ITT: Characers ruined by feminism

ITT: Characers ruined by feminism.

She was literally created by a feminist oddball.

Please, Sup Forums, leave.

No she wasn't.
She was literally created to be fap bait.
Then Gail Simone decided to "deconstruct" gender roles using her and that was it.

>Wonder Woman's entire history consists of the initial creator and Gail Simone
Sup Forums REALLY needs to leave

Sup Forums, please. Just go.

Wondy will never crush your head between her thighs like sparrows egg.

Which is why I will never read the Golden Age WW stories
>It's progressive because a woman saves a man!

Name one time WW was good when she was feminist. I'll wait.

No you'll never read Golden Age anything becuase you're a casual

Perez

Rucka's first run.

I may be a causal, but at least I'm not a beta.

I honestly think pretty much ever Marvel character was ruined by feminism, but I think Carol Danvers was hit the hardest by it.

No user. You'll always be a beta sack of shit. And don't ever try to defend your casual nature again.

At least her creator is getting a movie that maybe you'll watch and learn how he felt

she's like a child during perez's run

hardly feminist

This thread is just going to be a bunch of great Wonder Woman runs followed by OP going "maybe, but I don't consider those stories REALLY feminism"

He's probably rolling in his grave seeing his character ruined by feminist propaganda.

Are you following OP's lead or do you really not know? I mean she sucks now but she was another created to celebrate and shill feminism.

What

t. limp wristed beta who white knight WW

>she was another created to celebrate and shill feminism.
She was not.

She was Mar-vell's Damsel in distress, with no character trait beyond that.

You'll find this board is rife with those.

>this board
Sup Forums really did ruin this website

T. Butthurt casual who doesn't read comics and can't come up with a decent argument to save his life

I can tell.
They probably unironically enjoy Gail Simone.

>they

I said good, not pandering.

>Wow guys look at how stupid Wonder Woman is! I can't believe these liberal cucks thinks it's ok to a have a FEMALE super hero. I'm cringing so hard right now guys

Keep being contrarian user while everyone else enjoys good comics.

>good
not while its about a feminist

She's been ruined by modern feminism which isn't feminism any more.

>what ruined X
>bad writing?
>nah, feminism

Whatever you say user.

Spotted the liberal c*ck.

I bet you voted for Shillary

Got any pages of her being ruined?

that would require reading comics

stop replying to the bait thread morons

The rape that turned Red Sonja from a farm girl into the she-devil with a sword still wasn't as violating as what SJW pandering did to her.

Who wrote that run? She's in a bikini in the one that's going now.

Also, this is a WW thread, not Red Sonja.

You mean Marvel comics?

When she joined woman's lib in Denny O'Neil's run.

Isn't it canon in the comic that Sonja is the worst smelling person in her world?

...

>She was literally created to be fap bait.
Marston created Diana to spread his feminist views to readers.

It being fapbait was just a fun coincidence.

You mean when they put pants on her and feminists complained until they put her back in the swimsuit?

No one cared about her before, but look now and you can't stop thinking and talking about her.
So?

She was originally more fapbait than Empowered and that's sad.

>Who wrote that run?
Don't know, and I don't care to learn. I fell behind on Red Sonja some years back and was afraid to catch up too closely for fear of shit like this. At this point I'm hesitant to go near any major North American comic, because they're choked with people who seem intent on "deconstructing" everything just so they can jerk themselves off for being so progressive and morally enlightened.

>She's in a bikini in the one that's going now.
Well that's a step back in the right direction, but only one piece of the puzzle. Writing as bad as what's in is irredeemable, regardless of wardrobe.

>Also, this is a WW thread, not Red Sonja.
>ITT: Characers ruined by feminism.
There's more than one.

Feminism has always been shit.

Yes, even first waves. Men were only allowed to vote if they signed up for the draft. Women didn't get that responsibility.

You all seem to forget She Hulk.
They turned her from a shy girl given strength and confidence in all aspects of her life to a literal gender bent Bruce Banner.

>Marston created Diana to spread his feminist views to readers.

>It being fapbait was just a fun coincidence.
No you retard. It was just a exercise in bondage fapbait.
The feminism didn't come until afterwards.

She was both,, a feminist icon he created so girls could look up to a "strong female superhero" AND a picemouth for his sexual preference in bondage and fendom.
And polygami, cause that was also a thing.

tl;dr people in this thread need a good mistress, and also read comics for a change , fuck

I thought she'd lose her powers if she slept with anyone who didn't best her. Where did this "sexually liberated" meme come from?

...I don't get it.

>They turned her from a shy girl given strength and confidence in all aspects of her life
I'm not a fan of She-Slut, to be honest.

>No one cared about her before
Casuals. You mean casuals didn't care about her before, just like casuals didn't care about comic characters in general until Hollywood started realizing there was exploitable fodder in nerd culture, and gleefully dragged it screaming from its basement lair to be probed, drained, and mangled until every last bit of merchandising potential has been milked from its violated husk.

>but look now and you can't stop thinking and talking about her.
So?
Contrary to popular belief, not all publicity is good publicity. If you're famous for being shit, the best you can hope for is a bunch of shitheads with more money than sense taking an "ironic" liking to you decades later, a la Bubsy Bobcat.

Same thing

Daily reminder that Gail Simone, the same slag behind feminist WW, was behind this abomination.

Really gets the old neurons running, huh?

And feminism turned her from that into Marvel's best, flagship character.

Fan or not you have to admit that she at the very least had a rather unique personality in contrast to The Hulk, now thanks to modern feminism believing that women should be more masculine, they have little difference in motivation or character.

You are both, right and amazingly, hilariously wrong.
sure SHE WASN'T POPULAR WITH CASUALS and one guess who's money is that they want from movies? Oh shit! Could be casuals! And they need to make her marketable to them! IMPOSSIBLE!

And sorry, but yes, being know for being shit is better than being irrelevant and unknown to them, get a note.

>and gleefully dragged it screaming from its basement lair to be probed, drained, and mangled until every last bit of merchandising potential has been milked from its violated husk.
Yes, because that never happened before comics were adpated into film.

So good that no one gave a shit when she lost to Android 18.

I think you're missing the point of that complaint.
People who say feminism ruined comics usually say that because forcing things into a feminist approved form usually demands bad writing or the loss of it's original charm to achieve that goal.
For example Carol looking very much like a man for no apparent reason.

>Flagship
>Selling ~15k per month
Jessica Cruz didn't get any push and sell twice as much as your Poochie.

I didn't realize Goyer posted on Sup Forums

What was the apparent reason for the previous design?

Wonder Woman was designed with feminist ideals in mind by a guy who also happened to like bondage.

For a real example of a character ruined by feminist bullshit, look at Barbara Gordon.

Back when she was only a cunt.

Batgirl>>>>>>>Oracle
Oracle was a pretty ableist concept.

Since you posted Oracle are you going to sit there and say that Ostrander his a shitty writer?

How much are comics book selling this day anyway? I'm not an Sup Forums-style sales faggot so I'm unaware and I heard that it doesn't even account for online sales.
And anyway isn't her worth depending on how good her movie does? that's everything they seem to care about this days.

>Character becomes way more useful and powerful reinventing herself after getting crippled
>"This is ableist"

She may have been a cunt as Oracle but she was a well written cunt. Now...

Huh? What?

True, but it's a rather shallow angle.

It's basically saying "Woman are only useful if they're crippled."

That would only be the case if all the non cripple females in the book were utterly useless.

Like I said: ONLY a cunt.

Am I the only one here not bothered by SJW shit? Comics has been a liberal propaganda instrument for a long time now. The real reason industry is failing because they hired shitty writers and editors that can't stop attacking fans.

For example, Kamala was good SJW character (and a cute too!) until they made her gestapo of Herr Fuhrer Carl Manverse.

Wasn't that Bennett?

t. Tumblrina

Nah I agree. Robbie would technically fall under that umbrella and was cool.

He ain't wrong though. You would have had a rage induced heart attack back in the 70s

I'd be cast out from tumblr with that soft ass stance. Ironically, I find a more acceptance here in Sup Forums than any leftist site.

That man has saved the earth more times than you've changed your fucking shoes. Fuck you for asking more of him than that. Fucking selfish prick, he's on the goddamn Justice League, and is personally responsible for your survival.

>has helped save humanity as a whole numerous times
>"But what have you done for black people specifically, hm!?"
This page always befuddles me.

No, you're not. It's harmless. Anons just wouldn't be anons if they didn't bitch about something

You know, this guy shits on Hal helping out blues and oranges, but I can't help but think back to that comic with the robots.

What is a Marvel civilian doing in a DC Comic?

Showing you that the thing you complain as "recent" are not recent or new at all.

Well, yes, but it wasn't prevalent when that book came out. It wasn't something like 90% of the books.

1. Not the guy you were responding to
2. I wasn't talking about the race thing, I was just making a joke about Marvel civilians being ungrateful cunts.

He said Marvel civilian, not a Marvel hero.

Legit question: What characters have been made better by feminism? This includes heretical feminism so that I can get more answers, including the "so bad it's good"-type of improvement. Wonder Woman?

Why are there so many people into bondage? I might be able to understand being the restrainer, but having a fetish of being restrainee seems like an evolutionary liability. Unless it turns out that rape has more of a role in large-scale reproduction than I thought.
Not saying that people into this stuff are rapists or anything, and I'm not going to get all no-fun authoritarian on them, it just seems odd.

I do not mind diversity. I actually prefer diversity. I don't want inorganic and cynical diversity driven by self-righteous assholes.
I have very high standards when it comes to politics. Comics (not the strips, but actual books) can be a great medium, but the problem with being political is that most fall into the pitfalls of oversimplification, strawmanning, filibustering, ignorance, and other things. Artists tend to lack scientific knowledge, so I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out most of them are complete novices when it comes to political systems.

I use Sup Forums because I like being anonymous. I don't like having a reputation and want my posts to be viewed in a vacuum.D on't want to use Reddit because of safe-spacing and circlejerking. Don't want to use tumblr because of the social justice wannabee crap and shitty gifs. And don't get me started on how much I despise Twitter. I take posting more seriously than I should, especially considering where the hell I am, but thoughtful communication begets thoughtful minds.

I don't want to call you stupid, but that is an insanely stupid question.
They made her sexy so men would pay attention to her. Sex sells.

Your taste in female characters is crap, khan is ugly as sin.
Not to mention she's just another dumb fan girl.

Fuck user, the faggots here don't have enough self confidence or personality to actually talk unironically well about feminism knowing they will be called out for it.
Look at this idiot missing the point The joke was that if the first design is appealing to man the reason for the second was to be appealing to women, but did he get it? No, he can't even get that obvious idea in his head.

So you want me to explain BSMD when the average level of this board is bellow normal IQ? I'm not thrilled about it, IS FUCKING POWER PLAY user. is not that hard, having power over others and relenting power is fun when done in your own terms.
You know? Fun? The thing that comics are supposed to be in form and function? But to people here neither comics nor sex is fun, so fuck it if they even find something they do enjoy they will find a way to sabotage it anyway,
I don't even know what I'm talking about anymore.

>mistress
>only weakness is bondage
There are some fetishy undertones here.