Are there any horror movies where the victim/target goes through the process of the hero's journey and over-comes the...

Are there any horror movies where the victim/target goes through the process of the hero's journey and over-comes the "fear" set out in the film?

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Aliens? But you might not count that as horror...

Proposed: the horror genre is not the same as the adventure genre, and do not share the same rules; although there may be horrific scenes in an adventure.

The Descent
>call to go spelunking with niggettes
>good times with friends to overcome dead kid
>friends help cross treacherous pathways
>fucking cave monsters!
>best friend fucked my dude!
>become badass motherfucker
>make cunt ex-friend lame so cave monsters get her
>escape (even though its not real)

Shaun of the dead

Yea, I guess the Descent fits the bill the most. But that can't be the only one?

>Aliens? But you might not count that as horror...
I might not count it as good either

The Babadook.

Are there any movies where the hero is going through the hero's journey but fails halfway through?

Prince of Darkness
>Just a college kid
>Get called to go study a giant tube of special liquid at an old church
>HNIC professor guides you, as does the priest
>Helpers are your co-students
>Oh shit fucking homeless people are swarming
>JESUS WAS AN AYY LMAO AND SATAN'S KID IN THAT TUBE
>Blonde bitch literally transforms into Satan's Seed, college kids must step up and do some action scenes
>Homely girl atones for the original sin of being a woman and divebombs POD into the mirror
>The gift of the goddess is literally saving the world

The Grey, but that's kinda the point

Evil Dead....

Can I get some movies with the hero's journey

In the Mouth of Madness
>Regular old claim investigator
>Goofy shit is afoot and tasked with hunting down a missing horror novelist
>Having fucked up dreams
>Helped out by Jerry Dandrige's sister
>Weird shit going on on the way to and within the town the writer's in
>OH SHIT FUCKING OLD ONES
>Become crazy person
>Accept that the world has ended
>Get the gift of watching your own movie for all eternity

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Matrix, the Hobbit, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars a New Hope, Shrek, basically any movie ever

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There's a significant difference between Freytag's pyramid, and the hero's journey. Films usually require over 2 hours to properly execute the hero's journey.

Shrek and Lord of the Rings and Star Wars don't fall under the Hero's journey. The Matrix half-asses it.

Nightmare on Elm Street 3

H20

Problem with the Hero's Journey, though, is that it makes less sense for horror where the focus is on dread and the villain. The hero, or rather, the heroine, is the ficus be default of being a syrvivor. But she does not get as much a focus as the villain or the feeling of dread.

A rejoinder to this argument would be from literature, but a written story has more time to build Dr. Frankenstein and the Belmont. Horror movies are not the same.

Also lemme take the time tio mention one of the best exceptions, and one of the best horror movies ever

The Thing

Star Wars was directly based on the hero's journey. It's been a while since I learned about Freytag's pyramid, but I learned about it in conjunction with the hero's journey, so it seems to me that they're not mutually exclusive, although I'm not an expert

It can work for horror in a very specific way. Usually the hero has to suffer some sort of extreme emotional or physical trauma that they end up over-coming and rising against whatever is harassing them.

A perfect example would be The Hills Have Eyes, along with H20 as you mentioned.

If you count all 3 Star Wars films, then it could be considered the Hero's journey, but just going on the first one, it's lacking several key steps.

Since A New Hope was originally called "Star Wars" when it released, it's difficult to tell when someone is referring to the first one or the trilogy.

The hero's journey could work for the villain in a horror movie.

Friday the 13th part 2
>Get revenge for mom
>Go to woods and find interlopers
>Listen to mom's severed head for guidance
>Helped by trusty machete
>Run around killing counselors, some are hard to sneak up on so have to take it slow
>OH SHIT THE FINAL GIRL IS A BIT OF A BADASS
>Become one with the forest
>Chas that bitch into my hut
>Realize dead mom is really dead and mourn her, briefly, die for a little while
>See that stupid bitch sitting in front of a window and snatch her the fuck back in front of her gay boyfriend and dog

I'm going to be attacked for this, but ___IT___

That makes sense. I was talking about a new hope but I guess you need all three to complete it

That is true, but I find those more an exception to the rule.

To me, horror is about dread. Its s genre I equate to tragedy, as I consider that both genres focus on a loss, on the fact that the hero does NOT win. It can work, yes, but its rare.

To expound a bit further, the feeling of dread, and the unknown, is what, I feel, seperates horror from tragedy. From tragedy we want to see why the hero failed, and what can be avoided. Horror's strength comes from the dread of a doom thay cannot be beaten, or is beyond.

Drag me to hell, for me, is, both horror and tragedy. The Jason movies are horror, while Amadeus is tragedy.

The kids from Stephen kings IT do it and they get laid too

The Ritual

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