I was watching the first Superman movie to see what the fuss was about...

I was watching the first Superman movie to see what the fuss was about. I was actually enjoying it and felt it understood Superman better than Snyder but my god, the scene where he goes back in time by spinning the Earth backwards, why did they think this was ok? This would have gotten any modern director laughed at today how was that ok back in the day? Did people just accept that Superman could time travel back in the day?

He could
Also movies didn't try to be realistic back then because half the population wasn't autistic who had to take everything literally

How should I take it then? I mean I am not against time travel despite it being weird seeing it in the very first superman but the way they did it was retarded

He didn't spin the earth backwards, we flew so fast he traveled back in time (the earth appearing to rotate in reverse relative to him)
It's exactly the type of cartoony powers Superman ought to have desu, especially the late 70s

Cause people realised that it was a film about a man flying about in a colourful costume saving the day and that cool concepts > realism when you're dealing with adaptations of comics.

*he

he can't tap into the speed force like the Flash though so it's literally impossible for him to time travel based on speed alone

He wasn't making time travel backwards by making the earth reverse its rotation you tard. He was simply flying around the earth in a holding pattern while he moved at such a high rate of speed that time went backwards. And before you call this unrealistic or some shit Star Trek did the same thing only they flew through the sun.

Well to be fair no one ever turned the earth backwards so there's no reason to think that turning the earth backwards won't reverse time. There's no scientific proof of that yet. Either way the important part of that scene was probably the fact that he reversed time rather than how he did it.

>Star Trek did the same thing only they flew through the sun.
But it was retarded in Star Trek too. Why are you trying to say Star Trek did it so its ok?

Back to the Future also features time travel. Should we just remove all time travel from movies since you autistically cannot grasp the purpose of putting an objectively impossible occurrence on film?

PS Superman also flies.

Back to the future was a movie about time travel though this was a superman movie, the first as far as I am aware that awkwardly shoehorned it to avoid a bad ending.

Because Comic Book Movies were still COMIC BOOK (movies)

Time travel is only bad when it is not realistic

bro, he flew fast to the point he went back in time. earth moving backwards is just imagery for you to understand he is going back.
and its a phenomenal movie. better than any capeshit not done by nolan.

Time Travel is bad when it's a lame minor plot device to get around Lois Lane dying. Hell, if at the start of the movie Superman attented a lecture where a scientist explained how time travel is possible based on what Superman does later that would be 100 times better because at least it is foreshadowed somehow. It just came out of nowhere. If Superman can do that why doesn't he do it more?

The Speed Force has nothing to do with time travel abilities.

Can you prove it would not work?

You need it to time travel though along with the treadmill

You don't prove negatives user.

The bigger question is why he gave enough of a shit about a 4/10 to travel back in time.

You faggots who take comic book bullshit way too seriously should be gassed.

There was a US astronaut that went into space just to impress a 4/10 and she still cuck's him and he killed himself.

Underrated

Superman 2 was shit. I haven't seen 3. It worth it?

It gets only worse and apexes into a crescendo of fecal matter in Quest for peace.

He could travel through time, but the story steps on its own dick by presenting it the way it did. It's pure wish-fullfilment and escapist power fantasy at its very finest, but at the core of Superman's character is one of the same truths that Dr. Ian Malcolm so memorably put forth:

Just because you *can* do a thing doesn't necessarily mean that you should.

Makes Pa Kent's "maybe" moment take on a whole new meaning, huh? If he justifies turning back time for Lois, why not his own father? Why not every victim he wasn't in time to save? The answer is because it creates a world where Superman is everywhere at once, saving everyone, becoming the omnipresent nanny that robs the human journey of all meaning. Miracles should be the last resort for Superman, not the first.

I always thought a sequel where the time-traveled Supes had to face off against his "past" self over who had the right to that timeline would have made an interesting story, one that illustrated why Jor-El cautioned him against meddling with time.

>please spoon feed me every question I have in a movie
Maybe movies "aren't your thing"

Average marvel fan

Holy fuck this chick was my first wank in superman2.

>aged well

What is superman returns like? I disliked Man of Steel

Forgot pic

Why did krypton in the first movie look like a shit version of the death star? Big rocks, live in caves... Inhabited. What did they mean by this?

>why did they think this was ok
Because it was legitimately a power he had in the comics. Get over it. He used to be way stronger. Plus I like how the "you can't save everyone" meme was undone by Superman. It feels like if anyone can save everyone, it should be him.

60's movie was based on silver age so he could do it without speed force. Speed force as a concept was still relatively new back then too.

Stop looking at the "science" and look at the character development. Superman turning back time to save Lois shows that he is human despite his godlike powers.

>this was a superman movie
>Superman movie
>Superman uses his powers
>NOT FAIR!!!

>no foreshadowing so it's bad
I'm glad you're not writing movies. Well, based on the terrible movies we get nowadays, maybe you do.

>character does something out of left field not addressed or alluded to that has major effects on the plot
>not bad writing

>he stops flying around the earth for a moment and the earth keeps spinning backwards so he has to fly on the other direction a bit to correct the rotation of the earth

but sure, it was "just visual representation"

Dude, he travels back in time by going faster than 300000km/s, so we're just shown how time is reversed, not the fuckin spin of the earth.

>character with a power is pushed to his limits due to emotional distress, allowing him to tap into a previously unknown power
Not only that, it was already common knowledge that he could fly and go fast. All he had to do was go even faster. Plus it was expected if you were an actual comic fan.

>unironically using DBZ as an example of good writing

>he thinks the Frieza saga was bad
You must be underaged because there was a time when DBZ was actually good.

>he thinks shirtless men screaming at each for 100 episodes other is good writing

It was foreshadowed, though. Jor-El warns him not to, then Supes pauses to consider it with Jor's memory/ghost before taking off to break the light barrier.

It isn't foreshadowed when it is said literally seconds before retard

Which is worse

>"At no circumstance you shall alter mankind's history"
>His crush dies
>"FUCK THAT SHIT I'M REWRITTING HISTORY"
>It all works out

What's the moral of the story exactly? You can alter mankind's story as long as it is for a selfish reason?

t. roastie

Jor-El says it in the Fortress of Solitude. He just remembers Jor-El saying it in the end.

Literally every action you take "alters history." Should people just not do anything ever?

meaning alter the past, dimwit

if you listened to the dialogue in the beginning where his father was explaining to him what his powers would be, you'd realize in this movie it wasn't just the sun that powered him, he was a superior spiritual being, something akin to a Neo in the Matrix

The moral? Love is greater than anything.

check the comics before this movie came out, time traveling was the least silly or stupid power he had.

Why doesn't he go back in time to make his dad stop eating bacon so he doesn't die of a heart attack?

I know
;^)

>fast enough to travel in time
>not fast enough to catch two missiles

Why doesn't he go back in the past in Superman 2, 3 and 4 to stop his adversaries before they get too big? In literally all 3 movies if he had a couple of days head start he could have prevented Nuclear Man from being made by not throwing nukes into the sun, he could have prevented that robot thing from part 3 from being made and he could have adequately prepared for Zod.

he got faster after lois died

Huh?

>why isn't Superman smiling and making quips like he does in the comics

2BFair: Superman in the comics couldn't travel into the past where he already existed or would turn into a phantom
So I guess the movie got that wrong

>checkmate atheists

xD Dragon ball is nothing but people screaming for 100 episodes XD dumb nerds

This. I know the thread is mostly memeing but there was no repercussion for changing human history. Doesn't ruin the movie for me but does make me think