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Which Trek character suffered the most?

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Either O'Brien or Harry

>Which Trek character suffered the most?

You know who.

...

Do you need to ask?
Years of torture followed by years more torture in prison

Friendly reminder that Dukat did nothing wrong.

Absolutely based

Rate Riker's cooking

every time

Talk about a rough 20 years.

>no seasoning, no nothing, just the egg
damn savage

Tom Riker’s life pretty much sucked

What about the Riker stuck in the parallel dimension?

you mean "THE BORG ARE EVERYWHERE" Riker? yeah, he had it really bad.

Yes. That would truly be hell

JUST

Do you guys think there’s a Thomas stuck in that universe too? Is he still trapped on the planet? Is he the one that’s safe from the Borg?

name a more depressing reveal than Vina

hmm, he probably does exist there as well. I figure the Borg will eventually get to him tho if they're determined to assimilate everyone (except the Kazon).

How much time do you have?

Rather a plot twist than a reveal, but this one was pretty fucking depressing too.

Now that the dust has settled, did he do anything wrong?

What was his actual fucking problem again?

>reeee I'm angry reeee
pretty much this

O'Biren as making him suffer became a writers joke for DS9.

This is one of my favorite episodes. I just love the dialougue. He reminds me of Sauron and the rings of power. "into them he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life"

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I am lucutas of borg
I am borg

no cause tasha comes back more sexier than her rape gang days

Jesus was that episode really bad
The scene where she's acting as though she's suffocating as the planet was phase shifting was top cringe.

Armus was a bunch of bad feels the Changelings spit out and dumped on an abandoned planet.

he was the physical manifestation of an entire species' "negative emotions" (read: angery)

or it was a physical manifestation of Yar's desire to leave the show

Brap

He's a scooby doo tier villain

Well uh ZOIKS scoob!
Ya left the communicator back on the Ferris Wheel!
>ROOBY ROOO!

>Scooby isn't a space dog
missed opportunity

>the potheads of the show were the dog and the tall thin loser type

one of the few good things that came out of that decade of decadence

One of the longest running shows along with Star Trek

To the person who accused me of doing the "cite the sources of your sources to disguise plagiarism" thing with regard to Babylon 5, note that the show is literally named after Babylon. JMS was interested in ancient history, mythology, etc., and referenced those topics intentionally. It's not his fault that "The Hero's Journey" describes almost every other sci-fi work.

I guess it never crossed-over with TAS, but what an opportunity that would have been. Someone could probably do a fairly convincing fan-edit though.

I didn't accuse you of doing it, I accused writers of doing it to distance themselves from the notion that they copied recent works of fiction.

I just felt silly for not pointing out that the show is literally named after Babylon in the last thread.
In his words:
>The notion of the Vorlons and Shadows representing Order and Chaos goes back to the Babylonian creation myths, that the universe was born in the conflict between order and chaos, hence part of the reason I decided to name this show after Babylon. That's called *research*. It informs the show, but it is not the show.

What is the percentage of people killed by the stun setting on phaser?

In real life not everybody can survive getting hit by taster or stun gun.

>taster
Ah fuck, I meant to say taser.

Why do you even bring it up here? That's one of the few things that have zero in common with Star Trek. The founders were just a bunch of faggots who got bullied and became bullies themselves, literally nothing to do with the shadows, who were like a force of nature.

>In real life not everybody can survive getting hit by taster or stun gun
Not many can survive an encounter with Riker

>Oh, you must be Ensign Kim. I'm Lieutenant Nog, I'll be your new superior officer

Depends what species' phaser we're talking about. O'Brien needed immediate medical attention when fired on with a klingon phaser, Quark shrugged off the lowest stun setting of a cardassian phaser within seconds.

DS9 progression fucking irritates me.
>Cassidy Yates, caught aiding terrorists, Odo calls it a serious crime, serves 6 months in prison
>Nog, first ferengi in Starfleet, doesn't even complete the 4 year academy, immediately gets promoted without his formal education complete to lieutenant
>Worf's son Alexander was literally a year old when first introduced, looks then like a walking-talking 5 year old, looks like an adult at 9 years old in DS9
Fuck it...

Alexander's age really is a fucking hack job. Like I get they wanted to do episodes with him that required him to also be older, but come on.

What about Molly?

>heh, laughs internally forever

It's supposed to be an omelette but it's just straight egg.

And they just explained it away with "oh, well, you know what? klingons age faster, k?" and completely fucking forgot how Worf told Jadzia that he has a stick up his ass 24/7 because he headbutted a boy to death playing soccer at 14. That whole scene strongly implies that he was still a child at 14.

"Commander, tell me about your sexual organs."

Garak also spent 6 months in prison for trying to nuke the Founders' planet. He gets hauled off at the end of the episode and it never gets mentioned again.

>Which Trek character suffered the most?
How about the one who is literally in limbo fighting an omnipotent entity for the rest of existence to keep the universe in balance?

We don't talk about that movie

you and your tulpa can go then

Meh. Probably Neelix.
>one of the most hated characters in star trek
>huge war he ran off from and was called a coward
>his entire family sisters, brothers parents all brutally died
>had to run away from his home planet after that
>worked a couple horrible jobs where he nearly died over and over again including sewage and garbage man
>finds voyager, is brutally injured or tortured at times
>everyone still hates him
>never gets laid

That movie never happened. It's like your uncle on the camping trip and your anus.

I never happened. Everyone is happier, just ignoring the gaping plot holes

His intent was to nuke the planet, all they caught him doing was attempted sabotage. Much lesser crime, same sentence, and although I didn't count how many episodes have gone by without him present, it certainly didn't seem he spent 6 months incarcerated.

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then how about the guy with crazy hair who had to fight himself in the blue room from TOS... I cannot for the life of me find the episode... but he's trapped in perpetual battle as well.

or is that supposed to be sybok?

>Which Trek character suffered the most?

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>Picard
>was assimilated and suppressed by the borg
>made call to blow borg up full-well knowing that those were people up there, meaning he knowingly killed hundreds of tortured lives (whether or not you call it a mercy killing it's still a genocide)
>contains the entire knowledge of Sarek and his pains after mind melding
>lived an entire fulfilling life only to learn none of it was real and was only a simulation
>4lights
>unwillingly confessed love to dr. crusher when their minds were linked
>enduring Lwaxana Troi's advances
he's had a hard life

>he headbutted a boy to death playing soccer at 14

wait what

imagine being deanna and dealing with lwaxana your who life, and she talks to you non stop

growing up with lwaxana would be easier because you'd live your life acclimated to her personality

s05e07, when he and Jadzia travel to Risa, watch it

I have heard women bitch about so much trivial bullshit, and I'm calling bullshit on this mother

...

The Alternative Factor

it's a crazy alternate dimension version of himself IIRC, haven't watched TOS in a long time

Oh

Isn't that considered to be one of the worst episodes of DS9, and Trek in general?

forgot one

They were a match made in heaven and the entire thing was discarded within a single episode.

>Riker no get laid in several minutes
>Riker need pussy
>boi pussy will do

>check republic

Who cares? It's still Star Trek knowledge you didn't have, only because you didn't watch an episode. If you want to discuss Trek, you better watch everything to know about everything.

in general there seem to be several episodes that are "Picard falls for someone way more interesting than Beverly but it doesn't work out because Reasons"

she's not the only one, either

>Isn't that considered to be one of the worst episodes of DS9, and Trek in general?
By who, fleetporn fags?

But only 3 of them matter, Beverly, Nella and Vash.

Except she was a fling, Nella was as close to a full blown love interest as you can get. Their connection was spiritual.

What about that sentient hologram he double teamed with riker?

What the fuck was her problem?

>Except she was a fling
>returns in multiple episodes

I don't care about your notion of what constitutes as a real relationship when it's completely laid bare that Nella was the hardest to get over, because they shared something unique.

"- The Enterprise encountered a probe that had been sent from the planet before it was destroyed. It scanned me and I lost consciousness. And... In the space of 25 minutes, ... I lived a lifetime on that planet. I had a wife and children and a grandchild. And it was absolutely real to me. And when I awoke, all that I had left of that life... was the flute that I had taught myself to play.
- Why are you telling me this?
- Because I want you to understand what my music means to me. And what it means for me to be able to share it with someone.
- Thank you."

...

beneath the stains of time...

She did absolutely nothing wrong. That "cure" she got but eventually refused is the doctor's means of escape from having to deal with her differences, so it's entirely about the doctors discomfort with her condition, not about her discomfort with her own situation. That's why she eventually refused the "cure", it wasn't a "cure" for her, it was a "cure" for the narrow minded people to feel more convenient around her.

Star Trek is about accepting differences, not normalizing people to feel more comfy around them. So her character was legitimate Star Trek, everything around here wasn't.

Being handicapped in the 90s is what being trans is in the 2010s. There were an over representation of whiny wheelchair characters all over 90s television.

Was she basically fucked if, say, Dukat started attacking DS9 and there was a breach and everyone had to fuck over to escape pods in like 2 minutes?

*around her

>There were an over representation of whiny wheelchair characters all over 90s television.
If they were "over represented", name five.

>what's a site to site transport

I mean, when did they really use it when shit was on fire and exploding everywhere

No, because I'm not doing that research into shows that I never really liked for someone who doesn't remember the 90s. Basically every shitty sitcom had a handicapped guest star that was annoying.

Hey, Bashirfag is back

Believe me, they would have. Even today people who have disabilities have far more liberties than other people.

You made the statement, it's on you to prove its accuracy. I only remember 1 as in one character who was a regular on a notable TV show and was wheelchair bound, and that show was Viper. I'd call random shitty sitcoms showing one cripple guest starring hardly "over representation".