When an entrepreneur says he "works" 80 hours a week what exactly is he doing?

When an entrepreneur says he "works" 80 hours a week what exactly is he doing?

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Mostly yelling at people.

Overseeing operations and his employees

photoshoots and social media posting

Fun fact: (((Entrepreneurs))) and (((small business owners))) count the 2 hours they spend drinking Laphroaig and talking shit as "part of my work schedule"

They count the hour and 45m they spent in a room at the Hilton with a hooker as "part of my work schedule"

it's all a big tax scam so they can get as many deductions as possible

Getting away from his wife.

entrepreneurs work 24/7 you fucking idiot

doing what lol

masturbating to internet porn

Most part time jobs only give about 13 hours a week. It's to avoid having to give benifits of full times employees.
I work about 60 hours weekly because I love the fat paychecks, aka muh wage gap.

He's simply 'on the clock'. People overestimate their efforts all the time. My manager works at least 50 hours a week and a lot of that time is simply him hanging out, streaming sports on his smart phone.

I don't know, but one of my favorite things about normies is how they get into dick swinging contests about their jobs.

It requires a lot of thought, investigation, study and planning.

Something NEETs will never understand.

exaggerating

the funny this about this picture is don is the worst fucking employee ever and almost never does any work at all

I work 70 hours a week, with about 63 of those hours doing "actual work" as an entrepreneur. It's the only thing I find validation in doing, relationships and leisure give me existential crises.

It means he wakes up at 12, thinks about how he would make more money soon for an hour, then gets up, looks through some documents while eating and watching porn at the same time, goes to a restaurant to meet with someone, goes to his office for a few hours to let everybody know he's still in charge and read some shit like Bloomberg, then goes to a business meeting, which is held in a sauna with some hookers. All of this he considers "hard work".

No, seriously, all the rich people I've known who complain they've been working crazy hours without day offs for years have actually been doing REAL work for, like, 3-5 hours a day. They are actually mentally fucked and always stressed out, though, but it's always their own fault - they can't into long-term planning at all, and they're also super-greedy and short-tempered control freaks.

Shotposting as the eternal leaf

This. They say it's work, but work for them includes going out to Michelin starred restaurants and getting hammered with clients whilst still being on the payrol/having the costs covered.

You guys have meme-tier understanding of running a business, but what did I expect from a bunch of NEETs

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>he has a problem with meme-tier understanding of things

classic (((entrepreneur)))

you're not one of us, you don't believe in meme magic

Everything.

My dad was (retired now, living comfortably) a road and paving contractor. Over 100 employees. He did EVERYTHING for his business, and had his fingers in every single facet of it.

Purchasing (everything from materials, tools to equipment etc etc. How much do YOU know about diesel heavy equipment useful lifespan etc? to cement mix, aggregate types supplies and prices etc), bidding (biggest concern and a HUGE timesink: overseeing surveys, geo reports, calculating out labor costs per day including mandatory overtime and hazard pay [completion bonus state, so that's a requirement to factor in] etc etc), overseeing contract writing (sit with the lawyers and go over every facet of every contract so everything is covered because the lawyers know writing legal documents they don't know dick about paving projects), overseeing payroll (mostly done by accounting, but you have to figure out labor needs and oversee your labor costs), overseeing jobs at least weekly until completion (go to every one, walk it. talk to foremen and crews, see what is going on, any problems, etc. Fix problems as they arrive), etc etc.

I used to give him shit for not swinging a shovel but he used to do easily 80 hours a week standing on his head, most weeks were more than that. I hardly saw him except sundays my entire childhood. 14 or 16 hour days for weeks were nothing right before a big job or bid.


I have a friend who owns a restaurant and he seems to work similar hours, 90 or so a week? I am not sure how other industries operate.

Its good to be the boss, but at the end of the day everything is on YOU to get done. You hire and delegate as much as you can, and have reliable employees as much as you can, but sometimes you know someone is going to fuck up unless you do it yourself so I think that is part of it also.

Nobody effectively works 80 hours a week.
And those who have to do this mostly aren't important CEOs but cucked work horses.
I know several succesfull CEOs and most of them tell me that they effectively work 2-3 hours a day.

>hourly worker detected

Salary master race here. I try my damndest to work less than 40 hours every week because it's like giving myself a raise.

Mostly purchasing/restocking/customer service.

The rest is bullshit and communication with corporate.

T. College student/manager

That is why I aspire to be the Don of my own life.

>image and reputation counts for nothing

If it's so easy, why don't people respect you enough to throw money at you?

Entrepreneuring, of course

truckers work 90 hours a week, easy.

Discussing contracts, ordering employee work schedules, managing finances.

>I know several succesfull CEOs and most of them tell me that they effectively work 2-3 hours a day.

>wrong

The feds have cracked down on that meth-fueled gravy train. There are strict guidelines for how many hours you can drive in a 24hr period now.

It is called networking kid, learn your shit

He's alpha and has a deep voice. Hate to break it to you but that's more important than hard work.

Taking existential risk in order to create value and put food on the table is god-tier. Kek and memes come second.

spoiler alert, he fucks that up to by being a drunk

Fucking shitlord

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

This. I know small business owners. They spend their day on the phone with clients, in meeting with clients, management, and having people come to their office every 5 minutes with questions about this and that. It's not easy.

You NEETs are describing executives at large multi billion dollar corporations. Very different from small business.

A lot of time spent driving, meeting with clients, and making sure you are operating at maximum efficiency.

Smaller business involve the owner working too, so a lot of them meet with clients after hours. For example, my dad owns a custom cabinet company. He works maybe 55 hours (usually 40+ hours spent in warehouse) on the clock, and spends 10-20 hours a week meeting with clients and designers after hours.

And wagecucks count the 5 hours a day they spend fucking around on their phones and jabberjawing with cowokers as "part of my work schedule".

Being available at all times.

Getting high and discussing "deals" with other "entrepreneurs" over dinner, paid for by their duped investors.

Is your dad Amish? If not he should be. Amish cabinets are in huge demand and have a big markup.

This, there's a reason why the business owner makes more than everyone else anyone who disagrees is an ignoramus

Try to be a little less overt about your disdain for the blue collar/working class.

I spend about one hour tops most days working. The rest is paid phone shitposting. Living the dream.

>Wanna play with me, dad?
>Can't son I've to pick up this phone and call some people

>They spend their day on the phone with clients, in meeting with clients, management, and having people come to their office every 5 minutes with questions about this and that. It's not easy.
Sounds very hard

this

But would you call that hard work? It's like the time Gwyneth Paltrow said that her job is very hard, because she has to travel around and get paid millions to pay other people to manage her life

Alot of the government regs. they put in place are easy to get around, truckers are still maxing out

He's bullshitting and counts his travel time into his work schedule.

He also counts breakfeast lunch and dinner

nah that goes to roger

if my boss spent as much time working as he does complaining to his boss about how hard he works, maybe he'd actually have something to complain about

then again any time he comes out of his office its only to pitch a fit about something fucking petty in the workshop, and ends up fucking everyone else off. he's the classic seagull manager. his bosses legitimately think he's the only thing holding the branch together. i feel bad for my supervisor, who's the one really running the show

anyway thanks for reading my blog

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>Murder is a strict guideline for people you can kill

Managing his time poorly.

No and Amish cabinets are overrated, as I have to agree.

We make all types of cabinets depending on what a customer needs. He's been making cabinets for 30 years now, so we can make anything. Mostly higher end large projects for new constructions and renovations in the Chicago area. That's where we can get the best margins.

I get paid 70 quid an hour working in a&e so i only bother working 36 hours a week. Which still works out at 130 grand a year. It doesnt compare to most jobs though, im working my cock off the entire time im in the department.

Maybe doing side jobs or something, but long haul drivers or anyone who drives on major highways will get in big trouble if their logs aren't right.

Telling people what to do basically.

Entrepreneuring of course

this thread makes my head hurt.

dad is a serial entrepreneur, during the time he was running his own loan shark operation i watched him stay up 3 days straight sifting through paperwork, crashed for a few hours and then went right back at it. the amount of drive it takes to be self employed is pretty high

That's why I quit regular jobs and started into freelancing, moving carefully towards my own projects (except for my part-time job in an academia, but that's an entirely different story).

Middle management are a bunch of cultists. "Young and successful, we are efficient and march into the bright future together with our corporation!" They're also hypocrites: they talk about loyalty, but then suddenly jump ship when someone offers them 15% more money, leaving the projects they've been responsible for hanging in the air.

The top management is fucked in the head. They actually believe they are doing me a favor paying me a fraction of the value I produce for them doing a shitty, routine job so they could spend 120 times my wage on luxury cars and real estate. They don't treat it as mutually-beneficial business relations, but rather as purchasing a serf who must be forever in debt for their generosity.

"We're making important decisions concerning other people and thus are always dealing with high amount of pressure, hence our incredulous income levels." Yeah, right. Tell this to pilots or surgeons, or engineers, fucking two-faced dipshits.

Some truckers use two logbooks to avoid getting in trouble, but the crackdown has been pretty effective at reducing the number of hours truckers are on the road.

Salary workers usually lose out, because they usually end up working longer hours without pay. It's retarded. Do you think if management knows youre on salary they will not get their money's worth? I am guaranteed my 40 hours a week, so I have a guaranteeed "salary" but if i stay longer I get 1.5x the pay. Also holidays I get triple pay. Its great.

hahah "pick up the phone and call some people"??

You and some of the hourly workers in here laughing off what being a business owner entails are just showing you don't have the first clue what owning and running a business is about. "answer some phones" hahaha what the fuck bernie voters??

I work 72x6

Damn. Just posted this exact message but without the comma. I like yours better. We'll go with yours

These. Thanks bros. I could have typed out a long fucking post but you said it better than I could have.

We have two front office and two back office workers in addition to our 20 regular employees.

The ratio of work hours to work hours needed is usually 1:3, and that's just the shit that needs doing as part of day to day running.

When the secretary goes home the boss takes over.

When a business partner needs to be scouted out the boss does it.

When there is a complaint the boss needs to handle it.

If that is somewhere around 1130 in the evening? Tough shit, you gotta deal with it.

The 80 hour thing is very much true.

Maybe employers should pay their employees per-productivity rather than per-hour. If they make the same per-hour no matter how slow they work, then why should they work faster? Also, working too fast on a per-hour basis can screw yourself out of hours.

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That's why everybody wants to be him

as a small business owner i spend about 8-10 hours a day, 5-6 days a week "working", i deal with clients on phone/email from about 6am to midnight 7 days a week.

It's not difficult for some people.

Worst part of my job is having to tell employees to knock off the shit they're doing or to stop being worthless or dealing with shit customers, but for some people it might not be that difficult.

Having said that being available 24/7 is the killer. There will be times you're just sitting in bed and you just know some fucker is going to call you up at 3am and expect you to save the goddamn day and lo and behold it happens. It's just draining.

>paperwork
Thankfully we have these dope, new inventions called computers.

Though what happens if no one buys their products, they have to be discounted to sell, or they're shitty?

"Work" for them is a loose term. You could having steak dinner and simultaneously be working since the person with you is a potential client or something.

20 hours of actual work, 20 hours of fucking off, 20 hours catching up on the 20 hours you fucked off, 20 hours fucking off some more

>REEEEE i work X amount of hours each week
>I need vindication for my wage cucking REEE

In my case, when I wasn't not actually working I waited for the next thing that needs to be taken care of, on my days off I still had to work, I just did not know when until I got a call. I spent years unable to leave town, no vacation time, no sick days, just working or waiting to work.

Hell ringing phones still makes me sick to my stomach, but it was worth it in the end.

>Chicago
>construction
Mafia confirmed.

You're a fucking cuck dude

You are a retard and will never run a business

I'm an entrepreneur and while most of my work hours are light there is a constant stream of bills, forms to fill out, people to talk to and whatnot. So that throughout the day all days of the week and probably 30 or so hours on the average week that is total nose to the grindstone.

top management is a retirement home for corporates. they feel they have "done their time" and fully deserve the ridiculous salary. while they are technically in charge of making the tough decisions, their main priority is to get through the working day without speaking to anyone who might ask them a question

yes, the wage cuckery has gone too far in many instances. The idea should be something like being able to do careful work because you don't have to worry about efficiency. But it's easy to get distracted and just clocking in and out.

I wouldn't tempt chaos like that if I was you, normie

This.

It just means he's on call.

>haha my dad did paperwork and phonecalls for 180 hours per week... at least that's what he told me and I believe him because he's daddy.
Your father was out banging hookers. Get a grip and stop pretending to be important.

giving you a job, you stupid fucking commie

What's your business?

I am an entrepreneur and I am currently "working".
Sometimes it means taking a nap, sometimes it means sitting here shitposting eating bean dip.
Other times it means I wake up at 6am work all day sometimes to 8pm go home and do paperwork till 2am. Sometimes it is weeks of this in a row. Other times its a good portion of the week with a decent amount of idle time.

If your people are calling you for anything short of an emergency at 330am, its because you've trained them poorly.

Being a manager is easy, not harder than being a babysitter, but being an effective manager who increases the productivity of all your employees is a much harder task. That's why executives get paid more, not because they work harder, but because they leverage their time to increase the productivity of the whole organization.

Making memes like that one

>Its good to be the boss, but at the end of the day everything is on YOU to get done. You hire and delegate as much as you can, and have reliable employees as much as you can, but sometimes you know someone is going to fuck up unless you do it yourself so I think that is part of it also.

So much this. I was picked for a project manager position and it completely changed my perception of the world and work, articulating things and learning and making shit happen rather than slaving for a paycheck and not giving a fuck.

Sure I bitch about my long days sometimes to my friends, but they still haven't realized what it means to be in charge of something. Sometimes you can't just stay home on a Saturday just because you don't feel like working. Shit's gotta get done. And the fact you think I have a shitty deal doesn't bode well for your own employment prospects.

I work both. 3 Jobs getting me up to 76 hours a week. Minmum 46 a week but thats rare.

Enough of your communist rhetoric. My boss is a first in the office, works his ass off and it is the last to go home.

Entrepreneur is just another word for "between jobs".

>calling others a commie
>eastern european shithole

That's rich

The vast majority of people that say they work insane hours are full of shit. Some actually do, but most don't. Besides, only idiots with shit-tier productivity use hours worked as some kind of cock-trophy success metric.

But Don is Roger's employee.