back to when you found your current beliefs, why did you? Did you find them because you found them to be logical or they simply made sense to you? Or did you find them simply because you were exposed to them before any others?
>I won't sucker a woman into a degrading life of servitude in the public workforce. Believe it or not some people enjoy being in the workforce instead of staying at home all day and doing menial tasks. My wife is not a simpleton, it would drive her crazy to be a housewife. When the days comes that we want to start a family, we will find a way to do so. But I seriously doubt any intelligent and self respecting person would be content to never utilize those skills and strike their own claim on this world, rather than being content to sit and waste their talents. >Unrestrained chasing after pleasure Is immoral Really, because it accounts for almost every accomplishment in history. Whether it being a scientist chasing respect and fame for his advances, or a warlord carving out his empire for the glory and riches. Satisfaction, ambition, innovation have always and will always be in pursuit of pleasure. It just varies how much pleasure one draws from any given pursuit. Lust may be insufficient to one who craves glory, gluttony may be a footnote to a man who desires fame, + so forth.
Cameron Russell
In other words you turned gay
Elijah Gonzalez
That is true, it is because we are all sinful. Thus we must each day fight against those and other urges to do what God wants us to. The majority does not, this is true, noentheless it is important that people hear what they are expected to do by God in the first place.
For the MSM, 1st John 5: 19 says it how it is: >We know that we originate from God, but the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one" That was almost 2000 years ago and it has only gotten worse.
