Why should I, as a Portuguese diasporafag, care about the white race going extinct?

Why should I, as a Portuguese diasporafag, care about the white race going extinct?

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Don't then. You Portuguese fucks were always useless.

Couldn't even keep Spain in check.

who is going to pay you to mow their lawn

ALJUBARROTAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

You're thinking of your own racial inheritance, Paco. We work construction.

>Couldn't even keep Spain in check.

How do you explain our borders, then?

Could you imagine living around just this?

why should I care about what you care about? All I know about Portuguese is william the orange had some sweet ass caravels

None of that was a problem until good old USA and their USSR buttbuddies decided to fund rebel blacks and topple stable, prosperous colonies. After "liberating" blacks from civilisation and stability you then decided to foment a revolution - a coup - against the Estado Novo. Portugal always had a way of dealing with blacks; the product of centuries of ruling over them.

Yeah, well I don't care that you don't care so I guess we're even.

Caring about only yourself is your first mistake.

I don't care only for myself. My priorities are arranged thusly:

My family
My ethnic group (Portuguese)
My meta-ethnic group (Iberians)

Everyone else can fend for themselves as far as I'm concerned. I have no interest in aided or obstructing outgroups unless their aims are in conformity or contrary to my own community's interests. It has not been demonstrated that the preservation of the white race is in any way in conformity to my own community's interests. In fact, given your self-loathing and self-destructive nature, I'm all but convinced you're liable to drag us down with you.

This judgement is fair. In the least a worldview has to do that, encompass a WORLD view. You have to account for everyone, where they fit, how they should be treated. When you have a worldview then there is a goal to move towards and caring becomes apparent. This is why you should care. We are on a globe and there is for and against.

>When you have a worldview then there is a goal to move towards and caring becomes apparent.
What is this goal, though?

Preserve good and remove the bad.

Can it be claimed that whites are good at this point, really? Remember, this isn't the 18th century any more. We're in the era of modernity: homosexuality, multiculturalism, feminism, socialism, secularism, liberalism - the list goes on. The biggest propagator and embracer of these errors is the white race, none other.

That's upto you. But my strong recommendation would be that whites are the only way to reverse this. Being apart of the problem is emotionally hard to swallow, I agree. No matter how bad things get we have to make a decision to move forward. Choose a side.

I do choose a side: that of my own race. I get what you're saying. It's somewhere between consequentialism and pragmatism but you have to understand that I view whites as being perhaps even more dangerous by virtue of your culture and political sensibilities than, say, sub-Saharan Africans or Moors. If these people have power and the capacity to subjugate whites it is only because you have endowed them with such power, foolishly and imprudently. And this foolishness and imprudence you have - for years - attempted to export to places like Portugal, as though you are not content only destroying yourselves but must work also toward the destruction of others. How am I to view you, if not as an enemy?

I want to excuse others as the cause but you have a good point. But this degeneration also coincides with the environmental changes post WWII. Dysgenics has got out of hand and a lot of people have to die now.in the future to remake the West. This is not an excuse, but we need an opportunity to prove ourselves. I want to explain your distaste as disappointment. We have let our creative power fall into destructive powers. But given a chance no one else can achieve as much. We need a chance first. When we fail again in the future with another Hitler, then you can be disappointed because we learned nothing and we are doomed to repeat our mistakes.

You have no reason to. It's not your problem.
You have your own people to care about.
I will do what I can to save the white race from causing it's own destruction, though I fear that the damage may be too great already.

All of us must seek to preserve our own kind.
No one else will do it for us.

And before some fuck says "hur hur you're spanish hur hur", I'm not Spanish. I just happen to be in Spain at the moment.

And for you, do you consider yourself white first, or is your allegiance to your ethnic group?

olivenza + melila + ceuta

>imagine

That's a tough one.
I suppose I see myself as English/Irish first and white second, by a little.

The thing is that my home is Ireland and it is not under threat as Britain or Europe are.
Because of that, I care more about Britain and the white race in general than Ireland at the moment.

>no iberians are white meme

its like you idiots forget that northern iberia was never conquered by slimes and after that they were genocided desu

i am white as fuck and my parents are from cantabria

i just want this meme to dieeee

Aren't Portuguese hispanic? Should care about your own race, mate.

That's not what I said.

It's just that fuckers on here keep calling me a moor when they see the Spanish flag.

I know that loads of Spaniards are not descended from mudslimes.

Sorry user. I just find it retarded when people call Italians and Iberians moors when they were genocided and expelled.

Where in Spain are you vacationing?

Some are white, some aren't. Open a book sometime, Stolichnaya.

No. Maybe in the US but their Census Bureau is retarded and also considers Arabs white. "Hispanic" is really just an Americanism for Hispanophone, and the Portuguese are Lusophones.

All of this is unnecessary confusion. We're simply Iberians.

Whatever you think you are today I would remind you that 50 years ago - tops - you would have been considered non-white along with all the other Catholic "trash" in the US. The fact that you now embrace some colonial pseudo-identity is indicative of the fact that you have been utterly assimilated into WASPish culture and have now adopted their worldview.

I agree. Sup Forums keep calling Spaniards moors and the Spaniards sent the moors packing ages ago.
I admire them for how they drove the invaders out.

I'm in Cuenca at the moment but I was in Valencia for a while.

I wish I could stay desu I love it here so much.
I suppose that my own country needs me though.

>implying i give a fuck what a dirty anglo german mutt country has to say about me

I don't even want to live in this country. Esp. w/ fucking hilldawg. Ill go back to my grandparents house in Santander thankyou very much.

And when you go back to Santander you will cease to have any need for the term "white" because it will be redundant and useless. In Cantabria you are either a Cantabrian or you are not. There's none of this "white" business.

Of course not. I am who I am. The "white" autism was made by anglos because it was pasty white brits being forced to share a culture with charred skin black men who had a claim that they were both equally "american" or "canadian"

I'm rambling, sorry. I agree with you though.

In my honest opinion everything besides Spain, Portugal, (((((andorra)))), San Marino, should be glassed.

>There's none of this "white" business.
Again, it's worth thinking outside of your immediate experience. There is a future of pan-nationalism for whites that will come together and it will be the last chance for 'us'.

it's already extinct because there's no such thing as the white race

That doesn't matter if white really exists. It's an idea. Spiritual, even, that elevates us on an evolutionary level.

Well, that's your call to make but I'm not white so this white identity stuff doesn't really resonate with me. For what it's worth, I think it will go nowhere. I'm not trying to inspire some defeatist attitude in you or in anyone else, but that's how I feel. The old maxim that strength is unity isn't always true.

I don't think a skin color will unite us. Divided nationalism will unite us. Australia for Australians, Spain for Spaniards, Germany for Germans.

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That's fine. I appreciate this discussion. If you're not onboard I understand but cannot condone.

This is just the beginning. We need to bring out the best. Whether this is through co-operation, a new project, or new nation; I am open.

White identity is a meme.
Also how are you nonwhite, are you of Arab admixture of Mestizo

Divided but united fascism. IE: Axis of fascvist states in WW2 in Europe: Spain, Germany, Italy, San Marino, Hungary I believe.

That is how we can unite.

I have no extra-European DNA. I reject whiteness as a pseudo-identity and a trap, mostly. From a purely practical point of view, when you identify yourself as white and throw your lot in with "white people" you are by nature of that very action taking on all of their baggage and subjecting yourself to all of their problems. Our enemies know and love this, because they can manage and manipulate this ambiguous identity to their own ends. They've been doing it for decades, and with all apparent success.

White identity is a dead end, that's the bottom line. It has gone nowhere and will continue to remain totally impotent on the fringes of the political sphere, garnering popular attention solely for the purpose of mockery and cheap entertainment. You know what will go somewhere? Ethnic solidarity and religious identity. The proof of this is Hungary, Slovakia, Slovenia, and especially Poland where a real popular resistance to all the snares and trappings of EU shills and their destructive policies is underway. It's working, and without any reliance upon fantastical predictions of future uprisings like the "day of the rope," the "Fourth Reich," or the "race war".

By the way, whiteness was used as a project of social engineering in the United States from the 1930s to at least the 1980s. It was used by WASP and Jewish policy makers to drive Catholics out of their ethnic neighbourhoods where they were insulated from moral and cultural subversion and into the suburbs where they became isolated and were "corrected" through TV and radio media. This is the sort of thing I'm talking about when I say it's a trap.

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You're preaching to the choir. White pride is autistic and is created by the jews to divide us. I believe a nation should have its own people and be proud of its people, regardless of race.

What do you mean by no EU DNA? Are you Morroccan.. Indio... What is it? Or is everybody from your family just Portuguese?

No extra-European DNA, meaning no DNA from outside of Europe. I'm Anglo-Portuguese, ethnically.

I see.
Say, you have a steam or a kik?

I don't, no. Sorry.

stop it canada stop it

I no more represent Canada than this moral wasteland represents me.

You are white whether you like to admit it or not. The tim wise tier argument means nothing.

The fact is your people subjugated the new world, due to retarded fat Americans that conflate you Iberians with the people you enslaved, and that being white is seen as uncool, people like you act like they are special snowflakes.

By all means support the niggers though and turn against europe because you are deluded enough to think you aren't white because 100 years ago some wasp wouldn't let you in a country club :^) hear Lisbon is becoming very diverse, hope you enjoy it!

Lol completely european and you think you aren't white?

Go ahead though, turn on Europe because you think you're nonwhite, lmao. Idiot.

I'm a spic but fairly pasty. I wonder if there's a way for me to differentiate myself from the rest of you cumskins and explain to the colored masses that I'm not white because my dad was a spaniard and
>Span
>whit

Hopefully I will be spared when the race war finds me.

If I am white then it is only by recent contrivance that this is the case. Were I born 50 years earlier I would not have been. What this suggests to me is that we are speaking of a fluid and totally artificial identity not grounded on any substantial or tangible basis but purely on the norms of the day and the political views of the person employing the term. Gather together 100 of your compatriots and ask them to put together a definitive list of the ethnic groups which constitute the white race and you will not produce two results which are the same.

But the key to the issue is that I have no need of "whiteness" because I have an identity. One which is the product of thousands of years of ethnogenesis and is unquestionably quantifiable not only in genetic terms but in anthropological and historical terms as well.

White as something "uncool," as if my rationale, here, is little more than contrarianism or hipsterism, is a non-issue. The problem is that it's a trap, as I've already explained, and one I will not personally walk into. If you want to, that's your call, but don't expect me to do likewise.

As to blacks, you have wrongly interpreted my opposition to the exportation of the WASPish mentality as being pro-black or pro-Moor, etc. The only thing I am in favour of is my own kind. Everyone else belongs to an outgroup, the Somali being in this instance no different than the American, and in fact one is less immediately dangerous because he is not intentionally attempting to propagate self-destructive practices under the guise of solutions. The Somali can do nothing but betray his foreignness by virtue of his God-given appearance, while the American can pretend he is my "white" brother while, for example, subverting my culture with his media.

One of the reasons Lisbon has so many blacks, by the way, is because our "white brothers" in the US decided to effectively destroy Portuguese-Africa resulting in a wave of colonial refugees.

>There is a future of pan-nationalism for whites that will come together and it will be the last chance for 'us'.

No chance in hell. Sup Forums and white society at large will never accept Southern Europeans or white colonial Latin Americans into a pan-nationalistic fold. Not to mention these beliefs are a reflection of what most Northern/Central Europeans and their descendants think about us in general. Most anglo Americans actually believe that Spain is in South America and that Italians are 100% genetically identical to sand people. It's been like this for centuries and will always be.

You guys are on your own.

Stop falling for the divide and conquer bullshit. Also Pols not nice to anyone so grow some thicker skin.

because actual Portuguese people are White. I doubt you've ever even been there.

I have, and unlike you I didn't spend that time withering on some beach in the Algarve with a hop, skip, and a jump on my way to cirrhosis of the liver. The Portuguese diaspora is notorious for flooding our parents' little villages and quiet towns just about every summer.

You cannot divide what has always been divided. And, like I said, the maxim of unity = strength isn't always true, and in this case it is scarcely more than a Sup Forums meme.

I've used this analogy here before but I'll use it again: Do you know how long it took the Romans to take Gaul? Roughly 8 years. Do you know why? It was because the disparate and fractious tribes had all been united under their leader, Vercingetorix. To conquer Gaul with all its unity, the Romans needed only to conquer one man.

By comparison it took them 200 years to take Iberia. The reason for this was precisely because there was no unity. They had to conquer each tribe one by one, and by the time they had reached the Lusitanians they were reduced to bribing and assassination rather than facing them in the field, so spent was their morale and their patience. I suspect they would have given up the fight altogether were it not for the lucrative mines in the Peninsula.

This isn't about thin skin, either. Nothing I have said is out of some embittered reaction to Sup Forums shitting on anyone. I say what I say because I mean it.

How about you just shut the fuck up kike. Nobody wants to hear your stupid shit.

I don't recall anyone forcing you to be in this thread. You are free to wheel your amorphous arse into some other thread where I am sure you will contribute nothing at all.

You're a kike or some faggot with hurt feelers. "He called me a Moor!" Pussy.

why do you keep making the same threads all the time canada?

You're pretty promiscuous with who you call a Jew for someone who evidently dabbles in the Jewish science of psychoanalysis.

To stir the pot, usually. Sometimes there is valuable discussion to be had.

That's just not true.

There was a lot more going on in Iberia for a long time than there was in Gaul.

You would suggest that the factional nature of Iberian peoples played no role in Rome's inability to swiftly and easily conquer the Peninsula? And, on the reverse, you would suggest that the unity of the Gauls under a single leader played no role in Rome's ability to swiftly and easily conquer them?

I'm not sure any historian, really, would agree with that assessment.

Anyway, it's 3 AM here. See you fags tomorrow.

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I'm saying that the factional nature of Iberian resistance was not an issue, yes. Roman conquest of Iberia happened slowly and over a longer period of time for other reasons. In fact, the Romans were known for playing the Iberian tribes against each other.

Also I'd point out that the Roman conquest of Gaul only took a decade if you exclude the fact that Cisalpine Gaul was under their control far before Gaul proper (modern day middle France). In fact, when you include their territories in southern Gaul (i.e. dating the beginning of the Roman conquest of Gaul to their conquests in Cisalpine Gaul), the amount of time it took for Gaul to be completely pacified is similar to the time it took for Iberia to be subdued.

Portuguese are white dumbass. Iberian and germanic suebi tribe.

Portuguese are white dumbass.