What do you think people would've thought of the show had Dipper been a girl and Mabel been a boy?

What do you think people would've thought of the show had Dipper been a girl and Mabel been a boy?

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Just watch Welcome to the Wayne for that.

Assuming absolutely everything else is the same, I'd have found it cuter, and I assume a lot of other people would complain about unrealistic portrayals of female characters and SJWs and muh culture and so on and so forth.

>intelligent, inquisitve femme constantly making sacrifices for the people around her and thinking her way out of problems, has lesbian crush on older girl
>annoying little self centered asshole who's not a lick as smart as his sister

Yeah this would have triggered the shit out of a certan demographic.

They wouldn't have been able to get away Fem!Dipper the way they treat normal Dipper.

How so?

MaleMabel would be despised by EVERYONE and considered sexist for wanting to force his sister to stay away from a higher education to babysit him.

Pretty much

Wendip would be even more popular as an /ll/ ship.

>Maboy ripped apart for being an irresponsible spazz and fatshaming Gideon
>Dippity universally adored and drowning in a sea of Pacifica slashfiction a la Harry and Draco
>Hirsch lynched for that Bill possession episode because RAPE

He'd probably already have been lynched from that season 1 episode where Dippity would get the shit beaten out of her

Does Malbel still want to get with boys?

BoyMabel would be like a gay stereotype in that case.

>Maboy

Sup Forums would still have dumb shitfights about the Male Mabel months after the show ended, the sides would just switch.

he's mah boi

>"Wow, Dippity, you're really wasting this summer. I blew like 10 feet of tourist cock trough the mysterious orifice of glory in the male bathroom. And that's just today! Oh, and Wendy was looking for you: something about how Robbie is a limp-ducked pile of sticks and wanting to take you out to eat. I wonder if that's somehow connected with Robbie blowing his load up my ass at least three times a day?"

How would this episode have gone?

Either male Mabel would have been the star or Fem Dip would meet some ultra-feminine mermaids or some shit.

>scene where Dipper is holding onto the alien ship
>reverse the gender
God this liberals are going o get women hurt by making them think that they are stronger than they actually are. This is the problem with modern day feminism. And so on...

Busty cowgirls

you forgot to put quotation marks?

nah I'm totally serious user. Everyone knows grills can't fight. Sceitnitfic facts.

>stumbles on a herd of cowgirls
>they let her drink their nourishing milk
>oppai loli
OR...
>Dippity stumbles upon a coven of super-sexy succubuses
>needs to learn make-up, seduction and how to pick sexy slutty clothes to prove her femininity

Sexist because Serendippity has to take shit from everyone for not taking responsibility for the retardation of her idiot brother.

What if it Gideon being gay for Maboy and just doesn't know how to turn him down?

Women can't do fucking anything. These days men are becoming women to show them how it's done. Even women can't be women properly, it's fucking hilarious.

Long story short, everybody would hate it because of male Malebel.

They are prepubescent, retard. There's literally no difference in muscle mass. In fact girls get a spike in strength before boys overtake them.

>Maboy is a size queen and Gideon tiny prick that barely protrudes from his fat rolls just doesn't interest him
>cue the growth flashlight

Oh my fucking holy god, you took me seriously. Fuck me man, this is hilarious.

People here would go on and on about SJWs and feminazis and retarded ships here.

The most popular ships would be different. But I'm not really sure how. Billdip was the most popular, but with girl Dipper it would be even more politically incorrect, though it would still probably have a certain audience that would get even more shit because rape. I don't know how Pinecest, the second most popular ship, would be affected. It might have the same appeal and stay the same? Maybe the gender balance of Pinecest shippers would shift? Not sure about that one. Padippica and Mabill would probably be much more popular and get much more fic and art now that they're gay. Wendip /ll/ would be more popular and get more art and fic because gay now, too. Ships like Robbel and Candip would suddenly have more than three fans each for the same reason.

I actually think Sup Forums would have much less of a problem with boy Mabel just because of not projecting weird shit onto him. I don't know about tumblr. They actually like goofy dippy girl crazy male characters like Lance from Voltron so the same rules may apply.

Might actually make Maboy/Gideon a popular ship but probably not because Gideon is still fat which is why Gideon/Dipper never took off either. People might ship Maboy with Candy?

>grill
>sceitnitfic
>earnest answer

Male Mabel would be universally hated

tumblr would love Maboy if Maboy was still boy crazy though

What if he were girl crazy?

This.

Would Dipcifica just be the Little Witch Academia fanbase ported over?

>I was merely pretending.jpg
An earnest answer is more than your shitpost deserved. So be glad I even bothered.

Sup Forums, tumblr and fan-artists would groan but still push for gay shit

Tumblr would hate Weirdmageddon part 2 for being "regressive"

Fuck, you sounds fun at parties.
oh wait, I now learned that you can't understand sarcasm or a hyperbolic statements so let me put it more simple.
You're a boring entitled piece of shit that couldn't see an obviously dumb statement and had to actually get mad about it.

Sup Forums would complain that it's just another iteration of the "stupid husband / smart wife" trope.

Fem-Dipper's /ss/ dreams with male-Wendy wouldn't be treated as so delusional. Fem-Dip would not be told to give up hope like Male-Dip was. She would just be told to wait a 2 years (15 yo girl dating a 17 yo boy is normal enough).

Fem-Mabel's obsession with boys and boybands would be harder to "pull off" for Male-Mabel in a Disney show, regardless of whether they make male-Mabel straight or gay, it's just harder for TV shows to portray male sexual desire as innocent.

>Fem-Mabel

The show would be cancelled before the second season

I would love to see a row of drop-dead gorgeous women braiding each other's hair with M!Mabel and doing all other kinds of PG shenanigans. Would the band be J-Pop girls instead of a boy band?

Is it really that much like Gravity Falls?

Let's assume it's only Dipper and Mabel that switch genders.

How would Fem Dipper's crush with Wendy be handled?

Also would Maboy be in love with Brenda and Candy or just be friends.

>Would the band be J-Pop girls instead of a boy band?
yeah. i think that it would have to be J or K pop. I can't think of any other girl-groups that are popular among young boys. Mabel was really in charge of the boyband in that episode though. if you changed the genders and races, you'd get feminists complaining about the young boy bossing around brainless women, and you'd get the Asian-American advocacy groups complaining about "subservient asian gf/wife" stereotypes though.

So same as it ever was basically?

Could Maboy score with Robin? She looks pretty easy.

Also imagine just how erotic the scene of Pac preparing Dippity for the ball would look.

>How would Fem Dipper's crush with Wendy be handled?
Most very young lesbians don't quite understand their feelings. Especially if the crush is on an older girl instead of a peer; it's very easy to mistake love for admiration. I'm not aware of a case where producers have allowed a serious portrayal of a gay crush on a straight girl outside of anime. It really risks pissing off everyone. Religious people feel like LGBT stuff is being forced down their throat, and LGBT people feel like you're strengthening the homophobic stereotype about "predatory lesbians going after straight girls." If the writers were smart, they'd try to do that thing that the best Disney movies do, where they insert subtle adult-themes that kids don't understand. So if they wrote it well, to kids, it would seem like FemDip admires/worships Wendy in a platonic way; but adults (and teens etc) would see that FemDip has a crush.

Wendy is pretty masculine and cool. It could be portrayed as a crush Femdip is unsure how to deal with. Another route is to have Femdip fall for that piece of shit Robbie and have her feel bad about trying to cuck he big sis character Wendy. Or maybe she would go for one of the other boy characters from Wendy's group.

Femdip would probably be friends with Candy and Grenda, forming a mystery team. Malebel would probably have enough of an outgoing personality to become friends with Gideon and even try to set him up with Femdip, Malebel would also have a romance line seducing Pacifica and would probably hit on Tambry and Wendy.

>What do you think people would've thought of the show had Dipper been a girl and Mabel been a boy?
Dipper would become a fotm and Sup Forums's semi official daughterfu for a while, Mabel would be target of shotafags and /ss/fags hijacking the threads and getting them nuked

>has lesbian crush on older girl
I imagine they would change it for a big sister complex which Sup Forums would exaggerate into gay shipping, same shit would happen with Robbie except for the gay part

Changing their genders changes everything, would Mabel's best friends still hang out with her if she was a boy? Would they hang out with female Dipper? Would male Mabel be into super heroes or other shit targeted at boys while being too immature with the way he handles girls? How about Robbie's rivalry with Dipper?

Femdip, Candy and Gretel form a detective club.

Boy crazy Mabel —> girl crazy Malebel: his side of the room is plastered with bikini babes and K-pop girl band posters and you can use his socks to hammer in nails.

>How would Fem Dipper's crush with Wendy be handled?
Wendy would be the cool older sister Dipper always wanted and she would try to copy her because Wendy is everything she isn't (popular, cool, confident, etc), she would still hate Robbie because his relationship with Wendy would get in the way of their bounding, Sup Forums would ship Dipper with both of them for obvious reasons
>Also would Maboy be in love with Brenda and Candy or just be friends.
That is a tricky one because Dipper wouldn't be compatible with them and Mabel casually hanging with two girls like that would be weird, it would only work if they were also genderbent

But what if Malebel was a player and railed both of them causing Femdip to lose sleep from all of the moaning?

One thing is we're mostly talking about lesbian female Dipper and gay male Mabel but a show about two gay preteen twins would get such a radically different reception everywhere than Gravity Falls so it's hard to know how the perception would change. Sup Forums might have the love/hate relationship it has with Steven Universe, but here, you have both of the actual protagonists being gay and the fact that they're gay would come up nearly every episode. I feel like Sup Forums would shit on it just for that. Also would some of the shit they do to Dipper ever be considered okay with a girl?

Them I would ask you to take a cold shower before making posts like these

That's not farfetched though. As long as he's confident and outgoing, a cityboy can slay all of the poon is sight when vacationing in small towns. Dipper is obviously at least cute if not handsome in-universe if Pacifica fell for him, and Wendy was ready to give him a chance at a few points. So the dorky unpopular Grenda and Candy would soak their panties if romanced by someone with Dipper's looks and Mabel's gregarious character and lust.

>Also would some of the shit they do to Dipper ever be considered okay with a girl?
are you talking about the slapstick physical abuse? it's a bit rare, but it happens with girls sometimes. the sister character from Phineas and Ferb comes to mind.

>So if they wrote it well, to kids, it would seem like FemDip admires/worships Wendy in a platonic way; but adults (and teens etc) would see that FemDip has a crush.

I feel like at the time Gravity Falls was made that's the absolute furthest Disney would go with gay girl Dipper having a lez crush, though lately things are changing very fasst thanks to SU and even LH so if it were made a few years later lesbian Dipper having a crush on cool older girl Wendy might not be seen as a big deal anymore. There's been a giant shift lately. Gay shota Mabel might be seen as a stereotype though? Not sure.

>the slapstick physical abuse
Well there's that and the non slapstick physical stuff like the UFO wrangling leaving him beat to hell and violence in general. But I was also thinking about things like him in the loincloth in the Manotaur episode or dancing around in a towel like here. Lots of different double standards. Or his low self esteem being the butt of jokes. With a girl some of the things he goes through would be seen differently I think. Although Star Butterfly does get kind of the same things thrown at her to be fair.

Nah

>Not the poster but...
Dipper is constantly abused throughout the show and is constantly getting the stuffing beat out of him and also gets his heart broken quite often. This doesn't fly with female characters in western animation aimed at kids. Secondly having her crush on an older guy (which does happen oddly enough) would be endearing at first but creepy latter on since most people would cry pedo when an innocent girl has these feelings. Also shipping wars would be an absolute disaster if Dip was femmed.

what are Sup Forums's thoughts about wendip fusion?

Wendip was one of the least popular ships.

That's why it would be much more popular if they were both girls. The appeal of /ss/ is limited to Sup Forums but everybody loves lesbians

>everybody loves lesbians

Finally an excuse to post this

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>But everyone loves lesbians
In every shipping communities I've seen Lesbian ships are third tier. It goes:
>Gay boys
>Straight ships
>Gay girls
>Age difference straight ships
With age having little impact on the popularity of the gay pairings.

>every shipping communities

This depends wildly on the fandom, by amount of fanfic f/f pairings are I think the five or six most popular Steven Universe pairings before you hit Steven/Connie or anything else, meanwhile for anime with mostly girls like Madoka Magica or Sailor Moon most of the pairings with also be f/f, and the odd other show like I think Once Upon a Time. Meanwhile the first Avatar series was mostly straight ships. And even Harry Potter only had the one big gay ship and then tons of warring straight ships. Though all the girls in fandom might explain all the gay shipping in a lot of fandoms that are dominated by m/m ships either most of the characters are male or most of the important characters who are really significant to the plot are male with some poorly fleshed out female love interests that people are only interested in lewds of. If the protagonist is female or a lot of really important to the plot female characters are female you see more m/f and f/f. I think Adventure Time is probably also lesbian ship dominated though I'm not sure.

Let's take Gravity Falls. Mabel was sold as a co-protag but she wasn't remotely and all the problems with her characterization have been hashed out a lot here. The characters who played a role in the main plot (which was the author mystery along with Bill invading the dimension) were really only Dipper, Ford, Stan, McGucket, Bill, and Gideon who got lots of shipping except for Gideon because he is fat. All male characters. Pacifica was extremely popular even with female fans despite not being important to the plot at all and not being in the show much just for having a sliver of a redemption arc. Meanwhile people didn't not like Wendy exactly but mostly she was just the hot girl that Dipper liked and that was all that was to her which is boring. Even then the show had a lot of popular straight ships like Pinecest which was extremely popular despite Mabel being kind of a copout female character and Mabel/Pacifica as a lesbian ship. But the male characters had a lot more to work with and there were more of them that mattered.

There is an alarming lack of Robin on this thread. What you guys think of her?

The delicate and sensitive snowflakes known as MRAs?

Who Robbel here?

>Hirsch lynched
you say that like it's a bad thing. Being lynched would be great rest from the EXHAUSTING job of creating a cartoon that took such a toll on the poor little gopher-boy manlet

>What you guys think of her?

I can get behind her.

cute as heck, and a great way to have not-dating-yet adventures.
Also, count the fingers in panel 3.

nah it's more interesting if only Mabel and Dipper(or even just Dipper) get gender bent, full cast Rule 63 is both lazy, and rarely ever works well

Wendifica is superior

>Wendifica is superior
The quads have spoken.

I could get behind that behind.

More porn of Dipper if she looks like that. Less Pincest porn if Mabel looks like that.

>or even just Dipper
Let's be honest, you'd just be happier if the whole cast was female.

Women can dish it but they can't take it

eh

>So """"""""Progressive"""""""""

Dipper being waifuable would still save this show in the manbaby eyes of Sup Forums.

It would have triggered tumblr for portraying Malebel as in the right.

I'd probably think that it's preachy. "Hey, look at this shithead boy always ruining everything, and acting like a malicious retard. Look at his serious sister who tries to be as good to him as she can! Men are stupid, girls are best!!!"

Olly is a goof, not self-centered malicious retard like Mabel. Also, there is Ansi to break the mold between Olly and Saraline.

DINNER

i always thought this was the other way around, since, u know, most girls dont have dicks, while most guys i know aren't exactly fine with butstuff

Sup Forums IS delusional

Also Saraline's personality is pretty different from Dipper's.

Gravity Falls can't be worse as it is, that's like some universal constant.

How so? Do you think a mix between Ansi's and Saraline's personalities would fit Dipper's?

It doesn't happen because, for all Mabel is, she's sure of herself, has confidence and generally doesn't get insecure, unlike Dipper.